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    1G/200G host,need some advice

    hi,everyone.i'm looking for host for my flashgame site.it need 1g space and 200G or more traffic.is there some good host that less than 8 dollars/mo?
    thanks in advance

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    That's quite a low budget for such high requirements. I can't really recommend you a host because any host of actual quality does not have prices that low. If you're using 200 GB a month in bandwidth, you should atleast be able to make revenue with your website. My advice to you is:

    a) Get a larger budget
    b) Decrease the amount of space/bandwidth you require
    c) Go with a bad host and lose all of your files within a month! (sarcasm)

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    thanks,steve,i look some post here and find that there are two place.
    lunarpages $7.95/mo
    aplus.net 7.46/mo
    can anyone give me some advice of them?
    by the way,i saw the host of netfirm is so cheap.300G traffic only 4.95/mo.
    is it good?

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    Sometimes you can't always get a larger budget. :-/

    Take a look at the offers forum. If you see anything you like, report back to us with the hosts you find so you can get our opinions.

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    Well the only thing i can remember... is about so much posts i have been seeing in WHT since i am around this Board and this sentence is damn frequent...

    You get what you pay for...

    But thats true you can allways get a dedicated server with your budget, a server dedicated to down times data corruption low speed connection... (kidding)

    Well i would recomend you to get sort of a VPS for a site with so much trafic, but, i dont take you will find one (a good one) with that budget but you can allways try.

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    If the reason for your bandwidth requirement is excessive traffic, then why do you not use this traffic to your advantage and gain revenue? A very simple way of going about this would be to place google ads throughout your site.

    However, if you are simply using the resources and not delivering traffic and the small amount of traffic obtained is causing this crazy bandwidth requirement, then what would be the main objective of keeping the site live, especially if there is no revenue to be had and no budget to sustain it if it is a hobby?

    Also, it would be a good idea to think of the day when you increase your traffic to say tripple the amount you have now, then you will have a greater problem, needing to spend $100+ per month on a dedicated server, with an $8.00 budget.
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    Check out Canaca and Netfirms. Big space and damn big bandwidth. But not sure about their reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametheflash
    thanks,steve,i look some post here and find that there are two place.
    lunarpages $7.95/mo
    aplus.net 7.46/mo
    can anyone give me some advice of them?
    by the way,i saw the host of netfirm is so cheap.300G traffic only 4.95/mo.
    is it good?
    Well, I suggest you simply start by searching on this forum for feedback on those. I am sure there is plenty, both are big companies.
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    For $7.95 you can get what you want. But be prepared for major headaches down the road...

    I can get a steak dinner for $7.95, but I know it won't be good.

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    I think your budget is too low personally, take a company with decent reviews and see if they will build you a custom plan for a decent budget. As far as sites that are in your price range for what you want....steer clear of them

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    You can find host(s) that offers what you want for $8.00 per month and not have to worry about any of the things mentioned here. There is a great deal of fear mongering going on and what you need to remember is that opinions are like... you get the idea.

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    I guess you have to consider the source on opinions, most of us here are giving advice based on experience. It is VERY important to set limts on a server....yes most people will use about 10mb of space and 50mb of bandwidth but all it takes is 3 high usage people on a server to basically stop it in its tracks and put everyone elses account in jeopardy. If you are ok with that risk then $8/mo is a good deal....but if you care about what you are doing you will take responsibilty in choosing a reliable host.

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    I've used Canaca and it is a fairly good webhost considering how cheap it is.
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    It is funny how everyone keeps touting the same old crap.

    The fact of the matter is, that seldom happens. Those that use that kind of resources put their money where their mouth is and either rent, or purchase, their own servers.

    Coming to the WHT forums is like looking for WMD's. There is just nothing there...



    Quote Originally Posted by rmurray321
    I guess you have to consider the source on opinions, most of us here are giving advice based on experience. It is VERY important to set limts on a server....yes most people will use about 10mb of space and 50mb of bandwidth but all it takes is 3 high usage people on a server to basically stop it in its tracks and put everyone elses account in jeopardy. If you are ok with that risk then $8/mo is a good deal....but if you care about what you are doing you will take responsibilty in choosing a reliable host.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLDZERO
    The fact of the matter is, that seldom happens. Those that use that kind of resources put their money where their mouth is and either rent, or purchase, their own servers.

    Really, then how come we see complaints daily from people who have had their sites suspended by their host for excess resource usage?

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    Because you are paying for a set amount of resources. Use them up and you get a suspension. Don't want your site suspended? Increase your limits. It has nothing to do with overselling.

    Oh... there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth. Another reason one would have their site suspended.

    Quote Originally Posted by ResellersHQ
    Really, then how come we see complaints daily from people who have had their sites suspended by their host for excess resource usage?
    Last edited by COLDZERO; 12-11-2005 at 10:39 PM.

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    In this day and age, I don't think that budget is unrealistic.....there are plenty of good companies with good uptime and services providing such a deal.
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    That is a more realistic response Mr. Wiz

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWiz
    In this day and age, I don't think that budget is unrealistic.....there are plenty of good companies with good uptime and services providing such a deal.

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    You guys are both crazy. What part dont you understand? Most of the hosts that use these drastic overselling policies have tons of stuff in the TOS that actually prevent you from using all of the resources. The minute you try, they will find a way to get rid of you.It has everything to do with overselling, that is the only way they can make money. If you actually try to use the resources allocated, the host is going to be at a loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLDZERO
    Coming to the WHT forums is like looking for WMD's. There is just nothing there...
    Then the next logical question is: "Why are you here?"
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    You consider it drastic to keep people within the parameters of their hosting plan and agreement... I think of it as good business.

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    I think every forum needs to have honesty. Are you intimadated by my being honest?

    Quote Originally Posted by bear
    Then the next logical question is: "Why are you here?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLDZERO
    You consider it drastic to keep people within the parameters of their hosting plan and agreement... I think of it as good business.

    I call it misleading. If the client is never going to be able to use the alloted resources, because of a clause in the TOS, then they have been scammed. I am all for keeping people within the parameters of said account, I just think it is very irresponsible to offer far more than can be provided for such a small budget.

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    Intimidated? Not in the least. I was merely remarking that it is obvious you hold this forum and it's members in low regard, yet you insist on participating. Just wondering why you would insist on posting in a forum you don't seem to like much.
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    I guess that all depends on what the hosting company limits through their TOS. If it is Everything, than you are correct 100% - they are running a scam. No point in hosting a website when you can only use html...

    Many quality, trustworthy hosts limit what can be hosted and used on their servers. That is because it is their servers. I don't allow porn of any kind. Has nothing to do with resources or overselling. I just don't want anything to do with it.

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    What I do not like are the tactics that many seem to use to make a host, that offers what others can't or won't, look bad. Nothing like bad mouthing the competition. It is easier to do that than it is to work harder at marketing your business and increasing sales. I thought this was a Hosting Talk forum... not a presidential election.


    Quote Originally Posted by bear
    Intimidated? Not in the least. I was merely remarking that it is obvious you hold this forum and it's members in low regard, yet you insist on participating. Just wondering why you would insist on posting in a forum you don't seem to like much.

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    I do agree that too much flaming/insulting is going on. It seems like as soon as a host offers better service at a better price, they get badmouthed by the people who are offering less. It almost seems like some hosts are afraid of any competition that offers a deal superior to their own. Only offer an opinion if you've used the host, and then the customers will let us know who the real good hosts are!
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    System Resources

    I think the worst part of the shared hosting is that the no host company define how much system resource are allocated with an account. Every host tells you that you have that much of disk space and bandwidth but the term " system resource" is most notorious for banning the over used accounts.
    In my view the host companies should tell the users first that your account will be disabled in such n such conditions.

    Thanks

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    I agree 100%. I have not had to suspend or remove a customers account for violation of our TOS but I would be kind enough to give at least one warning.

    Quote Originally Posted by wsfeb
    I think the worst part of the shared hosting is that the no host company define how much system resource are allocated with an account. Every host tells you that you have that much of disk space and bandwidth but the term " system resource" is most notorious for banning the over used accounts.
    In my view the host companies should tell the users first that your account will be disabled in such n such conditions.

    Thanks

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    You guys are hilarious. The fact of the matter is, these people are not "flaming" these hosts, they are pointing out the obvious. If you are oblivious to these facts, then it would be highly recommended that you do a lot of research into the business you are so eagerly protecting.

    These overselling hosts are doing just that, they are overselling. It is not a matter of other hosts not being "able" to match these offers, it is a matter of these offers being unrealistic without exceptional restrictions.

    Now if you do not mind having a limited account, with limited scope, and limited reach to grow, then by all means utilize a host that advertises these specs.

    For some reason however I doubt any serious webmaster would want to be limited in this way, and these other hosts are simply pointing out that if you believe you will not be limited in this way, then you are seriously mistaken. This isn't flaming, this is pointing out the blatant truth.
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    Also, on a side-note. Overselling, when properly controlled is not a bad business practice, however in extreme circumstances it is obviously important to be very wary.
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    What I think is hilarious is how about half of those here say "nothing wrong with overselling... if it's managed," while the other half say things like "These overselling hosts are doing just that, they are overselling. It is not a matter of other hosts not being "able" to match these offers, it is a matter of these offers being unrealistic without exceptional restrictions."

    The fact of the matter is, unless you are a customer of one of these hosts that are overselling and have first hand knowledge that it is limiting your growth, your not offering an opinion but are in fact "flaming" that host.

    "Hey! Don't use that host... they are overselling. That's bad. Use my host instead... I'm better!"

    I don't know of any other place on the Internet where you can read more about overselling than here. It's not the big problem that it is made out to be here.

    Quote Originally Posted by goodydomains
    You guys are hilarious. The fact of the matter is, these people are not "flaming" these hosts, they are pointing out the obvious. If you are oblivious to these facts, then it would be highly recommended that you do a lot of research into the business you are so eagerly protecting.

    These overselling hosts are doing just that, they are overselling. It is not a matter of other hosts not being "able" to match these offers, it is a matter of these offers being unrealistic without exceptional restrictions.

    Now if you do not mind having a limited account, with limited scope, and limited reach to grow, then by all means utilize a host that advertises these specs.

    For some reason however I doubt any serious webmaster would want to be limited in this way, and these other hosts are simply pointing out that if you believe you will not be limited in this way, then you are seriously mistaken. This isn't flaming, this is pointing out the blatant truth.

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    It may not seem like a large issue because 95% of the hosts that utilize this method, irresponsibly, fall off the map in about 3 months, never to be heard of again.

    The reason this forum makes it an issue is because every single day there are multiple complaints concerning this issue, with customers slamming hosts for poor services. When on inspection we find that in fact they should have never been with that host in the first place, because it was obvious, due to their excessive and uncontrolled overselling, that they were going to fail them sooner or later.

    This is basically common sense to anyone in the business, and the reason people come here is to get good information from people who are in the business...and this is what you call good information....stay away from excessive oversellers.

    Why you have taken issue with this obvious fact is very confusing.
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    To be honest, as far those suggesting and implying the unproven overselling theory, you can not be all that good at what you do. Have not heard of any of your hosting sites during the last 3 years I have been in the hosting business.

    Quote Originally Posted by goodydomains
    It may not seem like a large issue because 95% of the hosts that utilize this method, irresponsibly, fall off the map in about 3 months, never to be heard of again.

    The reason this forum makes it an issue is because every single day there are multiple complaints concerning this issue, with customers slamming hosts for poor services. When on inspection we find that in fact they should have never been with that host in the first place, because it was obvious, due to their excessive and uncontrolled overselling, that they were going to fail them sooner or later.

    This is basically common sense to anyone in the business, and the reason people come here is to get good information from people who are in the business...and this is what you call good information....stay away from excessive oversellers.

    Why you have taken issue with this obvious fact is very confusing.

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    "unproven overselling theory" lol, I have nothing left to say.
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    Dude, find the mathimatics. Find a dedicated server with good specs and divide them with what you want. Then multiply that number by the cost you want. Then you'll see how much of a small difference there is from the total cost of the server, if any, that shows enough for someone to live on or even be willing to give support on.

    If you want unguarenteed resource quota and sucky performance, go with the hosts that offer those types of plans. If you would like to up your budget abit, SurpassHosting.com offers great prices for their plans and even greater support. I have been hosted with them for almost a year and am currently on one of their OC5 plan. I highly recommend them , support response is around 2 hours or less apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cedced
    I wouldnt....they have some attractive plans but if you need any support whatsoever then i would move along. I used a dedicated server with them Annd it always took atleast 2 days to get a response and usually it was an incompetent one

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    Our support times are much lower than that... average 16 minutes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Otikeu
    ...If you would like to up your budget abit, SurpassHosting.com offers great prices for their plans and even greater support. I have been hosted with them for almost a year and am currently on one of their OC5 plan. I highly recommend them , support response is around 2 hours or less apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodydomains
    Also, on a side-note. Overselling, when properly controlled is not a bad business practice, however in extreme circumstances it is obviously important to be very wary.
    Agreed... "overselling" is used by many here as the ultimate and final curse. In truth, most every host is overselling in some way or another. If used sensibly, it works. But if used irresponsibly and to extremes, it backfires.
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