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[tomed]

I came across this today - officelive .com

I'd be interested to hear what the guys in the hosting business think of this...

"Microsoft Office Live will provide your company with its own domain name, Web site, and e-mail accounts for free."

"A professional Web site, expertly hosted by Microsoft "

By the looks of things, they will be charging for hosting....

Interesting eh?

Tom

[Dormouse]

Thanks.

Had a look at the website. I must say that it looks as if it could be attractive to a lot of small businesses if it does work as a secure online network with database and 'customer, project, and document management tools'.

[tomed]

Would you be concerned about their hosting arrangements? Or do you reckon they have learned from their past mistakes?

Tom

[Dormouse]

Originally Posted by tomed

Would you be concerned about their hosting arrangements? Or do you reckon they have learned from their past mistakes?

Tom

I'm concerned about everyone's hosting arrangements.

I would certainly not use it personally until a good bit of time and criticism had passed. MS frequntly have to do things a few times to get it right as we all know.

I still think it could be very, very successful.

[Siropel]

It will be succesfull, the Microsoft brand sells, but don't forget that google gave some money for open office ...I feel something coming on ...

[The Stealthy One]

Yes, the computing world is moving to web-based apps. Personally, Microsoft's move does not scare me, as we are a low-cost host and they will be operating at the higher end, I'm sure. To those higher-end hosts out there, I don't think they'll be hurt either. Stay true to your core competencies!

Although Google says the rumors that they are putting OpenOffice online are not true, I think that they are indeed true. If you think about it, once Google tries to compete on the desktop, they will lose to Microsoft and other entrenched players - I think Google realizes this. It will be interesting to see what becomes of this OpenOffice play.

[Dormouse]

Originally Posted by mynameweb

Yes, the computing world is moving to web-based apps. Personally, Microsoft's move does not scare me, as we are a low-cost host and they will be operating at the higher end, I'm sure. To those higher-end hosts out there, I don't think they'll be hurt either. Stay true to your core competencies!

They'll be selling on added value, their name and probably simplicity of use. Any website design is likely to be through templates. Initially, their market will be small businesses who don't understand or want to understand the technical stuff AND all those who have had their fingers burnt with dodgy hosts.

I don't think the plan will work if it is just Office on line, but it does seem to be much more than that. If I were a host in this market I'd be very worried. Even if I were doing well with my current customers, I'd expect the number of new customers to slow significantly. And I would expect to lose current customers gradually if I couldn't match the added features from MS.

[The Stealthy One]

Just like you lose customers to 1and1 and GoDaddy, right?

[Dormouse]

Originally Posted by mynameweb

Just like you lose customers to 1and1 and GoDaddy, right?

How many people have heard of 1and1 & GoDaddy?
How much added value do 1and1 & GoDaddy offer?
How much can they afford to spend on advertising?
Do they sell software that nearly everyone uses to which they can add links & advertising for the online version?
Can they get all computer sellers to add adverts & links to each computer sold.
Hosting is a small & immature industry & the big boys in it aren't big enough to be pygmies next to MS.

MS have to get it right to make it work, but if they do they don't really have any significant competition. The only way for small hosts to go in this market will be service, design & settingup & tweaking & personalising websites etc for their customers - or to move to another part of the market (while it lasts). The bigger hosts, selling to bigger businesses are probably OK, so are those who sell web commerce packages (at least at the beginning).

[The Stealthy One]

Fear breeds failure. Don't let Microsoft intimidate you. You are grossly over-estimating the impact that MS Live! will have. Remember that this is not 1996 anymore - things have changed, and Microsoft no longer has the power to crush industries. I would be more worried about Google's entrance into the hosting field, and even then I don't think there's too much to worry about.

[Siropel]

I don't want "Hosting with a blue screen".
I don't think someone here is intimidated by Microsoft going hosting.
This will only lead to more people coming here asking "Where can I switch from Microsoft?"

/me loads the penguin gun

[The Stealthy One]

Originally Posted by Siropel

/me loads the penguin gun

ROFLOL HYSTERICALLY!!!! That's a good one!

[Dormouse]

I think that this is nothing to do with MS intimidation, though we all know how good they can be at grinding their way to market domination once they get a good start.

The issue is about the potential of the package they might (we can't be sure yet) offer. I don't think anyone else is positioned to be able to make that type of offer - either not big enough, not well known enough or not having the current market to use as a springboard. The hosting market is very fragmented and immature (in the market sense, rather than hosters) and is ripe for something to change that will bring about consolidation. This could be it; it all depends on the quality of what they do & how much added value the target market perceives in it. If it does work very few companies will be able to compete in that market segment and I cannot see any current hosting company doing so. The only possible option I could see would be Google, using their current clusters & backbone & expanding from their gmail base; I think they would need MS to stutter a bit though to give them the time to develop it. OpenOffice would need a lot of development and extra features to help them much.

Of course, no self-respecting geek would have anything to do with MS, but that's not the market they would look for.

It is always possible that MS would want to develop their online software without being a host, in which case everyone would be OK.

[Siropel]

Originally Posted by Dormouse

Of course, no self-respecting geek would have anything to do with MS, but that's not the market they would look for.

Microsoft will not fall now, but considering all our kids are or will be geeks, they will fall eventualy...

[The Stealthy One]

I still say that all of you are worrying too much. Go run your companies! Worrying will certainly not get you anywhere!