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Old 10-07-2005, 12:40 PM
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is "Pentium D" better than Xeon?


thinking of buying a new Supermicro server (http://www.supermicro.com/products/s...YS-5015M-T.cfm) and it supports the Pentium D (dual core) cpu...

Can anyone tell me in short if dual core (pentium d) cpus 1) run hotter than xeon 2) are faster/slower than equivalent clock speed xeon 3) are supported by linux kernel without issues 4) anything else you think is worth mentioning

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Old 10-07-2005, 01:11 PM
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if you are looking for all out brute force and outstanding quality i'd say go with the Xeon's they are tried and true and you know they will run for a long time w/o issues.

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Old 10-07-2005, 03:00 PM
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I will second that ... Xeon i think is the way to go as well.

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Old 10-07-2005, 03:19 PM
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unlike AMD dual-core, the two cores in P-D chip share the same front side bus (FSB) to external north-bridge and memory controller, therefore the performance will be inferior to two single Xeon chips which use independent FSB.

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Old 10-07-2005, 04:15 PM
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i have a xenon and i think its better than my old server celeron

i think u mean celeron d not pentium d

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Old 10-07-2005, 04:22 PM
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it may not be called the Pentium D but it is the pentium dual core proc that he's talking about and we know that

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Old 10-07-2005, 08:20 PM
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they are called the pentium D, there is also a Celeron D as well though (no direct relation and no the celeron is not dual core) If you are thinking single chip dual core go with the athlon X2....very very nice chip!

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Old 10-07-2005, 11:48 PM
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btw, P4 Dual cores are SUPER HOT!

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Old 10-07-2005, 11:49 PM
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I wonder if the OS needs to understand dual core procs to take advantage of them. If so, I wonder if anything but windows understands them yet.

Anyone using the 64bit xeons w/ linux? Any recommendations on 2.4 vs 2.6 kernels w/ these procs

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Old 10-07-2005, 11:51 PM
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Bryan, OS needs nothing special, 64bit x64 linux on Xeon is good, but better on AMD64 chips, I would go 2.6

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Old 10-07-2005, 11:56 PM
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You would go 2.6 because of the CPU or for other reasons?

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Old 10-07-2005, 11:59 PM
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Any 2.6 distro suggestions for a redhat junkie? Not much on fedora or redhat enterprise.


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Old 10-08-2005, 01:29 AM
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Mandriva is probably closest to Redhat. SUSE is also a good choice.

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Old 10-08-2005, 01:49 AM
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Look I know that Xeon is tried and true but we're going to be probably buying a dozen of new servers and don't want them to be outdated/irrelevant in 12 months time ...

I guess dual-core Pentium is still a little too new and people are cautios. I guess Xeon it is then ...

I'll be running a 3ware 8006-2LP (2 x 36gb Raptors in Raid1) in the server so onboard scsi/sata is irrelevant ... can anyone recommend a good supermicro 1U Xeon superserver with very good cooling, stable motherboard etc

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Old 10-08-2005, 02:03 AM
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It is not supermicro but a great setup from tyan would be http://www.tyan.com/products/html/gt20b5350.html

you will be very happy with the xeons

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