View Poll Results: Should the U.N. have control over the Internet, or should the U.S. control?

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  • The United States should keep control.

    27 50.00%
  • The U.N. should control it.

    5 9.26%
  • An International Non-prof should be created to control it.

    19 35.19%
  • I don't care!

    3 5.56%
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    U.N. Panel Presents 4 Internet Options

    I never realized that the internet was such a big topic with the United Nations. This article is interesting. http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050715/D8BBO8U00.html
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    Ack! The U.N. with control over the Internet? A scary thought, indeed!

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    o no..the UN will take over the world
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    This might sound short-sighted, but I don't believe anyone should control the Internet.

    The Internet is a bunch of peoples' private networks hooked together. It wasn't government built, or (particularly) taxpayer-funded.

    On the other hand, some regulating body isn't a horrible idea: there could be big problems if people make up their own IPs and domain names, the "Internet" for one person might be entirely different from another.

    Ugh, this isn't so simple, is it?

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    At this point, I believe a regulatory body is necessary, but I don't believe it belongs in the hands of an American agency, specifically. If some magically impartial, nonprofit regulatory organization were to take control of things, I would be content, but every supposedly nonprofit organization has its own agenda -- whether it's restricting access to "sensitive" material, enforcing more and stricter policies, or collecting more information from its participants.

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    The internet should be regulated by an independent body but only for things like domain names, ip etc but not the actual content of it.

    I know its a bad example I am giving here but here goes... its like traffic police regulating the traffic making sure drivers are on the right lane, wearing seat belts and not drinking etc but what car the driver is driving should not matter to them.

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    i think it should be an independant body; i dont think it should be monitoroed or censored actually, i mean its the free exchange of information ;p
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    Imagine if Bill Gates controlled the Internet. That deserves a lol.

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    The internet would not be where it is today without Gates. Granted, somebody else would have eventually built such a system. However, he built it first. If someone had done it even ten years later, we would currently be 10 years behind where we are now..

    Granted, somebody "might" have built a better system, or it could have been worse. They could have been more lenient, or they could have been more controlling..

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    USA

    What change something that doesn't need change?

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    In order of preference:

    1. USA maintain control
    2. International Non-Profit Org
    3. Almost anyone else
    4. Neighbors dog
    5 .....
    absolute last choice, UN
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    Originally posted by trau
    In order of preference:

    1. USA maintain control
    2. International Non-Profit Org
    3. Almost anyone else
    4. Neighbors dog
    5 .....
    absolute last choice, UN
    Shhh!!!!!!!!!!! Now the UN will say "well, at least we're ON THE LIST!"


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    Isn't the whole idea of the internet to have it completely decentralized, so that no one controls it?

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    Originally posted by owocki
    Isn't the whole idea of the internet to have it completely decentralized, so that no one controls it?
    What's wrong with how it's setup right now?

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    Originally posted by Rob83
    Shhh!!!!!!!!!!! Now the UN will say "well, at least we're ON THE LIST!"

    True, but they'd have to fight the neighbors dog over it and she's smarter then them.
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    I think the neighbor's dog is a good choice.

    Honestly, why mess with something that apparantly works so well.
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    Originally posted by owocki
    Isn't the whole idea of the internet to have it completely decentralized, so that no one controls it?
    Somebody has to control it in one way or another, though. We need ICANN to control domain names. We need the root servers to hold the information for said domain names. We need ARIN and RIPE and APNIC and all of the other registries to control IP addresses. It just so happens that most of these organizations are situated in the United States, with the exception of RIPE, APNIC, and the other international number registries.

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    Originally posted by SW-Ray
    Somebody has to control it in one way or another, though. We need ICANN to control domain names. We need the root servers to hold the information for said domain names. We need ARIN and RIPE and APNIC and all of the other registries to control IP addresses. It just so happens that most of these organizations are situated in the United States, with the exception of RIPE, APNIC, and the other international number registries.
    Good point. But that being said, it's not like one centralized organization controls the internet.

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    The root zone server operators[1], collectively, exert the most "control" over the internet. Luckily for us, the operators take their jobs as stewards very seriously and today we enjoy a very robust DNS (13 root operators, most with lots of machines located throughout the world).

    The US Department of Commerce controls very top level changes to the root, which seems to be the primary objection of governments elsewhere in the world, hence this UN process to discuss "Internet Governance".

    The WGIG report offers WSIS 4 models for "Internet Governance", but of course, nothing says WSIS won't consider other models, or move on to other discourses without doing anything. It remains to be seen

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    [1] That is, operators of the US DoC-controlled root, which is what most Americans think of as "the internet". There are other roots, and operators who run zone servers in those other roots.
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    Isn't the UN an international non-profit organisation? So what's the difference between option 2 and 3?
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    Originally posted by Knogle
    Isn't the UN an international non-profit organisation? So what's the difference between option 2 and 3?
    The UN also handles other affairs, option #3 would make a special organization just for the Internet and they'd probably be a board of directors from different countries (identical to the setup of the UN).

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    Best I can think of, IANA controls the 'net, the US certainly does not. Beyond that, nobody really "controls" the Internet, any country can potentially delink at any given time (in theory) and there would definatly be issues surrounding such a decision, but its not like the 'net would stop working all of a sudden, nor is it possible for any country (the US included) to force action over the 'net, etc.
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    Originally posted by fog
    This might sound short-sighted, but I don't believe anyone should control the Internet.

    The Internet is a bunch of peoples' private networks hooked together. It wasn't government built, or (particularly) taxpayer-funded.

    On the other hand, some regulating body isn't a horrible idea: there could be big problems if people make up their own IPs and domain names, the "Internet" for one person might be entirely different from another.

    Ugh, this isn't so simple, is it?
    that is incorrect. it was funded - researched and built by the us governement. it was set up to be a network of communication that could survive a nuclear war. then it was allowed to proliferate to private enterprise and then allowed to proliferate internationally.
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