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    Why I Like H-Shere

    I like H-sphere because of all the documentation, and I also like the fact that you can get around the disk usage quota if you make your own CMS and put it on your hosts h-sphere server running on FreeBSD. I don't want to delve into further details of the server set up but I will expand on how I can and have bypassed the quota. Depending on how you authenticate users for your CMS you will be able to do this. I made a simple CMS with PHP/MySQL and my authentication uses only PHP/MySQL and session variables not HTTP authentication which means that any file that is uploaded via this CMS to the server will have the user 'http' attached to it and not the username of your account on the server. This effectivly gets around the disk usage quota on h-sphere which calculates the usage by tallying up all the files on the server associated to the user. They could easily fix this if the usage went by the usergroup ownership of files and not just the user, but until then I know not of what people call space limitations. I hope I am not the only one who finds this feature advantagous!

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    Greetings:

    See http://forum.psoft.net/showthread.ph...ighlight=chown for the fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalMastermind
    They could easily fix this if the usage went by the usergroup ownership of files and not just the user, but until then I know not of what people call space limitations. I hope I am not the only one who finds this feature advantagous!
    it will be fixed by your host - I hope they have an extremely punitive overage rate, and that you're over by a LOT of space...

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    I guess I was not aware that the issue had already been known by positive I had been looking for weeks for documentation on this, I only created this post to let everyone know that there is a loophole for the disk quota usage. And no nod32usa I am not over my alotted disk space right now anyway so your hopes will go unfufilled. When I realized this occurance I did notify my hosting provider right away actually and they have yet to have the issue resolved, I will forward to them the link to the positive soft forum thread that provides the supposed fix. It still would be easier in my opionion if the calculation was based on group ownership of files becasue all my files with httpd as a user still have my username as the usergroup. I did not mean in my original post to sound overly arrogant, I just thought I had stumbled onto something others have yet to see.

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    It's not HSphere specific, happens with CPanel also unless you do a similar "fix".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalMastermind
    I guess I was not aware that the issue had already been known by positive I had been looking for weeks for documentation on this, I only created this post to let everyone know that there is a loophole for the disk quota usage. And no nod32usa I am not over my alotted disk space right now anyway so your hopes will go unfufilled. When I realized this occurance I did notify my hosting provider right away actually and they have yet to have the issue resolved, I will forward to them the link to the positive soft forum thread that provides the supposed fix. It still would be easier in my opionion if the calculation was based on group ownership of files becasue all my files with httpd as a user still have my username as the usergroup. I did not mean in my original post to sound overly arrogant, I just thought I had stumbled onto something others have yet to see.
    Your host *IS* aware - the issue and it's fix have been discussed in the "hsphere customers" forum - your host is a member and poster there, and even posted the script used to fix the problem back to the forum - so they are aware of the issue, and how to fix it... which doesn't mean they have implemented the fix.

    The "fix" is a script provided by Peter at DynamicNet which is setup to be run periodically by cron - while this doesn't prevent files being uploaded by users as the httpd user, it does "correct" the ownership of them so tht they can be counted towards the quota after the script is run.

    FWIW, we have this script running on our web servers, so while file may be owned by the httpd user, they become part of the quota of the site owner whenever the script is run (several times a day in our case).

    As for your post - it did sound a little like "here's how to get one over on your host" - which I don't think is the purpose of this forum... so perhaps it's tone was off - but who knows.. it's hard to read tone in forum posts...

    regards

    Greg

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