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    GoDaddy's Lies

    Did anyone else catch this today? Here is the letter I sent to TheWHIR.com regarding the article they published today on GoDaddy.com's tdnam service.
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    I am writing in regards to this story published today online by TheWHIR: http://www.thewhir.com/marketwatch/god101205.cfm .

    GoDaddy.com's The Domain Name Aftermarket is not a new service as GoDaddy claims. We setup our account at the tdnam site on June 1st of this year - if you would like, I can fax or email our receipt to you as verification of this. A simple whois lookup shows that the tdnam.com domain name was registered in February of this year.

    So I find it to be inaccurate reporting, stating that GoDaddy.com just now released this service. It has been around at least since May (and even then, it had a good number of domains for sale), and just is not a new service, as the article states.

    Thank you for your time.

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    Has anyone else here been using tdnam.com longer than we have? I find this to be a very underhanded move by GoDaddy.com to market what is, perhaps, a faltering service (?), by pegging it as 'new'.

    What are some others' thoughts on this?
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    I don't see it as a big deal.

    Lots of businesses are open for a while before making a "grand opening" announcement.
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    Originally posted by blue27
    I don't see it as a big deal.

    Lots of businesses are open for a while before making a "grand opening" announcement.
    Just because lot's of businesses do it doesn't mean it is right...
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    That still doesn't explain why you think it's wrong. I don't see any factual error in stating that a company is new, that's only six months old if that. Because that still qualifies as new to me. I also see nothing wrong with announcing a grand opening after a store has opened, regardless of how many businesses are doing it. How have you been harmed by any of this? No harm no foul, er, fraud.
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    Lots of businesses are open for a while before making a "grand opening" announcement.
    True, it's common practice. If they didn't announce it to the world in this manner before, in a way it's their right to do an official announcement regarding the launch of their service (as late as it may be).

    They have probably used these months to fine tune their service and get ready so that when the site is officialy announced, everyone (hopefully) finds it working flawlessly..
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    Look at the manner in which this is done...

    "The new site will offer..."

    "...it has launched its Internet auction site for domains, The Domain Name Aftermarket..."

    There is a very deceitful undertone to it, and GoDaddy.com wants it to appear as though this is a new venture.

    I was raised and taught that there was right and wrong and no in between. I'm learning more and more every day that most of the world thinks there is some sort of 'utopian in-between' and this, to me, is very sad. Nobody has a backbone anymore, and it gets on my nerves.

    No, this does not hurt me - at all. I myself am a user of the tdnam.com service. But it is deceptive, and deceit should not be rewarded.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbison
    ...that's only six months old if that...
    The domain was registered in February 2005 - when we registered our account on June 1st, 2005, the site had been active for some time.
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    http://www.bobparsons.com/GoodbyeSai...m]=tdnam#c4622

    Ok, so it was launched in April. I still feel, however, that announcing it six months later and making it sound brand-new, is deceitful. I also know for a fact that no fine-tuning went on at all, as I am a user of the service myself.
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    Originally posted by mynameweb
    Just because lot's of businesses do it doesn't mean it is right...

    Nor does it make it wrong.

    You haven't explained what is so bad about this nor have you justified your thread title that Godaddy is lying in any way.
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    Originally posted by mynameweb
    Ok, so it was launched in April. I still feel, however, that announcing it six months later and making it sound brand-new, is deceitful. I also know for a fact that no fine-tuning went on at all, as I am a user of the service myself.
    When Google Maps is no longer beta, I'm sure it will have an official introduction too. You make a small point that the wording could be misleading, but I still don't see much more than sloppy editing there. When my local chamber of commerce does a ribbon-cutting ceremony, it always seems to be a few months in to things never beforehand.
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    Originally posted by blue27
    Nor does it make it wrong.

    You haven't explained what is so bad about this nor have you justified your thread title that Godaddy is lying in any way.
    Please read a few of the posts above then...
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    Originally posted by BigBison
    When Google Maps is no longer beta, I'm sure it will have an official introduction too. You make a small point that the wording could be misleading, but I still don't see much more than sloppy editing there. When my local chamber of commerce does a ribbon-cutting ceremony, it always seems to be a few months in to things never beforehand.
    Hmmm...I wouldn't expect that to be the case with Google Maps. Besides, we're not talking about something that was in beta here. tdnam never was in beta (at least not publicly labeled, and certainly not mentioned in these media announcements), so that argument does not hold up.

    As for ribbon-cutting ceremonies, that's a little bit different. I am sure those companies take a little bit of time to get up and running - they're local, physical, and short on $$$. Again, tdnam.com was up and running fine and WAS NOT in beta mode when we registered our account on June 1st, 2005. Also, no new features have been added since that date to the tdnam.com service.
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    Six months old is infancy stage for a major new product. Consider also that The Whir was probably working on that article for at least a couple of months. There is an article in The Whir this month that includes an interview with me...and I gave that interview approximately 3 months ago.

    I see nothing wrong with what Godaddy did. Let me ask you, how "new" would you consider it appropriate to announce it as such?

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    Originally posted by mynameweb
    I also know for a fact that no fine-tuning went on at all, as I am a user of the service myself.
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    Also, no new features have been added since that date to the tdnam.com service.
    And you know every piece of code has stayed the exact same since you signed up? Fine tuning does not mean they add new features, they could have been tuning the background coding and evaluating the response from current users to see how things went before they actually announced the launch of the service.

    The other thing to take into account here is that it is afterall an auction site. They may have been holding off until it's popularity grew because if they announced it the day it opened, then it would have been pretty empty.

    6 months is not long for a business, I personally see nothing wrong with the article.
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    Originally posted by AH-Tina
    Six months old is infancy stage for a major new product. Consider also that The Whir was probably working on that article for at least a couple of months. There is an article in The Whir this month that includes an interview with me...and I gave that interview approximately 3 months ago.

    I see nothing wrong with what Godaddy did. Let me ask you, how "new" would you consider it appropriate to announce it as such?

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    There's one thing wrong with your logic: that mention was run as a result of a press release, as are all articles in theWHIR's Web Host Industry Review daily email mailing. Also, an article in a print publication is very different from an online article, and it is to be expected that there is a longer time lapse between the formative stages of a print article and its appearance in print.

    Well, I think a new service should be announced as soon as it is made available. It is fine to announce it at some later date, but to announce it as new, when it is in fact not new, is not right.
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    i know you are but what am i. This thread is retarded.
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    Originally posted by 3rdcoast
    i know you are but what am i. This thread is retarded.
    ??? - Care to share what's really on your mind?

    Guys, honestly, I'm not looking to start a fight. I just find it kind of underhanded that GoDaddy.com would announce a service as new when, in fact, it's been around for six months. This will be my last post in this thread as I feel I've made my case well enough.
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    Also consider the source. I find theWHIR useful, but it seems anyone can submit to it if they take the time.

    Of course, I could be wrong, but a lot of the emails I get are useless "company x promotes employee y to position z" type stuff...

    Scan it for headlines and discard the rest...
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    Six months to a year actually is generally considered a new stage for any company. Sometimes it takes a while to formally release a site/company or prepair to formally release a site/company. You may have started using it six months ago, but how long did it take them to prepair the release of the product? When it comes to a company as large as go-daddy theres more cogs and gears in effect there than a smaller company.
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    I do not see how that article would hurt anyone in anyway possible? It is not as if they are scamming people
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    Don't most companies test new products, before they announce them to the world?

    The area of the midwest, where I live, is used as a test market. Sometimes we get new products, as much as a year before they are advertised.
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    You have to pick your battles, mynameweb. It sounds like a combination of backend fine-tuning and allowing users to sign up so its active when they announce it. Imagine hearing about eBay and when you go to the site there are no auctions yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by AH-Tina
    ...There is an article in The Whir this month that includes an interview with me...
    Hey, I saw the mention today! Congrats on that!
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    Originally posted by mynameweb
    http://www.bobparsons.com/GoodbyeSai...m]=tdnam#c4622

    Ok, so it was launched in April. I still feel, however, that announcing it six months later and making it sound brand-new, is deceitful. I also know for a fact that no fine-tuning went on at all, as I am a user of the service myself.
    Welcome to the world of real business. Yes Virginia, it exists outside of web hobby talk. Products and services are "soft launched" after long R&D periods, proven, market and consumer tested and then announcements are made. If a company is public this schedule can be years.
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    what is the purpose of having a "grand opening" after already being in business? that's lame. yeah, it brings more people, but still.. it's not an opening if a place has already been open.
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