Results 1 to 30 of 30
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    singapore
    Posts
    455

    does theplanet allow illegal porn & cracks?

    looks to me ThePlanet doesnt bother about illegal porn & cracks.

    i have made complains since end of 2004 and nothing has been done to this website.

    i am very impressed.
    current and satisfied customer of softlayer.com and webnx.com

  2. #2
    Well, they get alot of complains probably, use a proper filing method (or get the proper owner of the images/software to file that) ie. report the site to either the software owners, or you could use: https://tips.fbi.gov/ in the extreme case of a warez site, FBI do take action

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    North Yorkshire, UK
    Posts
    4,163
    Don't see why you would be impressed ...

    But yes there has been a lot of threads around here covering the same issue, warez sites etc not getting dealt with appropriately.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    600
    why do ppl b*tch about other sites hosting warez?

    it doesn't affect them in any way, whether TP shuts them down or not affects software vendors and publishers, not other webhosts.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Oz
    Posts
    3,498
    If their hosting warez then The Planet or the company whos product is being ripped off will go after them, but if its child porn or something you can bet your *** that people will b*tch about it.

  6. #6
    We had one client with warez files on the server ,Burst.net contacted us and we have contacted the client ,next day client cancled the server because we do not accept warez. (client is Person from this forum b.t.w)

    Burst.net doing great job in case of warez but they really cannot cover 100% of complains because they are getting decent amount of complains every day. I'm sure they are going one by one in the most possible temp.

  7. #7
    we are talking about theplanet not burst.net here ...

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Lisbon - Portugal - Europ
    Posts
    268
    Originally posted by ewhost
    why do ppl b*tch about other sites hosting warez?

    it doesn't affect them in any way, whether TP shuts them down or not affects software vendors and publishers, not other webhosts.
    If an old man is laying on the street floor because he had an heart attack, who cares? It's not me!... Why did he have an heart attack just now, that I'm passing by! Stupid old man!

    Lookup your IP: snoopmyip.com
    Proxy Guide: proxyspot.com

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    Posts
    5,084
    No offense Eu1net but what the heck are you talking about?
    André Allen | E: aallen(a)linovus.ca
    Linovus Holdings Inc
    Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, VPS, Dedicated Servers & Public Cloud | USA, Canada & UK - 24x7x365 Support

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Burlington, NJ USA
    Posts
    21
    Eu1net is saying that we SHOULD care about 'doing the right thing'.

    John

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Lisbon - Portugal - Europ
    Posts
    268
    ewhost thinks that any webhost should ignore warez sites, because they only affect software vendors and publishers. They should ignore those sites, because they don't affect the web hosting business.

    I just gave an image of a webhost ignoring a warez site because it doesn't affect his business!
    Lookup your IP: snoopmyip.com
    Proxy Guide: proxyspot.com

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    600
    Originally posted by Eu1net
    ewhost thinks that any webhost should ignore warez sites, because they only affect software vendors and publishers. They should ignore those sites, because they don't affect the web hosting business.

    I just gave an image of a webhost ignoring a warez site because it doesn't affect his business!
    ... think about it.

    why would someone spend so much effort to get a site shut down?

    perhaps because they have an advantage to do so? such as perhaps... say... rivalry between websites?

    not saying that this is the case with the OP, but it does seem like he's going out of his way to get someone else's site shut down... which looks rather suspicious.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    64
    maybe he's a software developer who isn't apathetic or realizes that someone could, tomorrow, go about stealing your work, your company, and your ideas. If there weren't people like him, corporations wouldn't be attracted to the internet. No reason on spending millions on R&D only to have your work stolen.

    in addition, for those legit customers who are using theplanet, these illegitimate uses place them at risk. Imagine being on the same network as child porn and warez. Unfortunately, in this case, one can be guilty by assocation--your ip range might be blacklisted or filtered by software etc., That's why instead of asking why he bothers to take the initiative, we should continue to make noise and show theplanet, and other companies, that they are accountable. Eventually, people notice. Take, for example, EV1 getting slaughtered on the OReilly show for not acting on hosting terrorist sites. They tried to cover it up with some good PR and claim they can't monitor it all, but at the end of the day it was their own apathy to abuse complaints that hurt them.

  14. #14

    Re: does theplanet allow illegal porn & cracks?

    Originally posted by swijaya0101
    looks to me ThePlanet doesnt bother about illegal porn & cracks.
    Yes they also allow child molesters, rapist, murderers, etc.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    San Diego, California
    Posts
    336
    Originally posted by ewhost
    ... think about it.

    why would someone spend so much effort to get a site shut down?

    .
    Or maybe they simply support enforcing the law.

  16. #16
    Or maybe the FBI has already contacted them, and they have been asked to leave the site up while information is collected. This would be a perfectly valid reason for not taking it down.

    Whys everyone got to assume they support illegal action rather the cooperating with the authorities to help catch more then the 1 little kid that may be running the site?

    Everyones so quick to bash...

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    1,210
    Originally posted by ewhost
    why do ppl b*tch about other sites hosting warez?

    it doesn't affect them in any way, whether TP shuts them down or not affects software vendors and publishers, not other webhosts.
    As a client of the planet, it affects me in several ways. First and foremost, as someone morally opposed to theft, I don't want to give my business to a company who supports it, even if that support comes in the form of turning a blind eye. Secondly, warez sites have a way of attracting trouble in the way of dos attacks, blacklistings, etc..., any of which could have a direct impact on the ability of my site and services to function properly. Third, having knowledge of a crime and then ignoring it rather than attempting to do something about it is completely irresponsible.

    -Bob

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    1,210
    Originally posted by concept
    Whys everyone got to assume they support illegal action rather the cooperating with the authorities to help catch more then the 1 little kid that may be running the site?

    Everyones so quick to bash...
    That scenario would be believable if we were talking about a provider with a reputation for taking swift action against sites that violate their TOS/AUP and/or the law. Unfortunately, The Planet does not fall into that category.

    -B

  19. #19
    Ive had 7 or 8 servers that I have reported on TP's network that were compromised and all of them were taken offline within 12 hours. However, I did report them via abuse support tickets, and not their abuse email, so I cant speak for that.


    Also, just because there are 5 or 6 complaints on WHT, does not mean they have a bad reputation. Being so big I am sure they get hundreds of complaints and if they turned everyones server off that they received a complaint about, I'm sure all of you would be here, trying to be first in line complaining about their abuse department not investigating.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    1,210
    Originally posted by concept
    Ive had 7 or 8 servers that I have reported on TP's network that were compromised and all of them were taken offline within 12 hours. However, I did report them via abuse support tickets, and not their abuse email, so I cant speak for that.
    They say to use the abuse@ address, but I too have gotten better results by reporting via the ticket system. Stilll, TP's abuse department is very, very slack.

    Also, just because there are 5 or 6 complaints on WHT, does not mean they have a bad reputation.
    In the grand scheme of things, WHT really doesn't matter. Anyone who would base their opinion of a company on "5 or 6 complaints on WHT" is an idiot.

    My opinion of TP comes from watching them closely as a customer for the better part of two years, and from gathering data from a variety of different sources that I then take the time to personally verify. It is part of what my clients pay me for, and the sole reason that I have moved every server under my control, except for one, from TP/SM to other providers over the last four months.

    -B
    Last edited by TMX; 08-04-2005 at 06:22 PM.

  21. #21
    well,I report some non-English warez site to theplanet, their reply is "we don't understand those language"...then

    WAREZ IS STILL THERE

    theplanet=World warez supporter

  22. #22
    Wow, plenty of self-entitled moral sheriffs here... one would think this kind of mentality long gone with McCarthy but it seems it's still here...

    TMX, if you think it somehow affects your hosted site there, take it somewhere else. It's easy as 1-2-3.

    Eu1net's example is simply silly. His comparison is pretty flawed on every bit: one was about an action to SAVE something, the other has nothing to do with such things.

    ps: Whereas I'm not happy with any illegal porn stuff either...

    ...I couldn't care less about warez/crack sites. In fact in many cases they help tyo make correct buying decisions.

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Lisbon - Portugal - Europ
    Posts
    268
    kamm kamm, silly is a strong word.
    kamm kamm, I respect your opinion.
    kamm kamm, I don't agree with you.
    Lookup your IP: snoopmyip.com
    Proxy Guide: proxyspot.com

  24. #24
    Originally posted by Eu1net
    kamm kamm, silly is a strong word.
    kamm kamm, I respect your opinion.
    kamm kamm, I don't agree with you.
    his WHT name is silly

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    337
    If ThePlanet won't respond to your abuse emails or calls, then use the DMCA law to hang them with.

    Subpoena the information. That will definitely get ThePlanet's attention and put their action or inaction under a legal microscope subject to civil and criminal penalties.

    Just because ThePlanet is a large hosting company, it does not give them the right to ignore lawful DMCA { Digital Millennium Copyright Act} complaints.


    (h) SUBPOENA TO IDENTIFY INFRINGER-

    (1) REQUEST-

    A copyright owner or a person authorized to act on the owner's behalf may request the clerk of any United States district court to issue a subpoena to a service provider for identification of an alleged infringer in accordance with this subsection.

    (2) CONTENTS OF REQUEST-

    The request may be made by filing with the clerk--

    `(A) a copy of a notification described in subsection (c)(3)(A);

    `(B) a proposed subpoena; and

    `(C) a sworn declaration to the effect that the purpose for which the subpoena is sought is to obtain the identity of an alleged infringer and that such information will only be used for the purpose of protecting rights under this title.

    `(3) CONTENTS OF SUBPOENA-

    The subpoena shall authorize and order the service provider receiving the notification and the subpoena to expeditiously disclose to the copyright owner or person authorized by the copyright owner information sufficient to identify the alleged infringer of the material described in the notification to the extent such information is available to the service provider.

    (4) BASIS FOR GRANTING SUBPOENA-

    If the notification filed satisfies the provisions of subsection (c)(3)(A), the proposed subpoena is in proper form, and the companying declaration is properly executed, the clerk shall expeditiously issue and sign the proposed subpoena and return it to the requester for delivery to the service provider.

    (5) ACTIONS OF SERVICE PROVIDER RECEIVING SUBPOENA-

    Upon receipt of the issued subpoena, either accompanying or subsequent to the receipt of a notification described in subsection (c)(3)(A), the service provider shall expeditiously disclose to the copyright owner or person authorized by the copyright owner the information required by the subpoena, notwithstanding any other provision of law and regardless of whether the service provider responds to the notification.

    (6) RULES APPLICABLE TO SUBPOENA-

    Unless otherwise provided by this section or by applicable rules of the court, the procedure for issuance and delivery of the subpoena, and the remedies for noncompliance with the subpoena, shall be governed to the greatest extent practicable by those provisions of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure governing the issuance, service, and enforcement of a subpoena duces tecum.

  26. #26
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    337
    Originally posted by IKillBill
    well,I report some non-English warez site to theplanet, their reply is "we don't understand those language"...then

    WAREZ IS STILL THERE

    theplanet=World warez supporter
    If you can document that ThePlanet wrote or stated that; that is a legal liablity.

    The DMCA offers ISP's protection against copyright infringement liability arising from innocent storage of user material, or referring or linking users to other online locations containing copyrighted material. In addition, it also offers limitation of liability to both ISPs and others that cache, transmit, route or provide connections for digital online communications of user material, without modification, between points specified by a user.

    To qualify for limitation of liability under the DMCA, the ISP must be innocent of the customer's infringement or the infringing nature of material to which the ISP provides links, and the ISP's role must be limited to merely storing or transmitting customer postings or transmissions without modification. Thus any editing or other modification to the customer material renders the potential protection of the DMCA inapplicable. In addition, the ISP must act upon notification of copyright infringement by disabling access to allegedly infringing postings and links to infringing material. The ISP must also reasonably implement (and inform subscribers of) a policy that provides for the termination of repeat infringers.
    If a service provider refuses to take down copyrighted material expediously after being notified; then they have broke the law.

    If you have emails or a letter from ThePlanet stating that they are not going to do anything; then the copyright holder has a strong civil case against them.

  27. #27
    Originally posted by Frontpage1
    [B]


    (h) SUBPOENA TO IDENTIFY INFRINGER-

    (1) REQUEST-

    A copyright owner or a person authorized to act on the owner's behalf may request the clerk of any United States district court to issue a subpoena to a service provider for identification of an alleged infringer in accordance with this subsection.

    Hate to tell you but, only the copywrite holder can submit a DMCA. At the end of the letter you have to state under penatly of law that you are authorized by the copywrite holder to send the letter.


    You might want to stay out of legal advice until you actually understand what your saying.



    As required by 17 U.S.C. §512(c)(3), I hereby declare that I am the authorized agent of the copyright owner, COMPANY. I have the good faith belief that use of these materials in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, any agent or the law. The information in this notification is accurate. Under the penalties of perjury, I am authorized to act on behalf of COMPANY, the owner of the copyright. Your immediate attention to this matter is requested.

  28. #28
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    337
    Originally posted by concept
    Hate to tell you but, only the copywrite holder can submit a DMCA. At the end of the letter you have to state under penatly of law that you are authorized by the copywrite holder to send the letter.


    You might want to stay out of legal advice until you actually understand what your saying.

    And you might want to actually read posts before commenting on them. No where in my posts about copyright law did I imply otherwise.

    Just because ThePlanet is a large hosting company, it does not give them the right to ignore lawful DMCA { Digital Millennium Copyright Act} complaints.
    Plus, it is spelled 'copyright' not 'copywrite'.


    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln

  29. #29
    Originally posted by Eu1net
    kamm kamm, silly is a strong word.
    Ok, sorry then.

    kamm kamm, I respect your opinion.
    It's true vica versa...

    kamm kamm, I don't agree with you.
    ... but I don't agree with yours either.

  30. #30
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Lisbon - Portugal - Europ
    Posts
    268
    Ok! We agree that we disagree...
    Lookup your IP: snoopmyip.com
    Proxy Guide: proxyspot.com

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •