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12-10-2005, 11:51 PM #26Newbie
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I learned HTML with notpad but now I use Deamweaver.
When I need to edit code by hand I can normally do it with out a problem.Last edited by Sops; 12-10-2005 at 11:55 PM.
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12-11-2005, 12:25 PM #27Web Hosting Guru
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Originally Posted by bear
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12-11-2005, 02:14 PM #28Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by Draco
It's still not nearly as good as hand coding, but it's better than the paid crap.Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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12-11-2005, 02:54 PM #29WHT Addict
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d) Code to w3C standards with Dreamweaver to save hours of tedious work, and laugh at those stuck with notepad.
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12-11-2005, 06:41 PM #30Web Hosting Guru
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Originally Posted by Graphicism
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12-11-2005, 06:46 PM #31Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Draco
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12-11-2005, 11:39 PM #32WHT Addict
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Originally Posted by Draco
I mean lets be serious, why go through the time of setting up a document in notepad and setting out all the divs or tables when DW can do it for you, in the exact markup? Don't get me wrong I need to edit and know the code I am working with, but it looks sexier in DW than it does in notepad.
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12-11-2005, 11:50 PM #33Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by Graphicism
Still, I'm so used to Homesite, I still have to say I prefer it. It's a lot lighter than DW in CPU and RAM load, and it's the architecture on which DW's code view was built anyway. But there are some pretty darned good freeware text editors that come reasonably close...Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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12-12-2005, 01:14 AM #34WHT Addict
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Yeah I was talking about the page view, however I use the WYSIWYG for setting up the document, placing css etc. If you design to the new standards, that being XHTML, then 90% of the time you are spent playing with CSS, which is of course text, when it comes to applying the css to your design it helps to see it on screen.
I wouldn't consider myself a coder, more so a designer, however I design in code... if that makes any sense.
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12-12-2005, 01:39 AM #35Retired Moderator
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Ahh, for good visual CSS, I suggest TopStyle, which works seamlessly with Homesite (and possibly with DW?).
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12-12-2005, 03:05 AM #36WHT Addict
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I'm not familiar with Homesite, I've never strained away from DW, as far as I am aware DW can do all that TopStyle promises... I mean I can do XHTML Strict 1.1 with it for instance, and test it through DW for all browsers etc, it also shows me how it will look. Other nice things are it fills in the rest of the CSS string for you, for instance if you are entering a border, simply type 'bor' and it asks for a size, style and color... Homesite might do this, not sure.
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12-12-2005, 03:47 AM #37Web Hosting Guru
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Originally Posted by Alex Fernandez
Originally Posted by Graphicism
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12-12-2005, 03:54 AM #38Web Hosting Guru
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I'm an old school designer, but I do validate pages now.. and I use dreamweaver but not because I can get help.. it just presents it visually to me better.
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12-12-2005, 04:08 AM #39Web Hosting Master
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Originally Posted by Graphicism
I use to use Homesite quite a bit before Macromedia bought them out. Used it till about '02 when I tried Textpad. Been using it since. I acutally find working in DW irritating even in code view.
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12-12-2005, 08:25 AM #40Retired Moderator
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Originally Posted by Graphicism
Topstyle is a great tool for developers really getting to learn their CSS. But nowadays, I just find it to be a whole lot faster to type out what I want and not have menus open up on me while I'm typing. So, I'm strictly using Homesite. My version is 5.0, which is a few years old now. It might very well be the functionality about which you're talking in DW is part of Homesite too now. It wouldn't surprise me, since nearly everything inside DW code view origininated in Homesite anyway.Studio1337___̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.__Web Design
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12-14-2005, 06:07 AM #41Junior Guru Wannabe
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I'm using Zend. It is meant for PHP (which I mainly use), but I use it for HTML as well. I like the pure text editing combined with some colors and so.
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12-14-2005, 12:34 PM #42New Member
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A and C. I make valid XHTML&CSS code with the editor like notepad (but more better) always.
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12-15-2005, 12:30 AM #43Web Hosting Master
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When I started out my computer was too crappy to run any WYSIWYG programs, so I learned using notepad, and I still use notepad even today.
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12-15-2005, 03:56 AM #44Junior Guru
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I use BBEdit, and it's the best editor I've found. I've tried all the big WYSIWYG editors, back when they used to include the "site made with XX". (Do they still do that?).
Personally I think that if you can't, or don't, hand code with a plain text editor, you're lazy. You may claim that it just "saves time", but if your WYSIWYG editor makes mistakes, which it will, how much time are you saving? Plus, customers aren't opening client's sites in DW design view, they're opening it in a web browser, so you should be previewing it in a web browserCoding my way to oblivion.
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12-15-2005, 07:58 PM #45Web Hosting Evangelist
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I like to take control over my code. Old school and notepad is the best, but now I like Homesite html editor.
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12-15-2005, 09:08 PM #46Junior Guru Wannabe
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Me = HTML Super God.
I used notepad for a long time, but I love HomeSite now because of code highlighting and keyboard shortcuts.
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12-16-2005, 01:43 AM #47Aspiring Evangelist
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a little bit of everything ....started out as a hand coder (notepad) until I figured out Dreamweaver is much faster and easier