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    How to keep porn spammers from snagging domain names

    We do a small amount of web hosting, primarily for customers for whom we do web site development. We're also a domain name reseller, once again mostly just for these customers plus ourselves.

    We've had several customers shut down their web sites for various reasons - closing of a business, personal illness, etc. For the most part, these people also have no desire to maintain ownership of the old domain name. We also have other customers who've had multiple domain names pointing at their web site and decide that some of the domain names are no longer of use.

    What I'd like is to avoid having porn spammers or anyone else from having any desire to pick up these domain names, as often happens.

    Will removal of the domains from the major search engine indexes accomplish this? If so, what is the best way to scrub any reference of the domain from these indexes? I can probably manage to get the site itself removed, but how do you remove refering links, short of contacting a lot of web site owners?

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    I don't see an easy way to removed the domain from the search engines. After the domain is deleted i think it will be quickly removed from the major engines, but not the small directories and web sites that are linking to the site.

    There is no way for you to have control over a domain name that you don't want to pay for anymore. The domain is only yours when you are paying for it, if is deleted than any one can use it for any purpose ofcourse if is not for illegal material.

    just hope that no one in the porn industry get your domains.
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    I'm not sure I understand the question exactly but if it's what I think it is, I may have to face this myself.

    I bought web hosting and registered a domain name. I then changed my mind and registered another domain name. Right now both point to my web site. I will only renew the second name. What happens to the first if someone else registers it but doesn't host it? Is this anything I need to worry about?
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    there is nothing to worry about. The worse it can happen is that your domain may be used by your competition.

    If you don't want anyone to use that domain keep it, that's all you can do.
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    Originally posted by drizzle
    I'm not sure I understand the question exactly but if it's what I think it is, I may have to face this myself.

    I bought web hosting and registered a domain name. I then changed my mind and registered another domain name. Right now both point to my web site. I will only renew the second name. What happens to the first if someone else registers it but doesn't host it? Is this anything I need to worry about?
    If you have any traffic coming into your site using the domain name and the name is "out there", i.e. referenced in search engines, then likely what will happen is that some spammer will pick up the domain name for the couple bucks it costs him each year and set up a site, possibly pointing at porn sites, possibly filled with affiliate advertising, could be anything. They just try to sleaze into the traffic you had, or that search engines will send to them for free.

    I'd like to avoid that happening to any of my former customer sites, just to save them the possible embarassment. So I'm trying to figure out how to make the domain names as unatractive as possible by killing all links and all traffic to those names.

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    Eli, there is not an easy way to do what you want, but if the domain is attractive and bringing traffic why not keep it? it only cost you a few bucks a year and can bring good traffic.
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    @OP

    I am facing the similiar scenario. Search engines have indexed my old domain. So I retained the old domain for one more year and then redirected all those traffic to the new domain. But the search engines still cache the old domain.

    I was hoping the Google would change the links to the new domain.

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    You can get domains out there for $8.99 a year, i think the traffic worth more than that. I would never delete a domain that is sending traffic to my site.
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    But it's not the name that sends traffic to the site, even if the name is indexed by the search engines (really an SEO topic).

    From what I've seen, having the same content indexed, with only a different host name, is worth very little in the search engines. Do a google search for your domain using "site:mydomain.com" and then "site:www.mydomain.com". Both will return approximately the same number of entries, yet if you eliminated the "www" version it's very unlikely that you'll fair any worse in searches. You'll still want the "www." version, if only because some people may enter your domain name with the www host name prefix.

    A similar thing happens with multiple domain names - unless it's to avoid confusion - say a .net and a .com version of the same name, or maybe a hyphenated version, and one without - there's not much value in pointing many names at the same web site.

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    Okay, thanks, sounds like I have no problem since I'm not using the original name. The porn-spammers won't get much from me.
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    It is also just not porn scammers, there are a lot of people that watch expiring names and snatch them up once they expire. A lot of times they just look if the domain looks decent and if so they take it. As posted above paying the small fee per year is the best option if you need it.
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    The traffic of the domains will drop fast if the web site is down. The reason i was saying that the domain can have a high traffic is because some domains are just "Naturals" for example cars.com, many people will type that without going to any search engines.

    Those high traffic domains are very valuable. But if you talk bout google, msn, yahoo etc. they will drop your domain very fast after your web site is down. The only traffic that will keep coming are the people that already know you or web sites that are linking to you (link exachange or small directories/search engines).

    If a porn company gets your domain they will not longer appear under your keywords on the search engine, because the engine will visit their site and pick up the new keywords. The only bad thing is if people that know your site go to that domain and they may thing you are now into porn.

    There are cases of companies that forget to renew their domains (case of bratta.com) and the competition will do a back order and pick it up.
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    Originally posted by hellind2
    I am facing the similiar scenario. Search engines have indexed my old domain. So I retained the old domain for one more year and then redirected all those traffic to the new domain. But the search engines still cache the old domain.

    I was hoping the Google would change the links to the new domain.
    It depends on whether you used a 301 or a 302 redirect. If you use a 301, the search engines ought to replace the old domain name with the new one.

    Instead of just letting your domain expire, route all requests to a nonexistent page several weeks ahead of time. The bots will get 404 errors repeatedly and should remove the domain from their indexes. Then, no worries when it expires.
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    I think you guys said it alll... If you happen to have a really flashy domain name, you can indeed sell it at a high price.
    I tried selling some old un-used ones I had, but so far no luck...
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    Personally, I'm confuseds as to why you would even care. Unless the domain used to belong to you, why would you care if some sleaze porn scum buys it up and uses it? Not like it's hosted on your servers or even pointing to your nameservers.

    As it is said..."Not your problem, man."

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    Imagine some one going to your website through a domain that you pointed to the main site. They like the content and bookmark it, so the pointed domain would be in the bookmarks. Later on they access the bookmark only to find some other content (maybe bad stuff) and they would now think badly of the website and never return to it.

    I know it's unlikely that if some one likes the website they would not remember the real domain, but it is possible.

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    I don't see why you'd worry about this, as long as its not pointing to you...well, you're safe

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    Originally posted by jag121
    Imagine some one going to your website through a domain that you pointed to the main site. They like the content and bookmark it, so the pointed domain would be in the bookmarks. Later on they access the bookmark only to find some other content (maybe bad stuff) and they would now think badly of the website and never return to it.

    I know it's unlikely that if some one likes the website they would not remember the real domain, but it is possible.
    That makes little if any sense.

    What would that have to do with the host? Hosts rarely point to clients domains if the domain was taken over and made into a porn site, doubt any links back to the old host would remain.

    The whole concept as I see it is that the OP is worried that by some wierd internet magic, his hosting business would be looked down upon because a client let a domain slide and it got taken over by porn sites? How that would reflect back to him is beyond me.

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    The OP didn't say it would affect him, rather he wanted to avoid this situation because he cares for his customers and wants them to be saved from possible embarrassment.

    It's possible that if a spammer got hold of a former client's domain, the host might get a call from the former client asking him why their previous domain is now sending spam or whatever and ask why he didn't stop it from happening. If the host doesn't provide a good explanation, the former client may not be happy and conclude that any domain hosted with this host that expires will become a spam site. Host would no longer get any referrals from former client because of what happened.

    I know, it's a lot of ifs.

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