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[Acroplex]

Atta's father praises London bombs

CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- The father of one of the hijackers who commandeered the first plane that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, praised the recent terror attacks in London and said many more would follow.

Speaking to CNN Producer Ayman Mohyeldin Tuesday in his apartment in the upper-middle-class Cairo suburb of Giza, Mohamed el-Amir said he would like to see more attacks like the July 7 bombings of three London subway trains and a bus that killed 52 people, plus the four bombers.

Displayed prominently in the apartment were pictures of el-Amir's son, Mohamed Atta, the man who is believed to have piloted American Airlines Flight 11 into the north tower of the World Trade Center as part of the attacks on the United States.

El-Amir said the attacks in the United States and the July 7 attacks in London were the beginning of what would be a 50-year religious war, in which there would be many more fighters like his son.

He declared that terror cells around the world were a "nuclear bomb that has now been activated and is ticking."

The man, who gave his age as "at least 70," said he had no sorrow for what happened in London, and said there was a double standard in the way the world viewed the victims in London and victims in the Muslim world.

Cursing in Arabic, el-Amir also denounced Arab leaders and Muslims who condemned the London attacks as being traitors and non-Muslims.

He passionately vowed that he would do anything within his power to encourage more attacks.

When asked if he would allow a CNN crew to videotape another interview with him, el-Amir said he would give his permission -- for a price of $5,000.

That money, he said, would not be kept for himself, but would be donated to someone to carry out another terror attack.

El-Amir said that $5,000 was about how much it would cost to finance another attack in London.

A lawyer by trade, el-Amir had a sign on his apartment door saying he was a consultant.

The security guard for the apartment building said el-Amir had been under surveillance by Egyptian agents for several months after the September 11 attacks, but no one had been watching him recently.

[sailor]

Originally posted by RADiSTAR
Atta's father praises London bombs

CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- The father of one of the hijackers who commandeered the first plane that crashed into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, praised the recent terror attacks in London and said many more would follow.

Speaking to CNN Producer Ayman Mohyeldin Tuesday in his apartment in the upper-middle-class Cairo suburb of Giza, Mohamed el-Amir said he would like to see more attacks like the July 7 bombings of three London subway trains and a bus that killed 52 people, plus the four bombers.

Displayed prominently in the apartment were pictures of el-Amir's son, Mohamed Atta, the man who is believed to have piloted American Airlines Flight 11 into the north tower of the World Trade Center as part of the attacks on the United States.

El-Amir said the attacks in the United States and the July 7 attacks in London were the beginning of what would be a 50-year religious war, in which there would be many more fighters like his son.

He declared that terror cells around the world were a "nuclear bomb that has now been activated and is ticking."

The man, who gave his age as "at least 70," said he had no sorrow for what happened in London, and said there was a double standard in the way the world viewed the victims in London and victims in the Muslim world.

Cursing in Arabic, el-Amir also denounced Arab leaders and Muslims who condemned the London attacks as being traitors and non-Muslims.

He passionately vowed that he would do anything within his power to encourage more attacks.

When asked if he would allow a CNN crew to videotape another interview with him, el-Amir said he would give his permission -- for a price of $5,000.

That money, he said, would not be kept for himself, but would be donated to someone to carry out another terror attack.

El-Amir said that $5,000 was about how much it would cost to finance another attack in London.

A lawyer by trade, el-Amir had a sign on his apartment door saying he was a consultant.

The security guard for the apartment building said el-Amir had been under surveillance by Egyptian agents for several months after the September 11 attacks, but no one had been watching him recently.

another sick freak son of satan only steps away from a fiery reunion with his master.

[Kerry Jones]

send the us government in to make him "disappear".

[linuxtechdude]

I read this on CNN as well today and think it is very sick.. I do not see how people like this exist.

[indiaberry]

Sick! Sick! Sick people!
I thought the muslim religion was about peace....

[Kerry Jones]

I read this on CNN as well today and think it is very sick.. I do not see how people like this exist.

Call it blind faith.

[sailor]

Originally posted by indiaberry
Sick! Sick! Sick people!
I thought the muslim religion was about peace....

it is - however they have some wierdos at the moment that are creating problems for the rest of them. just like the christian religion is about peace - however we from time to time have people that do bad things as well - like eric rudolph the olympic bomber that blew up people in the name of god - lol


so its not the religion - its a group of very misguided individuals. the rest of the religion needs to get after them though and police their own - so the rest of the world does not have to - as you can see it is starting to give the religion or a sect of it a very bad name.

[Acroplex]

Well-sair sailor.

[sailor]

Originally posted by RADiSTAR
Well-sair sailor.

ah - why thank you much kind sir
said in a mark twain southern drawl

[trau]

Originally posted by sailor
so its not the religion - its a group of very misguided individuals. the rest of the religion needs to get after them though and police their own - so the rest of the world does not have to - as you can see it is starting to give the religion or a sect of it a very bad name.

Very well said. The peaceful majority needs to denounce these animals.

To the father I have only one question, if blowing yourself up is such a wonderful thing to do for Allah then why on earth is he "at least 70". He should blow himself up to show Allah how much he loves him.

[DevilDog]

The thing you need to understand about Islam is that Islam teaches whatever the local Imam or Mullah says that it teaches. It's not as if we can just take the Koran, read it for ourselves, and then explain to Mr. el-Amir: "Don't you know that this is now what Islam teaches?" In fact, he is merely parotting what his local clerics are preaching to him and many others in the Middle East.

It is not quite as simple as even other clerics condemning the issue. Moslem clerics in the West can condemn it but they have not real traction as they are viewed by other schools of thought as not teaching real Islam.

My point here is not to say "Ah! See this is what Islam is about..." but merely to say that it is not so easy to also say "This guy is off the reservation with respect to what Islam teaches..."

Consider Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, aka "The Blind Sheik", who is the cleric behind the first WTC bombings in 1993. Years previously he was arrested and tried in Egypt for terrorist acts against the government. He was, in fact, considered a leading scholar at Al Azhar University, one of the leading schools of Islam in the Middle East. The school is considered authoratative for Islamic teaching by many in the Middle East. Let's just say that his teachings were not inconsistent with what was and still is taught at the school.

Anyhow, when tried for his terrorist crimes the Attorney General, during cross examination was condemning his actions as being out of concert with Islam. "Islam is a religion of peace and condemns such actions." Ahman's response was "Where do you read that in the Koran..." and proceeded to demonstrate how his actions were in accord with Islam.

In conclusion, you see a tension within Islam itself (in fact, Shia and Sunnis are very much different but even within the Sunni sect there is much disagreement. To simply chalk it up to a few guys that don't know what the religion teaches misses a larger problem - it's what they're taught and firmly believe Islam teaches.

Or have we already forgotten the video of thousands of Palestinians dancing in the streets when they saw the video of the WTC buildings crumbling to the ground?

[trau]

Devildog, you may very well be right. But for now I am still giving them the benefit of doubt. Each time there is one of these incidents various Muslims get on TV and say that the majority of Muslims are against this violence (even though you never see them demonstrate for peace, or have large groups speaking against it). But I know my patience is wearing thin and I suspect the rest of the worlds as well. If the so called peaceful majority of Muslims don't speak up, people will become convinced they are all in favor of these actions.

[blue27]

Trau, when you found out about the treatment of prisoners at Abu Graib did you go out and join a protest?

[DevilDog]

I'm not arguing that other Muslims should not speak out but I was trying to explain Islam to those who may be ignorant of how it really works. I had no other motivation nor do I wish to dissuade anyone from condemning it. I believe his beliefs and actions to be evil and he will answer for them someday.

[trau]

Originally posted by blue27
Trau, when you found out about the treatment of prisoners at Abu Graib did you go out and join a protest?

Nope. The soldiers that violated policy are being dealt with. If the soldiers had done what the peaceful muslim freedom fighters did with their civilian prisoners (hack their heads off with a dull knife) I would have protested.