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10-13-2005, 06:44 PM #26Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
What if we went back to the signatures that didn't allow vb code?
When we introduced hyperlinking and colors, it was on a trial basis.0
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10-13-2005, 06:55 PM #27Dennis Johnson
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I have my moments.
I really would like to see what difference it made, before we went with more extreme measures.There is no best host. There is only the host that's best for you.0
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10-13-2005, 07:28 PM #28Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
I have my moments.
But...
I don't think removing vB code would have much if any effect on sig spammers. As long as they can have even one line of plain text in their sigs, I think they're going to keep planting that sig in the threads of people looking for hosting. Not allowing sigs isn't the way to go either. That topic has come up here several times, and most people want sigs to be allowed.
Back to the, er, boardroom?
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10-13-2005, 07:29 PM #29Web Hosting Evangelist
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Im not a moderator, so oviously i dont see all posts, but is there anyway that moderators could keep a tally, say if they see 10 unconstructive posts in day, that person looses sig previligies for 1 week (kinda like the other warning system works but for sigs). Yes it means more work for the mods (sorry guys) but i think it could work. I have made posts that i have been warned about, and its made me think twice when im posting (so the system works).
Alternatively, there would be the other plan to hire babu from vito and get him to fly around the world and hit the sig spammers on the head untill they give him a banana and stop doing it. I think that could work :-pNote to self: Add something funny!
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10-13-2005, 08:12 PM #30Originally posted by writespeak
I don't think removing vB code would have much if any effect on sig spammers.0
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10-13-2005, 08:18 PM #31Originally posted by anon-e-mouse
I suggest we try it and see If it doesn't help, then we go for more drastic measures.
Step 1: We remove vB code in sigs only for members who spam their sigs by posting useless or next-to-useless content.
Step 2: If those members continue sig spamming, we remove their sig privileges for a set period of time.
That way, only the problem people get the problem, and everyone else can have colourful sigs.
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10-13-2005, 08:21 PM #32Dennis Johnson
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I have a big problem using my crystal ball to determine why someone posts.
I'd rather not have to rely on that.There is no best host. There is only the host that's best for you.0
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10-13-2005, 08:26 PM #33Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
I have a big problem using my crystal ball to determine why someone posts.
I'd rather not have to rely on that.
- "There are many hosts that offer what you're looking for [including me]."
- "Just look in the Offers section [where I have an offer]."
- "A $6.95 plan sounds right for you [which, coincidentally, is exactly what I offer]."
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10-13-2005, 09:13 PM #34Disabled
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I agree with SWRs earlier suggestion of removing code.
Sigs should also be limited to one line.
Signatures have their purpose but like many other things a few bad apples ruin things for the rest.
There are a few members here who consistantly spam the main forum with their useless posts just to get their signature noticed.
It doesn't take long to figure out who these users are.0
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10-13-2005, 09:17 PM #35Eternal Member
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Originally posted by blue27
There are a few members here who consistantly spam the main forum with their useless posts just to get their signature noticed.
It doesn't take long to figure out who these users are.
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10-13-2005, 09:20 PM #36Disabled
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Originally posted by vito
I nominate blue to be the official WHT Sig Sheriff. Just let him loose for a few hours a day, he'll get this town cleaned up in a hurry!
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10-13-2005, 09:25 PM #37Eternal Member
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Cool. And if that goes well, you could also be appointed WHT Political-Threads-In-The-Lounge Sheriff, since we all know how objective, non controversial and non partisan you are when it comes to politics...
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10-13-2005, 09:34 PM #38Disabled
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Originally posted by vito
Cool. And if that goes well, you could also be appointed WHT Political-Threads-In-The-Lounge Sheriff, since we all know how objective, non controversial and non partisan you are when it comes to politics...
Vito
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10-13-2005, 10:13 PM #39Web Hosting Master
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I don't agree that removing a componant of sigs (vb code) will change anything. That's absurd to think that removing the vb code will stop sig pimping. Show me one scrap of evidence that this would be the case?
How about the Leaders put this to a community vote? Yes, you know, in a fair and democratic fashion, rather than something that Dennis and Jan think should happen.
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10-13-2005, 10:25 PM #40Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by blue27
I agree with SWRs earlier suggestion of removing code.
There is no proof to suggest that removing the VB componant of sigs will reduce sig pimping. If someone can show me some hard evidence that suggests so, then great. Sig pimpers will do so with or without the vb code. The VB code makes sigs more asthetic, and easy on the eye.
Sigs should also be limited to one line.
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10-13-2005, 10:29 PM #41Eternal Member
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I tend to agree with Bob. Yes, VB code will make the sig stand out more, and so that might encourage the sig whores to post with even more ferver. However, even with a single line sig, if allowed, they will still prostitute themselves at every opportunity.
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10-13-2005, 10:35 PM #42Dennis Johnson
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
. . . That's absurd to think that removing the vb code will stop sig pimping. Show me one scrap of evidence that this would be the case? . . .
Show me one scrap of evidence that it wouldn't help.
I can tell you that the reports we receive are for loud signatures. Not the black, soft ones that this forum was known for for so long.
Please think about a more democratic process, with important decisions like this.
This isn't a statement that the Forum Guidelines have been updated.
We are discussing ideas.
I presented mine.
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10-13-2005, 11:24 PM #43Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Hardly absurd.
Show me one scrap of evidence that it wouldn't help.
I asked for one scrap of real evidence that sigs with VB code in them are somehow detrimental, encourage sig pimping, and worse than sigs with non vb code in them.
A sig pimper is going to pimp with or without the vb code. Taking away the vb code would mean little to a sig pimper. They can still get their sig noticed. Removing the vb code from sigs, is a careless knee jerk reaction to a real problem.
I can tell you that the reports we receive are for loud signatures. Not the black, soft ones that this forum was known for for so long.
WHT was never known for "soft" sigs. Who was this known by? VB code in sigs has been here for many years. VB code in sigs makes the sigs look neater, and takes away all the sometimes messy urls etc. This line of thought that VB code in sigs is somehow responsible for sig pimping, is misdirected.
We are discussing ideas. I presented mine. You are free to agree or disagree or present your own.
Oops, that would be democratic.
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10-13-2005, 11:48 PM #44Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Show me one scrap of evidence that it wouldn't help.
I can tell you that the reports we receive are for loud signatures. Not the black, soft ones that this forum was known for for so long.
I enjoy looking at most sigs. I want to know what services each person offers, and I like to see personality expressed in them. We'd all lose a lot of that if we disabled vB code in sigs because of the handful among the hundreds of active members here who don't care about community values.
As I said, we won't know what will work until we try, but I would really like to start with options that affect only the problem people.
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10-13-2005, 11:54 PM #45Dennis Johnson
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
. . . WHT was never known for "soft" sigs. Who was this known by? VB code in sigs has been here for many years. . .
VB code in sigs makes the sigs look neater
Can't we become part of the real decision making process too?What's the solution here? It's simple.
I've posted plenty of "I agree" posts.
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10-13-2005, 11:59 PM #46Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
What's the solution here? It's simple. If folks see someone who is continually and purposely sig pimping, report that post to the moderators, and they can look into it further.
Whatever the solution something has to be done and fast. Whenever a noob posts 'I need a new web host' you can bet your bottom dollar the same pimps will be posting the same repeat replies or offering their 'sincere' condolances.0
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10-13-2005, 11:59 PM #47Dennis Johnson
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Originally posted by writespeak
. . . All we can do is discuss various ideas and then implement one or more of them, which I'm sure you're going to do. . .There is no best host. There is only the host that's best for you.0
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10-14-2005, 12:01 AM #48Originally posted by Aussie Bob
A sig pimper is going to pimp with or without the vb code. Taking away the vb code would mean little to a sig pimper. They can still get their sig noticed. Removing the vb code from sigs, is a careless knee jerk reaction to a real problem.
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10-14-2005, 12:01 AM #49Temporarily Suspended
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Wow, it seems many people seem to feel the same. Try this on for size...
My main idea is contingent on the forum being upgraded to vB 3 or higher: Just move all signatures of everyone to a link that appears in the sub-menu that appears when you click a username in a thread (called something like "View User Signature"). When you click it, it could either launch a pop-up window or use some DHTML to display the who signature as a "tool tip"-type pop-up display, as not to disrupt the reading of the thread itself with another page change.
What do you think?
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10-14-2005, 12:10 AM #50
I really think we should give the no code a try to see if it helps as I am sure it will. In fact I am 80% confident it will.
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