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[renegadeavenger]

hivelocity vs fdcservers.net.

which one would be better for 10mbps unmetered?

[Ran]

I've used both, and don't like either. You should try some other unmetered deals at OrangeFiber or something (which I don't like that much either ).

[XF-Chan]

OrangeFiber... I'd rather stay far away...

For me, it's Hivelocity hands down.

[VideoJunky]

i'm on fdc right now with 100 unmetered. how they explain it that all their customers get the same massive backbone and the 10mbits are just capped off to the 10 so 100mbit wouldnt be that much faster.
right now i get about avg 6mbits but i hit 23mbits when i released some popular content and at that time fdc was down a gigabit line from provider issues.

[music]

I found this questioned ask on another forum;

Originally Posted by renegadeavenger
I am trying to compare hivelocity vs fdcservers. Hivelocity has 10 mbps unmetered and their pricing is pretty affordable. Fdcservers offered 100 mbps unmeterered however it is shared on a network which I personally don't mind BUT policy states if outbound is over 15mbit I will be capped at 10mbps unmetered. So what is the point of 100 unmetered? Wouldn't Hivelocity be the way to go because the cost is lower and since assuming I go beyond 15 mbit I will be capped at 10mbit unmetered anyways or am I not understanding their policy correctly?

And this response from FDC.

#1 the policy is mainly there to protect FDC and their customers who use shared bandwidth against bandwitdh abusers. If you need more than 20Mbits or more 24x7 you should go for dedicated bandwidth which is very reasonably priced.
I never saw the policy enforced against a customer who had sustained usage sligtly over 15Mbit. It`s usually used against 30Mbit + suistained

#2 as far as Hivelocity goes

- your port is capped, you can`t burst over 10Mbit
- there is a setup fee
- you pay extra for the control panel
- you pay extra for the windows OS
- you pay extra for IPs
- they charge monthly extra monthly fees for upgrades

when you add up all the extra fees it may actually cost more to get their 10Mbit server.

One of the nice things these days is that you can get a server on month to month basis so you can shop around untill you find ISP who will fit your needs or budget.

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Hope this helps.......the rest of it is on the fdc forum

[XF-Chan]

- your port is capped, you can`t burst over 10Mbit

This is the norm. You won't be billed for overages, and this is a dedicated port.

- there is a setup fee

Yes, but not if paid quarterly.

- you pay extra for the control panel
- you pay extra for the windows OS
- you pay extra for IPs

Um... this is normal like every other provider?

- they charge monthly extra monthly fees for upgrades

This is normal as well.

[music]

I guess FDC is not like other provides because you do not pay extra.

That was the point :-)

[tkam]

I recommend hivelocity and if you really need to burst higher than 10mbit they have a 20mbit unmetered plan that is also quite affordable.

[efarmer]

Originally posted by renegadeavenger
hivelocity vs fdcservers.net.

which one would be better for 10mbps unmetered?

If you are comparing about mbps, of course FDC is better (base on FDC 100Mbps shared and Hivelocity 10mbps shared)

[RajH]

Originally posted by XF-Chan
OrangeFiber... I'd rather stay far away...

For me, it's Hivelocity hands down.

Our network has improved dramatically, we are no longer congested, since you are not a customer you are breaking the rules of the forum by commenting on something you do not have experience on first hand recently.

It is hard to keep an uncongested network with the way Cogent bills, they do not bill on 95th percentile, but rather based on increments of full 1000Mbps at a time. We are however, more properly managing packet QoS and everyone is happy with their service now.

If you, or anyone else is still experiencing issues, please email me at rajhuntab@orangefiber.com with an explaination and traceroutes.

[lumbyjj]

Originally posted by RajH
Our network has improved dramatically, we are no longer congested, since you are not a customer you are breaking the rules of the forum by commenting on something you do not have experience on first hand recently.

It is hard to keep an uncongested network with the way Cogent bills, they do not bill on 95th percentile, but rather based on increments of full 1000Mbps at a time. We are however, more properly managing packet QoS and everyone is happy with their service now.

If you, or anyone else is still experiencing issues, please email me at rajhuntab@orangefiber.com with an explaination and traceroutes.

Ummm.. Just to clarify a few points..

1. Network congestion doesn't correlate with the way your provider bills, it correlates with how much bandwidth you have from your provider(s).

2. Cogent (us being a cogent customer) DOES bill on 95th percentile if you go over your commit. If you are committing to a Gb/s then you will get billed a Gb/s. Of course, this really doesn't matter because how you are paying for something doesn't correlate as to whether or not you have enough bandwidth.

Glad we could clear that up...

[RajH]

I forgot that you worked for us, you're right, correct me on what OUR problems were, I'm sure you know better than we do.

[lumbyjj]

No, I don't work for you, I just know that how something is being billed has nothing to do with the actual network. I have a little (although not much) of a thing called common sense.. Please don't insult my intelligence and imply that your network somehow works SOOO differently from pretty much every other network on the planet.

That being said, I do run an uncongested network. I also know that the only reason that you would have congestion on your network that COULD somehow be linked to billing, is if you weren't buying enough...

[aplawson]

In my experience it really depends on how you're setup with them. We're about to start offering unmetered servers and Cogent does not offer us the benefit of a 95th percentile if we find out we need more. We have what we have and if we need more we go buy more.

Now, if I was going through a Cogent reseller or another company, then sure the option exists to be either capped or billed at X commit and billed overages accordingly using whatever calculation. But I think we're in the same boat as OF in that we get what we get. When buying 1000mbps at a time, that certainly affects how your network looks. Paying another $10000 for another Gig line to keep a few servers from seeing some congestion doesant make a lot of sense, unless you already have sufficient profit to stay ahead of the curve (or forsee the need more than 17 days in advance for Cogent to upgrade the lines)

[lumbyjj]

We go through Cogent directly and are able to get burst rates on our lines.. It wouldn't make sense for them not to give you a burst rate. Especially on your 2nd or 3rd GigE... It was never a question for us... Talk to your rep, tell him that unless he gives you a smaller commit with burst rates on your next line, you don't buy a next line. I'm sure he'll go for the commission.. You SHOULD be able to commit to 1200, 1300, 1400 etc...