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    Hi, I'm working on a php script that requires php5.1, mysql, and a server with quite alot of ram (at least over a gig). I'd also need a host who would let it run without giving me problems. I'm sure it doesn't present a problem on a stress-tested server, but it might bring a weak server to its knees mostly because Apache is a memory hog. Any host suggestions? Price isn't an issue for me, but it must be monthly. Thanks.

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    I'd also need a host who would let it run without giving me problems.
    If you have high server resources needs VPSs and dedicated servers are the safe way. If your script actually uses 1GB of memory, IMO dedicated is the choice. I hope that's what you're looking for, as opposed to shared hosting...

    Seing how you want php 5.1, this can make your search harder (if you wnat shared hosting). A VPS or dedicated allows you to install any software you need (php5 in this instance), so again an advantage.

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    Hi, the script wouldn't cause apache to take 1gb ram unless the admin has a default installation. My request for more ram is more a case of... the more ram the less chance the script becomes a bottleneck for the server. A host with 512 mb ram would definately feel it with my script running alongside other accounts. Yes, I know php 5.1 makes my search much harder, but I figured out too late that some of my code required it.

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    About VPS/Dedicated, aside from a higher average price than shared... it requires me to know how to optimize apache which is beyond me .

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    On shared environment, you need to be careful, cause if your script takes lot of system resources, the host can suspend your account. They cannot give you the whole server, or a half at some dollars. If your script really takes lot of memory, yes, you should take a look at dedicated server, not a shared account. If you are not familiar with server management, you can hire someone do it for you

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    It wouldn't take over that much resources as long as Apache was modded to handle extensive scripts. I doubt it'd take more than 100mb ram while in constant use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyT
    About VPS/Dedicated, aside from a higher average price than shared... it requires me to know how to optimize apache which is beyond me .
    Then hire someone who can do it for you. You did say money isn't an issue right?

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    In this case, dedicated is just about the only way to go, IMO.
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    Money isn't an issue for shared, I'm not paying $100 or more for a dedicated :p.

    Am I being completely ignored though? You guys keep repeating yourselves or is it that hosts all use default apache installations so I'm out of luck?

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    PHP 5.1 is still just a Release Candidate. You may have better luck finding hosts running it once it becomes a finalized release, as even if a host does already support a PHP5 branch, they're not likely to upgrade to 5.1 until it is distributed as stable.

    That being said, you may be able to find a smaller host who would work with you, but then you run the possible problem of server resources (as you mentioned are likely needed) as a smaller host many not have bulky enough hardware to support your needs on a shared platform.

    Also, you can get managed VPS accounts, though again, finding a managed provider who knows enough about the PHP5 branch to help you could be difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyT
    Money isn't an issue for shared, I'm not paying $100 or more for a dedicated :p.

    Am I being completely ignored though? You guys keep repeating yourselves or is it that hosts all use default apache installations so I'm out of luck?
    No, you're not being ignored. You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyT
    I'd also need a host who would let it run without giving me problems.
    No shared host is going to let you use a gig of RAM. That's why everyone is recommending a dedicated server. Like it or not, that's about the only way to go.
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    You would be better off purchasing a VPS, and upgrading the PHP on it to PHP5. No shared hosting company will let you run a script which will consume up to 1GB of the server ram.

    Check in the VPS offers section of the forums, best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyT
    Hi, I'm working on a php script that requires php5.1, mysql, and a server with quite alot of ram (at least over a gig). I'd also need a host who would let it run without giving me problems. I'm sure it doesn't present a problem on a stress-tested server, but it might bring a weak server to its knees mostly because Apache is a memory hog. Any host suggestions? Price isn't an issue for me, but it must be monthly. Thanks.
    JefferyT,

    Wow, what are you doing that requires 1 GB of RAM? Have you thought about optimizing or taking some of that function offline? (Don't know if its possible, but its a thought.)

    Typically for scripts that need that much memory you're going to want a Dedicated server. Most shared hosts aren't going to allow a $10 a month account to crush a whole server with a memory-hogging script like that. Even a high power shared server only has 4 GB of RAM. If you get 4 simultaneous hits on that script - it would consume all the system memory!

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    yes, I AM being ignored... I just said 1gb ram to be safe... one of my replies said, "I doubt it'd take more than 100mb ram while in constant use". but 100mb is alot for someone with 256mb ram or 512

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyT
    ...100mb is alot for someone with 256mb ram or 512
    EAXCTLY!!! That's alot even for a server with 1G of RAM. I can tell you for a fact that if you were using our shared hosting services and using 'just' 100 MB of RAM, you would be terminated. That is just too high of a server load to maintain on a shared hosting server. Therefore, a dedicated server is your best bet.

    If you don't like our answers, go somewhere else and ask your question. But please quit whining that we're ignoring you - we are all honestly trying to help you out, whether you realize it or not.
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