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07-22-2005, 07:32 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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When to draw the line
Hi fellow WHT'ers,
I've just come back from a friends birthday party. Up until 8:00 we had all drunk about 5 beers. We were having a laugh, and a lark but nothing serious.
However, before soon, my friend began to pour beer over people and my friends were climbing on the roofs of peoples houses.
As of that moment I decided to stop drinking.
They were calling me gay and making me feel generally uncomfortable.
I understand that they don't mean what they said as they were under the influence of alcohol but it was nevertheless offensive.
I tried to pass it off.
At about half eight no-one was acting logically and people were starting to get angry with each other - a full scale fight almost broke out.
About 2 hours later, I said goodbye to whoever hadn't stumbled drunkenly down the road and walked home.
I don't wan't to sing my own praises but (in a way) I suppose I deserve to be able to (to some extent).
I feel proud that I acted on principle and (although I may not be liked for it now by my friends) i'm glad I did what I did.
My dad called me - "a man of principle" and (as I don't have much confidence) this has helped me alot.
I now for myself (even if nobody else does) that I am a man of principle and this is one thing I can be proud of.
When do you think it is time to draw the line when you are in such a situation?
JordOur greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius
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07-22-2005, 08:03 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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The minute someone gets drunk and can no longer control themselves, that's where I draw the line.
About 6 months ago I was at a friends party and the similiar thing happened. To top it off, this one chick got so wasted that she passed out. I had to help her to the bathroom (where she passed out again) and then helped her to the bedroom to sleep it off.
Not very responsible to get drunk and have other people helping you. I went to have fun, not to babysit.
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07-22-2005, 08:06 PM #3Disabled
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You did the right thing. Your friends were way out of line to go on top of other houses. They deserved to go to jail for that crap.
I'm not saying you should not be friends with them, and I hope you are not offended by me saying so, but I would not choose to hang out with those types of people. If they act like that, they're losers.
When is the right time to draw the line? In my opinion, if people want to hurt themselves they can go and do that. But the moment they start hurting others, or things that belong to others, they suck.
I have a hard time making friends with people my age because so many of them think the only way to have a good time is to get drunk and have sex with anything that moves. I consider myself lucky that I am able to find people like myself who I am friends with.
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07-22-2005, 08:17 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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07-22-2005, 08:51 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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Get drunk, throw beer, knock eachother out, fine...
Alcohol + Climbing houses = accident waiting to happen...
If I were you I'd have walked sooner, but good move keeping your cool
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Also, to add...
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07-22-2005, 10:01 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Rob83
The minute someone gets drunk and can no longer control themselves, that's where I draw the line.
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07-22-2005, 10:45 PM #8Disabled
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Originally posted by Rob83
The minute someone gets drunk and can no longer control themselves, that's where I draw the line.
About 6 months ago I was at a friends party and the similiar thing happened. To top it off, this one chick got so wasted that she passed out. I had to help her to the bathroom (where she passed out again) and then helped her to the bedroom to sleep it off.
Not very responsible to get drunk and have other people helping you. I went to have fun, not to babysit.
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07-22-2005, 11:05 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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That's some pretty strong beer.
I've been boozing for quite some time and I'll have to agree with Rob83. If you can't control yourself take it a bit easier.
You definately did the right thing effusion. You were there to have a good time. The moment you stop having a good time or the moment you stop feeling comfortable with the people around you LEAVE. people may make fun of you at the time, but they'll respect you for it later.
As for me, I usually drink amongst friends that aren't really prone to doing silly things like that.
But I can recall some hazy memories of leaving parties when I fet a really had to get out of there. ie fat girls chasing me.
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07-22-2005, 11:08 PM #10Web Developer
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07-22-2005, 11:28 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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You draw the line when YOU feel uncomfortable with the situation.
I have friends I'll get sloppy drunk with, and I have friends who I won't so much as drink socially with, not because I don't like them but because I don't like them when they drink. Some people are not pleasant when they get a little tipsy, and some people just mellow out and have a good time.Gary Harris - the artist formerly known as Dixiesys
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07-22-2005, 11:33 PM #12Newbie
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Call me crazy, but I draw the line before the first drink. I think a lot of that has to do with being a mom now, but I've been down that road and it doesn't lead to anything good.
Effusionx1, you did the right thing to walk away. I've got to agree with Take-IT-EZZI about leaving sooner. But you did the right thing!
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07-22-2005, 11:39 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Dixiesys
You draw the line when YOU feel uncomfortable with the situation.
I have friends I'll get sloppy drunk with, and I have friends who I won't so much as drink socially with, not because I don't like them but because I don't like them when they drink. Some people are not pleasant when they get a little tipsy, and some people just mellow out and have a good time.
I'm just going to go ahead and quote this for truth.
If I had a drinking team, Dixiesys would be my first draft pick.
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07-23-2005, 12:42 AM #14Junior Guru
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A couple years ago some college kids were renting a house down the street from us. Over Labor Day weekend they were having a party. In the middle of the night 5 of them thought it'd be fun to go out in the paddle boat (seats 2 people). Only 4 of them came back. We had helicopters, boats, etc searching all night and all day. They found him a few days later about 5 feet from their pier.
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Is the birth date in your profile correct and that you and your friends are about 16-17 years old?
A good number of 18-22 year olds are irresponsible drinkers.
If you're asking for advice then I advise you to find high school friends that don't drink at all. I have nothing against alcohol and drink myself but I've yet to encounter "responsible" high school partiers whose partying centers around alcohol.Rich
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07-23-2005, 01:09 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by DevilDog
Is the birth date in your profile correct and that you and your friends are about 16-17 years old?
A good number of 18-22 year olds are irresponsible drinkers.
If you're asking for advice then I advise you to find high school friends that don't drink at all. I have nothing against alcohol and drink myself but I've yet to encounter "responsible" high school partiers whose partying centers around alcohol.
It is a pain some times .
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I would love to go to parties with my friends but the reason I don't go to parties at all is because people drink. When people drink, it is a scarey situation for me.
It seems that to some people to have fun is to go crazy with drinking and throwing up. This spring semester, my friend was talking to her roommate in their dorm about drinking. They were talking about how fun it is to throw up.
Mind me...she is 25 (according to her license...I had a peek while she was trying to hide it from me and showing it to the lady at the cashier machine at the store)....but she tells me that she is 21. At 25 years old and drinking like crazy?
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07-23-2005, 01:16 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by indiaberry
I would love to go to parties with my friends but the reason I don't go to parties at all is because people drink. When people drink, it is a scarey situation for me.
It seems that to some people to have fun is to go crazy with drinking and throwing up. This spring semester, my friend was talking to her roommate in their dorm about drinking. They were talking about how fun it is to throw up.
Mind me...she is 25 (according to her license...I had a peek while she was trying to hide it from me and showing it to the lady at the cashier machine at the store)....but she tells me that she is 21. At 25 years old and drinking like crazy?
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07-23-2005, 01:25 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Torith
Throwing up is cool?
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07-23-2005, 01:32 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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well sometimes you've got to make room for another drink...
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07-23-2005, 07:32 AM #21
Part of the "thrill" of getting drunk for some is just acting completely and incredibly imature and irresponsible. I guess this goes away with age (for most), but it's still irresponsible.
I have very few people I'll go drinking with any more, mainly because of me acting like an idiot as a kid, and getting stabbed 3x in the back (not one of my more favorite memories). For me, it's not a matter of how much, but how much $$$ I have to spend.
I don't drink beer, I stick to a usual drink (captain & coke), which, around here goes for about $3-$5 depending on the bar. Now I can HANDLE a good 10 or so drinks, and be responsible with it, but my wallet (usually) can't, so I have 3-4, call it a night and go home. By that point I'm happy.
Drinking means drinking responsibly, both financially (heh) and physically. If you can't exactly stand up, it's WELL past time to draw the line. If you start doing something you wouldn't normally do, again, well past timeTom Whiting, WHMCS Guru extraordinaire
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07-23-2005, 08:19 AM #22Web Hosting Master
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I think I'm one of the only people in grades 10-12 who has never drunk. It's probably more because I don't have much of a social life than anything else, as I'm sure if I did, I'd be drinking, if only from "peer pressure."
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07-23-2005, 08:36 AM #23Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by DevilDog
Is the birth date in your profile correct and that you and your friends are about 16-17 years old?
A good number of 18-22 year olds are irresponsible drinkers.
If you're asking for advice then I advise you to find high school friends that don't drink at all. I have nothing against alcohol and drink myself but I've yet to encounter "responsible" high school partiers whose partying centers around alcohol.
I have no problem with drinking responsibly, the odd joke, the odd dig, the odd rugby tackle but my friends crossed the line.
(Apart from one who also decided to go home early).
I would agree with you totally, young drinkers are irresponsible drinkers generally.
However, I could pick just three friends of mine and be sure in the knowledge that it would all remain friendly and just a laugh.
There were one or two guys "friends" who I have never really considered to be good friends but it was one of those peoples parties. His friend became violent and then some of my friends who are easily influenced by those two guys joined in - it was a domino effect.
JordOur greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius
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07-23-2005, 08:49 AM #24Web Hosting Master
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Drink legally at 16? The age is 18?
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07-23-2005, 09:02 AM #25Web Hosting Master
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Oh, you're British...that explains it.
Royal Marines definitely like their beer.
Seriously, regardless of culture. I think it's too young. Alcohol has a tendency to cause problems as you've described because young men tend to associate heavy drinking with being masculine. Some people are very angry drunks.Rich
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