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[smash]

I would like to offer JSP and Java Servlets to customers. It would be a special package especially for people who needs JSP/Servlets. The problem is that I am very familiar with PHP, mySQL and these kind of tools, and I know they can easily be adapted for a shared hosting environment, but I don't have a clue about java tools. I am ready to dedicate servers only for JSP and servlets...

Is anybody offering such tools? What are the problems related to them in a shared hosting environment? I think the tomcat configuration file must be modified for each servlets, right?

I wonder if it is logical to offer this. Maybe the client needs to have more control on the webserver configuration than what we can give in shared hosting...?

Please share your experiences...

[Jedito]

Originally posted by smash
I would like to offer JSP and Java Servlets to customers. It would be a special package especially for people who needs JSP/Servlets. The problem is that I am very familiar with PHP, mySQL and these kind of tools, and I know they can easily be adapted for a shared hosting environment, but I don't have a clue about java tools. I am ready to dedicate servers only for JSP and servlets...

Is anybody offering such tools? What are the problems related to them in a shared hosting environment? I think the tomcat configuration file must be modified for each servlets, right?

Not really, you can modify only httpd.conf and if you have configurated tomcat to pick up the changes at the restart, it will take it.
Or you can offer private tomcat instances, in that way, they can modify their tomcat configuration and you give them power to restart tomcat when they need it.

I wonder if it is logical to offer this. Maybe the client needs to have more control on the webserver configuration than what we can give in shared hosting...?

Please share your experiences...

Be prepared to a lot of work, and you can't host jsp/servlets in small boxes, you'll nead real powerfull boxes.
Tomcat its a resources hog.

[smash]

Alright.

So I was probably not wrong to think that all these hosts I have seen offering "Servlets and JSP" support in their "fully featured 9.99$ accounts" were probably not serious about it and would have been in trouble if anyone really wanted to use the java features..

[Jedito]

Hmmm.. I don't know what to say, because my prices start at $7.95
I don't know how much they pay for their hardware and/or bandwidth, how many sites they put in the same server, or customers have to pay an extra fee for jsp/servlets support or private tomcat instances, etc.

[Dreamz]

Just thinkover of Installing JRun its really great never gave us problems since 2 years you can use it in a shared environment.

If you want more details of JRun and its installation Please mail me at support@dreamzsolutions.net

It is any day better then Tomcat.


Regards,
K.Nizam

[2Grumpy]

As far as I can tell jrun is like $800 from Macromedia?

Ouch

[Jedito]

and the cheapest Resin package cost $3500

[2Grumpy]

Hardly worth the price to support a half dozen customers who want it in that case

And good god getting Tomcat installed is giving me a migraine.

[Jedito]

install it its the easy part, if you see what's to keep it working.