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  1. #1
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    Clients for Sale Scam

    Clients for Sale Scam

    There is a person going around with the IP 212.122.238.71 with multiple email accounts claiming he has hosting clients for sale. This person gave me the run around when I asked him simple questions and was very pushy for me to send them money. Of course it sounded fishy especialy we he claimed to have Hsphere Cp and could not provide me with the Control Panel URL. Then he said they moved the clients to a server that doesn’t support Hsphere I really got suspicious.

    I also got another hosting clients for sale offer with a different email and another hosting company and what do you know it was sent from the same IP.

    I did not send them any money but I don’t think I would get any clients if I did, and considering both sites were in Arabic, and the person has an IP from EGYPT I dont think I would want to test my luck, because there is no way of getting my money back.

    Emails and hosts used.
    [email protected] host: www.securityway.net supposedly be Hsphere.
    [email protected] Host: www.ng4host.net

    X-Originating-Ip: [212.122.238.71] for both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drift2
    Clients for Sale Scam

    There is a person going around with the IP 212.122.238.71 with multiple email accounts claiming he has hosting clients for sale. This person gave me the run around when I asked him simple questions and was very pushy for me to send them money. Of course it sounded fishy especialy we he claimed to have Hsphere Cp and could not provide me with the Control Panel URL. Then he said they moved the clients to a server that doesn’t support Hsphere I really got suspicious.

    I also got another hosting clients for sale offer with a different email and another hosting company and what do you know it was sent from the same IP.

    I did not send them any money but I don’t think I would get any clients if I did, and considering both sites were in Arabic, and the person has an IP from EGYPT I dont think I would want to test my luck, because there is no way of getting my money back.

    Emails and hosts used.
    [email protected] host: www.securityway.net supposedly be Hsphere.
    [email protected] Host: www.ng4host.net

    X-Originating-Ip: [212.122.238.71] for both.
    Thanks for the warning

    I was about to email these people, as I have an establishing hosting company with Hsphere CPanel and looking to increase my customer base

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    Hey,

    I think I got emails from the same person!

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    "packstreetboys" claimed to have 54 clients, making $530/month. I made a bid of $1000. When I couldn't send that, he said $200 was fine. He said eh could only recieve payment via western union, but we wanted to pay him with stormpay, since this was the system he used for his clients. He didnt have any WHM proof, any CE proof, or any stormpay proof. We opted out of doing business with him.

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    The funny thing the host that he says uses Stormpay does not even use that it uses 2Checkout in all the signup forms.
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    Thread moved.

    Take a look also at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=416815
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    This same guy messaged me today, now hes using the address "[email protected]"

    I saw this post so I tried to develop a risk free deal in which I would pay him nothing upfront and just monthly payments until he received the full amount. He suggested that I give a deposit of $400.00 upfront, which I was fine to do, but he could not deliver any proof of reveune (he said he had 246 clients at $6740 USD monthly reveune). As the original poster said, he became very pushy for me to send him any money possible. I even went as far as to do a whois on the domain and it didn't match his information at all.

    When I showed him this post, he said that it was someone else trying to sell his clients. If he confronts you and says the same thing, don't believe it.
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    Thanks for the update, I hate scum like this guy.

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    Don't even consider buying clients without a written and signed contract.

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    Thanks for the info drift2.

    As a matter of interest, what do you guys think if screenshots could be classed as proof? (screenshots of Paypal, Modernbill, WHM and some SSH pages?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by numaria
    Thanks for the info drift2.

    As a matter of interest, what do you guys think if screenshots could be classed as proof? (screenshots of Paypal, Modernbill, WHM and some SSH pages?)

    Give me some time with photoshop and I can send you any proof you want
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    Quote Originally Posted by numaria
    Thanks for the info drift2.

    As a matter of interest, what do you guys think if screenshots could be classed as proof? (screenshots of Paypal, Modernbill, WHM and some SSH pages?)
    Proof in what context? Legal proof? Proof to the buyers/sellers of the merchandise? The price of tea in china?

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    Proof that one wouldn't give money to a scammer basically. Of course, one can be creative in photoshop... but you know what I mean...
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    Give me some time with photoshop and I can send you any proof you want
    I hear that one, in this day and age there are enough people out there with decent photoshop abilities (decent enough to create images to defraud someone that is....).

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    IMO, never buy a hosting business unless you have prior dealings with that host. Don't be sending large chunks of cash to someone you're not familiar with, with no more than a few screenshots as proof the business really exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Bob
    IMO, never buy a hosting business unless you have prior dealings with that host. Don't be sending large chunks of cash to someone you're not familiar with, with no more than a few screenshots as proof the business really exists.
    Agreed, I've been ripped off a few times trying to buy clients
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    it is such a shame, you cant even run an honest business without someone trying to scam you, i think the best bet when buying another host is escrow.com the fees they charge are a little high but well worth the protection

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    I do feel that people who are purporting to be running serious businesses using a hotmail email address are somewhat suspicious.
    Shouldnt they have proper domain email addys at least?

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    The best proof with this sort of transaction is giving the potential buyer some sort of limited access to your financial accounts, via 2checkout.com, paypal, etc.

    Paypal makes this very easy for business accounts, as they permit multi-user access and allows the administrator to narrow usage to only certain features, for example, they can only see your transaction history, but cannot accept payments, withdrawl money, change the profile, etc. Very handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jewelwg
    I do feel that people who are purporting to be running serious businesses using a hotmail email address are somewhat suspicious.
    Shouldnt they have proper domain email addys at least?
    Where or in what form? I've seen several IT companies (big ones) reps use gmail.com addresses for their corporate correspondence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALL Acquisitions
    The best proof with this sort of transaction is giving the potential buyer some sort of limited access to your financial accounts, via 2checkout.com, paypal, etc.

    Paypal makes this very easy for business accounts, as they permit multi-user access and allows the administrator to narrow usage to only certain features, for example, they can only see your transaction history, but cannot accept payments, withdrawl money, change the profile, etc. Very handy.
    Yes, but that implies a certain level of trust - a trust that not all people may have.

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    Do not send money to any person solicitating through the internet if you have no financial history of the business. All legitimate companies will not demand you send them up-front cash as they have not done anything for you...so why trust them? The best way to evaluate a company is by speaking with their current and former clients and asking for personal experiences. Too many people running scams on the internet because of the high-risk nature of online activity.

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    Couldn't have said it better myself

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    lol seems to me like the nigerian royalty conartist moved to egypt :-P

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