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11-11-2005, 08:38 AM #1Web Hosting Master
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Don't turn to God..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4427144.stm
Evangelist says voters reject God
A US Christian evangelist has told a Pennsylvania town not to ask for God's help if disaster strikes after it voted against teaching intelligent design.
ID says life is too complex to have developed through evolution and an unseen power must have had a hand.
On Tuesday, Dover voters ousted the local school board, which had tried to introduce the concept as an alternative to the theory of evolution.
Pat Robertson told his TV show that the town had turned its back on God.
"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Mr Robertson said on The 700 Club.<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.0
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11-11-2005, 08:47 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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A modern day Jonathan Edwards
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11-11-2005, 10:09 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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He’s a pretty disgusting guy; this isn’t surprising.
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11-11-2005, 10:12 AM #4Eternal Member
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"I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected Him from your city," Mr Robertson said on The 700 Club.
Sadly, his viewers, for the most part, accept his words unchallenged.
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That's the problem with religious zealots, everything is so black and white to them, even though the world isn't.
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11-11-2005, 10:19 AM #6Disabled
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Nothing new from this hypocrite. He keeps making outrageous statements and people keep tuning in to his show and giving him money.
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11-11-2005, 11:10 AM #7Disabled
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I guess that guy has lost some beloved one in recent natural disaster like T-sunami, earthquake or something.
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11-11-2005, 11:20 AM #8Nothing to see move along.
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Originally Posted by derek.bodner
Eh! whats our olympic triple jump champion got to do with it ..0
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11-11-2005, 11:27 AM #9Web Hosting Master
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Hahaha.
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11-11-2005, 12:00 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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11-11-2005, 12:46 PM #11ex-Aussie
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Religious fundamentalists scare the hell out of me, regardless of which flavor they are. I tend to notice they're generally the last ones to practise what they preach.
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Originally Posted by trau
But in revelation, it says:
Revelation 3:15 - 15I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
Originally Posted by akashik
In conclusion, I think this guy was talking out of anger rather than a prophetic voice of God - however who knows? All we can do is compare it to the word of God and see if it aligns with what God says. (since he doesnt contradict himself)Last edited by VolkNet; 11-11-2005 at 04:47 PM.
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11-11-2005, 04:52 PM #13Hail Eris !
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Originally Posted by trau0
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11-11-2005, 05:00 PM #14Disabled
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Originally Posted by sasha
I don't know where you came up with this nonsense.
The fact is many religions are very tolerant of other religions and beliefs.
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11-11-2005, 05:07 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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blue27,
Sash is not being sympathetic
Nonetheless Pat Robertson needs to actually read what he's preaching rather than making up his own trash.
Er, scratch that: I'd prefer if he didn't.0
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Pat Robertson is an idiot. 'Nuff said.
Having said that, I agree with sasha that true Christianity is on or off - there really is not an inbetween.Daniel B., CEO - Bezoka.com and Ungigs.com
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11-11-2005, 05:14 PM #17Disabled
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Originally Posted by David
Sash is still making certain generalizations toward religion that are false regardless of whether you are a believer or not.
I am certainly not a believer but I do have respect for the philosophies of many religions and the fundamentals that they teach.0
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11-11-2005, 05:18 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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blue, if you are not a believer, I certainly don't believe you have a right to dicate policies of religion.
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11-11-2005, 05:22 PM #19Disabled
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Originally Posted by mynameweb
If you can point out anywhere that I am attempting to "dictate policies" of religion then please do. If not, then I don't see any logic in your post at all.
Oh wait, you are still sulking over previous posts.0
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Originally Posted by blue17Daniel B., CEO - Bezoka.com and Ungigs.com
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11-11-2005, 06:42 PM #21
Let's see if we can continue this discussion staying on-topic and respectful of other people's opinions, without any accusations or name calling.
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11-11-2005, 07:01 PM #22Web Hosting Master
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How is anything Pat Robertson spews suprising?
The man has been on live television praying for people to die. He has called for the assassination of foreign leaders. Now he is telling a town not to turn to god. In the list of things he has said this is rather minor.0
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11-11-2005, 08:39 PM #23Hail Eris !
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Originally Posted by blue27
About Christianity, nowhere in the Bible (the book which cannot be changed or updated with current politics) does it say that pagans and Christians will share Heavenly Kingdom. The most important event in Christianity, that every TRUE Christian is looking forward to, is Second Coming. The time when pagans will burn in fires and die painful deaths. I see no tolerance there. Religion by its nature exist on the fact that "my" god is greater then "yours". It is all about NOT tolerating others (unless they are willing to join you in not tolerating others).0
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11-11-2005, 09:01 PM #24Retired Moderator
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Coming from a multi religon and multi racial country, I feel that it is not just about tolerating others' religions, but to learn and understand their beliefs, respect them for what they are. The least you can do here is make sure your postings are within the tolerable limits of the forums, don't make the thread turn ugly.
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11-11-2005, 09:18 PM #25Originally Posted by boonchuan
Religion and other controversial topics sometimes get watered down to try to please everyone, and there isn't much substance left afterwards. This may be what some people in this thread are referring to. However, it is very possible to maintain your own beliefs without watering them down and to respect other people and their beliefs. You don't need to agree with their beliefs to show that respect.
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