You guys are my last hope, I hope you know that....
I've been through at least a week of trying to figure out a fix to this problem and can't.
Edit: I apparently can't post URL's to other sites until I've made 5 posts or more. I can see where this would cut down on spamming, but doesn't it kinda make it hard for people like me to find help on a web host forums? *edits his post to remove URLs*
I have 2 URL's. One is a free URL provided by my host, this one is (URL#1) the other I paid for, it is (URL#2)
Both of these addresses point to the same directory on my hosts server, and there starts the problem. I used to (before I had the cash for the domain name) use the free name and people started linking to me. Now it's been almost a year and a half since I stopped using that one and googlebot, etc. still picks it up off various sites and gives that as my URL. Now this isn't a problem as far as reaching my site b/c, as I said, both point to the same directory. However, it'd be nice if google would only pick up one URL and my page would be listed by the one I'm actually paying money for.
Personally I don't care how this is done, the old one can die, it can be redirected, I don't really care. So here starts my search. My first quest was to simply get my free URL changed, then my old one will die, I won't use the new one, no problem. EHHHH!!! my service provider can't do that.
My next is a 301 permanent re-direct to my new site. Unfortunately because the .htaccess file I'm putting the re-direct is in the same directory as the one I'm redirecting to (if that makes any since) It gives me some weird errors. When going to (URL#1) it seems to redirect to orderofatlas.com just fine. However, when going to, say, (URL#1/as) it looks as though it were connecting (shows (URL#2) in the lower left) but then gives me the error "Redirection limit for this URL exceeded. Unable to load the requested page. This may be caused by cookies that are blocked." That particular directory is a major part of my site.
The next thing that was suggested to me was a mod_rewrite. This sounded like the perfect solution. It was built for just this kinda problem. So I try it and it gives me a weird error message. I'd post it but it doesn't matter. The reason it doesn't matter you ask? Well I called up my provider once more and was given a "that doesn't work on our servers" answer. So that was a brick wall....
So I proceeded to ask the "Technical Support" how I can fix this error. The "Technical Support" said... ummm... hummm.... there's really nothing you can do..." after grilling him on different things I tried and ideas of what -might- work I finally dug out of him that a PHP Referrer script -might- work. Well this is good, at least I still have hope, unfortunately this requires knowing PHP. For those of you who don't know me (I hope none of you do, that'd be creepy) I'm about as inept at programming as one can get. I got HTML down after years of being forced to deal with it, and I can modify java if it's close to what I already want, again, years of being forced to deal with it.
After a bit of research on PHP referrer scripts anyway (hoping I could pull something from areas the sun should never shine) I'm only left with a confused expression on my face. It seems PHP referrer scripts only track who referred a user to your website. It shows the IP address of the visitors and with last visit date of referrer and first and last visit date of IP address.
Now I'm left with nearly no hope left, I'm hoping someone here can come up with something, anything I can try. Or maybe you guys can refer me to some LORD OF ALL WEB MANAGEMENT who can give me some ruby red slippers... oh... wrong story... Maybe someone here knows some PHP though, I wouldn't ask someone to write an entire script for me, but maybe they can tell me if that would work and face me towards an example, anything PLEASE
Originally posted by David Have your host make your old URL redirect to a different location (directorywise)
This is appearently impossible for them. That's one of the first things I asked about.
I wanted them to redirect, to drop the old URL, to change the location the old URL pointed to, to drop the account all together create a new one and then I'd re-upload the site and everything, etc. Basically my provider told me I was alone on this and that I can't count on them to do crap to help me.
? I had a somewhat similar problem on my Site5 account. However, they were very helpful in this matter.
If the host allows more than one domain on the account (like Site5), it shouldn't be too difficult to solve.
My host seems to be less than helpful in this matter. Like I said, the tech I talked to basically told me I'm SOL. I'm going to write them a letter when I get time today giving them options 1-4, where 1-3 are fixes and 4 is where I find a new host. Netfirms has usually been pretty good with me up till now, but this should be an easy problem for me to fix and an easier one for them and their more or less telling me too bad deal with it.
If either Domain name is Parked on the other one, you are SOL unless you change Hosters for one of the Domains. Your Hoster 'could' make changes in the Apache config file, but from has been posted already regarding their previous replies, it's probably out of the question.
If one Domain is an Addon then we have something we can work with.
Dont' know what kind of Control Panel your Hoster provides, but if you could tell us the name of it -- and answer the above question -- we can move forward to a solution.
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You can apply this to any page, not just the front page. If you have a header for your site that is used in all pages (and supports PHP), you can add code like the above to redirect users to your new URL. You can even mimick the mod_rewrite behaviour and pass them directly to the page they accessed, just use PHP's parse_url/other $_SERVER variables.
Rob: Getting the answers, I'll get back with them.
jnyc: The PHP might work, but I'd rather not have to add that to every page. The mod_rewrite won't work unless they change their Apache. The ideal solution for me would be to point (URL#1) at a different directory and use a 301 to redirect to my new site this way googlebot would get the clear idea that (URL#1) is permenatly dead once and for all.
''ooaomega' is your Netfirms account name. Meaning that '(URL #1)' is a pointer that we give our customers when they do not have a domain name. Otherwise, just use your domain instead. Your primary, fully qualified domain is (URL #2).
We use a customized Control Panel, accessible from:
We do not support third party Control Panels at this time. (I asked if I could install CPanel or something)
I have re-sent your login information to the contact yahoo.com e-mail address of record for your account.
I hope that answers those questions of yours. Basically, it's Netfirms own control panel. Not nearly as much as CPanel or something, but if you tell me what you want done I can try it.
YEA!! one more post and I can just post the URLs instead of having to shorthand everything....
ArtieFishill: Can you explain in more detail what you mean, I kinda see what your getting at, but not exactly how it works.
I think I understand the situation a little better now - is the "free url" actually one of those temporary names that Netfirms gave you before you signed up for actual domain name? If that is the case, I can't see how any true domain name pointing or redirecting is going to work...because the 'free' name isn't a true domain name?
If you have actually two separate and real domain names that have been registered with a registration provider, you can try what Artie is saying. What he is suggesting is to edit the nameserver info (sometimes called "DNS") in the registration record to point back to the registrar's default nameservers and use the registrar's "forwarding" services to point it to your other url at Netfirms. But this is assuming the registrar offers a domain name forwarding service.
Yes, the "free url" is actually one of those temporary names netfirms gives before you have an actually URL. The problem is it's not so temporary... it's a bit more perminant. So no, I guess what Artie is saying won't work.
BTW, since this is my 6th post, the URLs are as follows