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  1. #1
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    Chpass.com and Ispeeds.net

    Today I was sitting minding my own business and went to dcc a bot in my channel, kthnx. I accidentally typo'd and tried to dcc kthx a bot in #chpass. Wow remind me NOT to do that again. Within seconds I received the following msg from that "bot".


    Session Start: Sun Jul 10 17:44:01 2005
    Session Ident: kthx
    [17:44] Session Ident: kthx (die@k-thx.biz)
    [17:44] <kthx> and may I ask why ur dccing me?
    Session Close: Sun Jul 10 17:45:43 2005

    I ignored that not thinking much of it. I whois'd on receiving the message and realized my mistake but was busy and continued along my business until I received THIS msg.....


    Session Start: Sun Jul 10 17:51:45 2005
    Session Ident: kthx
    [17:51] Session Ident: kthx (die@k-thx.biz)
    [17:51] <kthx> ms kelly a hallissey... you still at 700 meadowview dr treating you, over there in mansfield? or did you move to vegas?

    ::inserts whois for those of you who would be interested:::

    kthx is die@k-thx.biz * Make it so.
    kthx on @#p @#google @#redhat @#linuxchat @#felon @#trojan @#drones @#trojans @#alphabet @#packeting @#clones @#* @#+o @#chpass @#fdc
    kthx using irc.mzima.net Welcome to the fjear nation.
    kthx is away: is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog Off]
    kthx End of /WHOIS list.

    The log continues....

    [17:52] <Kelz> LOL you are a bit behind the times
    [17:52] <kthx> yeah that was a old one...
    [17:53] <Kelz> which dumb**** are you?
    [17:53] <kthx> that's ok.. 239 31 xxxx... you are pwned for life (edited as it is my real social security #)
    [17:53] <kthx> stop playing games with your betters
    [17:53] <Kelz> actually
    [17:53] <Kelz> Id say you are ;D
    [17:53] <Kelz> but its chill ;D
    [17:56] <kthx> 11197 tuscolana st.. neh?
    [17:56] <Kelz> long since left
    [17:56] <Kelz> keep trying loser
    [18:01] <Kelz> is that the best you can do?
    [18:11] <Kelz> kthx is die@k-thx.biz * Make it so.
    [18:11] <Kelz> kthx on @#p @#google @#redhat @#linuxchat @#felon @#trojan @#drones @#trojans @#alphabet @#packeting @#clones @#* @#+o @#chpass @#fdc
    [18:11] <Kelz> kthx using irc.mzima.net Welcome to the fjear nation.
    [18:11] <Kelz> kthx is away: is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog Off]
    [18:11] <Kelz> kthx End of /WHOIS list.
    [18:11] <Kelz> why were you harrassing me?
    [18:11] <kthx> and why were u dccing me?
    [18:11] <Kelz> I made a typo
    [18:11] <Kelz> sue me
    [18:12] <Kelz> why did you change hostmasks to paste me my social?
    [18:12] <kthx> Well, I thought u dropped that box
    [18:12] <kthx> so I assumed the nick here
    [18:12] <kthx> I wasn't the one
    [18:12] <Kelz> So you decided to drop my dox while not on gige so I couldn't do ****?
    [18:12] <kthx> talking to you
    [18:13] <Kelz> Its a domain your company owns
    [18:13] <Kelz> and its oped in your channel
    [18:13] <kthx> ya, so? u were dccing a bot
    [18:13] <Kelz> So are you denying you pasted my social back to me?
    [18:14] <Kelz> [17:51] <kthx> ms kelly a hallissey... you still at 700 meadowview dr treating you, over there in mansfield? or did you move to vegas?
    [18:14] <Kelz> [17:52] <Kelz> LOL you are a bit behind the times
    [18:14] <Kelz> [17:52] <kthx> yeah that was a old one...
    [18:14] <Kelz> [17:53] <Kelz> which dumb**** are you?
    [18:14] <Kelz> [17:53] <kthx> that's ok.. 239 31 xxxx (edited)... you are pwned for life
    [18:14] <Kelz> you claiming thats NOT YOU?
    [18:14] <kthx> yes, but it is someone else on my net that I will not disclose.
    [18:14] <Kelz> You will have to.
    [18:14] <Kelz> Enjoy.
    [18:14] <kthx> nope, never.
    Session Close: Sun Jul 10 18:15:00 2005

    Wow what a nice group of folks, I joined their channel and was banned on join. So I ask my friends to help me find their uplink, its on ispeeds.net and their uplink is velcom.com, but the nameserver for the domain is chpass.com, now here's where it gets interesting, I msged chpass the owner and asked why this was going on, he wasn't idle but chose not to answer.

    chpass is adv@get.your.shell.at.chpass.com * www.chpass.com - stable/reliable undroppable shell
    chpass on #vcd #god +#gangsta-vibez +#XDCC-FILES +#chpass +#mp3dcc +#0day-Xdcc +#bootlegcentral +#metalmetal
    chpass using irc.nac.net I have a poisonous friend
    chpass has been idle 6mins 19secs, signed on Sun Jul 10 17:20:20
    chpass End of /WHOIS list.

    So I'm sitting here composing my abuse email and then the msgs start again but this time the host has changed, its the ADMIN FOR CHPASS.COM.

    kthx is passwd@admin.chpass.com * www.chpass.com
    kthx on @#p @#wheel @#hacking @#packet @#hacker @#hackers @#elite @#ninja @#felon @#trojan @#drones @#trojans @#alphabet @#packeting @#decrypt @#encrypt @#clones @#* @#chpass @#stoners @#google @#teenchat @#exploit @#linuxchat @#redhat @#/<-rad @#god @#gawd @#ircparty @#fdc
    kthx using irc.efnet.nl Business Internet Trends IPv4/IPv6 EFNet server
    kthx End of /WHOIS list.

    Session Start: Sun Jul 10 18:15:25 2005
    Session Ident: kthx
    [18:15] Session Ident: kthx (passwd@admin.chpass.com)
    [18:15] <kthx> Just remember, u start messing with me, I won't give up till I own u for life.
    [18:15] <kthx> Bitch.
    [18:15] <Kelz> Oh threaten me
    [18:15] <Kelz> please
    [18:16] <kthx> lol
    [18:16] <Kelz> Pussy bitch hiding behind a bot to talk your ****
    [18:16] <Kelz> the bot in obs is kthnx
    [18:16] <Kelz> the keyboard on this laptop sucks
    [18:16] <Kelz> Now since you want to play I'll play
    [18:16] <kthx> wait a sec
    [18:16] <kthx> thats bryan's bot
    [18:16] <kthx> isn't it
    [18:16] <Kelz> No **** you dumb****
    [18:17] <kthx> look
    [18:17] <Kelz> No YOU look
    [18:17] <kthx> lets end this ****
    [18:17] <kthx> as there is no need for it
    [18:17] <Kelz> I am sick of your channel harrassing me
    [18:17] <Kelz> NO NEED?
    [18:17] <Kelz> YOU dropped my social
    [18:17] <Kelz> *I* didn't do **** except TYPO
    [18:17] <kthx> I did not drop your social.
    [18:17] <kthx> someone else did.
    [18:17] <Kelz> Your bot did
    [18:17] <Kelz> and I'll let your uplinks deal with it
    [18:17] <kthx> lol
    [18:17] <kthx> well
    [18:18] <kthx> enjoy
    [18:18] <Kelz> yeah
    [18:18] <Kelz> I'll do that
    [18:18] <kthx> cuz If I hear anymore of this
    [18:18] <kthx> ur **** is gonna be pasted to everyone
    [18:18] <kthx> including ur credit report.
    [18:18] <kthx> so
    [18:18] <kthx> its ur choice
    [18:18] <kthx>
    [18:19] <Kelz> =)
    [18:19] <Kelz> thanks kiddie
    Session Close: Sun Jul 10 18:19:51 2005

    So the admin of chpass.com has done a credit report on me, how sweet. And threatens me from his gigeserver box.

    Session Start: Sun Jul 10 18:20:06 2005
    Session Ident: kthx
    [18:20] Session Ident: kthx (passwd@admin.chpass.com)
    [18:20] <kthx> On the other hand, I could just take that u dcc'd my bot accidentally, and ummm, I'll keep my people away from ur ****, and this can end right here and now.
    [18:20] <kthx> cuz really, I don't have a real beef with u yet.
    [18:20] <kthx> so why start?
    [18:22] <kthx> Just don't get me started.
    [18:23] <Kelz> talk to your uplinks

    How sweet, he offered me an "out" of being "owned".

    I emailed in an abuse complaint and got accused by ispeed aka passwd, of packeting their box, I asked if this is how they handled abuse complaints (full volley of emails are available for those who are interested) and then received a msg on efnet from them on a proxy, you guys will love this.


    Session Start: Sun Jul 10 19:27:17 2005
    Session Ident: KnightAZY
    [19:27] Session Ident: KnightAZY (~kny@194.186.226.84)
    [19:27] <KnightAZY> hey your daughter is such a whore, i ****ed that slut in the *** last night, so ****ing young and such a whore geez what are u teacher ur daughter
    [19:27] <Brattie> wow nice thing to say about a 7 year old
    [19:27] <Brattie> feel proud of yourself?
    [19:28] <KnightAZY> your daughter is such a little ****, you gotta teachj that whore some manners otherwise she will group up to be a huge slut just like she is now
    [19:28] <Brattie> Aren't you elite ;D
    [19:28] <Brattie> talking **** about a little kid
    [19:28] <KnightAZY> yea i got an elite **** and it was in your daughters pussy
    [19:29] <Brattie> sounds like yer upset about losign yo9ur shell
    [19:29] <Brattie> poor baby
    [19:30] <KnightAZY> lol what shell
    [19:30] <KnightAZY> im not upset about anything im just letting you know that you got a slut for a daughter
    [19:30] <Brattie> dude
    [19:30] <Brattie> my kids 7 years old and hasn't been out of my sight in months so stfu with your ********
    [19:30] <Brattie> its lame and stupid
    [19:31] <KnightAZY> haha its not ********, you knows its the truth and thats why you are pissed AHAHHAHA
    [19:31] <KnightAZY> go check her pussy you will see it has been deflowered
    [19:31] * Brattie clicks on ignore
    [19:32] <KnightAZY> AHHHAHH did the whore get mad?
    Session Close: Sun Jul 10 19:41:10 2005

    But alas, that's not been the end of it. I shortly thereafter received this msg....

    Session Start: Sun Jul 10 20:10:13 2005
    Session Ident: passwds
    [20:10] Session Ident: passwds (passwd@admin.chpass.com)
    [20:10] <passwds> Thanks, I enjoyed reading your email - was quite entertaining.
    [20:10] <Kelz> I'm sure the uplinks enjoyed them too.
    [20:11] <passwds> hell ya
    [20:11] <Kelz> Their responses haven't been so supportive of you.
    [20:11] <passwds> Good luck
    [20:11] <Kelz> Enjoying talking about raping my kid?
    [20:11] <passwds> fake logs
    [20:11] <passwds> tsk tsk
    [20:11] <Kelz> Seems you are a great guy
    [20:12] <Kelz> The logs are saved, unedited and the owner of at least one of those uplinks knows I don't fake logs.
    [20:12] <passwds> hahahahaha
    [20:12] <passwds> stupid bitch.
    [20:12] <Kelz> Seems to me you are the stupid one
    [20:13] <passwds> You're gonna so regret ****ing with me, and faking logs.
    [20:13] <passwds> tsk tsk
    [20:13] <Kelz> I haven't faked anything and you well know it
    [20:13] <Kelz> Why don't you make some more threats?
    [20:14] <passwds> hahahaha
    [20:14] <Kelz> Oh wait
    [20:14] <Kelz> you just did
    [20:14] <passwds> I don't need to make ANY threats =)
    [20:14] <Kelz> why am I going to regret it?
    [20:14] <passwds> cuz ur fat?
    [20:14] <passwds>
    [20:14] <Kelz> How old are you? 12?
    [20:15] <passwds> no, 13
    [20:15] <Kelz> Grow up little boy.
    [20:15] <passwds> 13/F/U
    [20:15] <passwds> haha
    [20:15] <passwds> EOF
    [20:16] <Kelz> Doesn't seem like any of my clients have that quit atm
    [20:17] * Kelz yawns

    The fact that this company has had multiple users harassing me, spamming my social security #, etc over the last month has been my problem.

    The fact that the admins are now doing it and will do similar things to their customers should they "piss them off" is yours.

    I have yet to receive a response from velcom or gigeservers. They were notified 4 hours ago.

    I am sure gigeservers will handle it appropriately but velcom is an unknown to me, for now.

    These logs are available as both the buffer logs I saved as well as the true mirc logs, all dated and timestamped appropriately.

    I strongly suggest you chose where you do your business carefully when dealing with either of these shell providers.

    Sincerely,

    Kelly Hallissey

    PS I left off the part about the box admin, a different one, xmage, joining my channel on a nick that he juped after it was packetted down and claiming that the admin.chpass* and other hostmask had no ties to them even though they housed the nameserver for it and its their companies name lol.
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  2. #2
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    Kelly Hallissey,
    I know your trying to show yourself as all innocent, but i have firewall logs of you attempting to DDoS the individual in question. So, its to your benefit not to bring this up in WHT. What you did was immature, and of course not legal.
    I keep trying to pull myself away from this, and of course you keep brining this up everywhere.
    Velcom is not going to reply to you; the buck stops here. If there's something going on, you should have come to *me* in the first place, *not* DDoS my IPs. You attempting to ruin Ispeeds' reputation is not going to get you anywhere.
    have a nice day.
    Last edited by TheTrance; 07-11-2005 at 12:47 AM.
    Ben S.
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  3. #3
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    I see you are the "packet specialist" not I. Unless you have some proof that *I* originated a dos attack or had someone do it on my behalf, all you have posted is slander to get yourself and your company off the hook. Provide a log of me asking for it to be done or of me initiating a ddos command.

    Nice way to handle your customer ip phreaking my info. Says a lot about you as a host.

    Kelly
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  4. #4
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    I have pretty solid evidance that you are the individual behind all of this. Lets not forget that you, indirectly hinted this out in your emails to me as well. There is no question about that. Your chat (argument) logs with the client in question, and my firewall logs match perfectly, so does the IP address in question, given that it was not in use by anyone else at the time of the attack.
    I would be more than happy to help you but, but sorry, you scewed up by getting your buddies to packet my server before contacting me.
    I replied to your abuse@ emails in less than 30 minutes. I think i did everything i could, and i would have resolved this, if you werent DDoSing my server. but you picked the wrong path. We in no way support packet kiddies and as i said in the email, you are on your own.
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    Kelly Hallissey,
    I know your trying to show yourself as all innocent, but i have firewall logs of you attempting to DDoS the individual in question. So, its to your benefit not to bring this up in WHT. What you did was immature, and of course not legal.
    I keep trying to pull myself away from this, and of course you keep brining this up everywhere.
    Velcom is not going to reply to you; the buck stops here. If there's something going on, you should have come to *me* in the first place, *not* DDoS my IPs. You attempting to ruin Ispeeds' reputation is not going to get you anywhere.
    have a nice day.
    TheTrance,

    Have you any proof of her actually attacking you or is this pure speculation?

    I seriously doubt Kelly would go denial of service attacking anyone in fact she has aided in prevently some attacks. In any case I do hope that such situations are resolved properly and do not get out of hand.

    -Justin
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  6. #6
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    Psst.....

    If I can drop you from my dialup you should hang your head in shame for having such a lousy company!
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    Justin,
    yes i actually do; I have no intention to lie, or be against her. I dont even know who she is. I am not saying she did it, but she has most likely got someone to "take care" of the client in question.
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  8. #8
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    Originally posted by TheTrance
    I have pretty solid evidance that you are the individual behind all of this. Lets not forget that you, indirectly hinted this out in your emails to me as well. There is no question about that. Your chat (argument) logs with the client in question, and my firewall logs match perfectly, so does the IP address in question, given that it was not in use by anyone else at the time of the attack.
    I would be more than happy to help you but, but sorry, you scewed up by getting your buddies to packet my server before contacting me.
    I replied to your abuse@ emails in less than 30 minutes. I think i did everything i could, and i would have resolved this, if you werent DDoSing my server. but you picked the wrong path. We in no way support packet kiddies and as i said in the email, you are on your own.
    I hinted at it? Let me post the emails then so you can point that out, amazin how you point the finger at me to obscure your customers breaking the LAW because he is YOUR ADMIN.
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  9. #9
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    Why not just post the logs here? Seems pretty stupid to just repeatedly claim that she DoSed you and thats why you didnt do anything.

    You should be able to prove it. Posts logs with time stamps. Posts the emails that you claim were insinuating DoS on your servers. If you cant show anything to back up this claim then dont even bother making it.

    As far as i can see, the evidence shown by Kelly seems to prove the unprofessionalism of the hosts harboring these kiddies.
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    Originally posted by Kelly Hallissey
    I hinted at it? Let me post the emails then so you can point that out, amazin how you point the finger at me to obscure your customers breaking the LAW because he is YOUR ADMIN.
    quote from your previous email:
    "...That's not saying "Dos this" and its not my fault someone chose to hit it due to it, as far as *I* know the box never dropped,"
    I wonder why you were so anxious to know if it dropped or not. Makes me wonder.

    Also i will make it clear here that i *am* the owner, and the admin. I am the one you should talk to, don't involve anyone else.
    Ben S.
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  11. #11
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    Subj: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 6:29:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: Bellevue Refugee
    To: ben@ispeeds.net, abuse@ispeeds.net
    CC: netadmin@velcom.com

    _
    Dear Sir/Madam:
    _
    My name is Kelly Hallissey, today due to a typo on my behalf, I accidentally tried to dcc the nick kthx as opposed to kthnx._ Kthx was on your network and proceeded to paste my social security # to me as well as former addresses and threatened to spam my credit report.
    _
    These parties own various shell provider boxes and I DEMAND immediate removal from your network for this blatant abuse by the owners of these companies.
    _
    Attached are logs from the conversation.
    _
    Sincerely,
    _
    Kelly Hallissey
    _
    kthx is die@k-thx.biz * Make it so.
    kthx on @#p @#google @#redhat @#linuxchat @#felon @#trojan @#drones @#trojans @#alphabet @#packeting @#clones @#* @#+o @#chpass @#fdc
    kthx using irc.mzima.net Welcome to the fjear nation.
    kthx is away: is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog Off]
    kthx End of /WHOIS list.
    -
    _
    _
    kthx is passwd@admin.chpass.com * www.chpass.com
    kthx on @#p @#wheel @#hacking @#packet @#hacker @#hackers @#elite @#ninja @#felon @#trojan @#drones @#trojans @#alphabet @#packeting @#decrypt @#encrypt @#clones @#* @#chpass @#stoners @#google @#teenchat @#exploit @#linuxchat @#redhat @#/<-rad @#god @#gawd @#ircparty @#fdc
    kthx using irc.efnet.nl Business Internet Trends IPv4/IPv6 EFNet server
    kthx End of /WHOIS list.
    -

    (attached logs)

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 7:18:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: ben@ispeeds.net
    To: BellevueRefugee@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)

    _
    Next time come talk to me before you try to packet my servers.

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 7:19:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: Bellevue Refugee
    To: ben@ispeeds.net

    _
    In a message dated 7/10/2005 7:18:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ben@ispeeds.net writes:

    Next time come talk to me before you try to packet my servers.


    Umm I don't packet, if it got hit it wasn't me.

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 7:28:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: ben@ispeeds.net
    To: BellevueRefugee@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)

    _
    sure you didnt.

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 7:43:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: Bellevue Refugee
    To: ben@ispeeds.net

    _
    In a message dated 7/10/2005 7:28:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ben@ispeeds.net writes:

    sure you didnt.


    Nice abuse response, got to love responsible admins.

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 8:06:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: ben@ispeeds.net
    To: BellevueRefugee@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)

    _
    I am responding to your "abuse" report. The fact is that, if you had
    contacted me before you got your pals to packet him down, i would have
    helped you. I responded to your email in less than 30 minutes, however,
    you started this all the wrong way.

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 8:10:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: Bellevue Refugee
    To: ben@ispeeds.net

    _
    In a message dated 7/10/2005 8:06:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ben@ispeeds.net writes:

    I am responding to your "abuse" report. The fact is that, if you had
    contacted me before you got your pals to packet him down, i would have
    helped you. I responded to your email in less than 30 minutes, however,
    you started this all the wrong way.


    *I* didn't dos anyone down, I pasted the conversation in a channel and asked wtf it was, that's it._ I couldn't traceroute from here to find the uplink and asked someone to traceroute it for me (the isp here blocks traceroute, ping, etc)._ That's not saying "Dos this" and its not my fault someone chose to hit it due to it, as far as *I* know the box never dropped, you saying the box got dropped is the first I have heard of it._ And frankly, if you allow your users to do crap like that from your box then why are you so shocked someone did hit it?_ Seems to me that the weight is on the person who pasted my social security #, not me.
    _
    Now that same person is harrassing me from various shells talking about raping my 7 year old._ Really nice.

    Subj: Re: User phreaking my social security number and info from your service_
    Date: 7/10/2005 8:19:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time
    From: ben@ispeeds.net
    To: BellevueRefugee@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)

    _
    of course it didn't get dropped, but while your buddies were doing it, it
    happened that i was monitoring the traffic. Guess what, there are not a
    lot of users on that particular server and no one else was using the IP
    address assigned to that client.
    I am not shocked that the IP got hit, no, thats normal for IRC. However, i
    am shocked that *you* came to me eventhough you have packetted him. I just
    don't want to get involved in this, please go ahead and resolve your
    issues with the client in question.
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    I see no insinuation, I see no proof, I see no logs of dos attacks.

    What I DO see is you trying to cover your own tail end for what was done on your network.

    Pathetic
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    Kelly,
    thanks for the paste, but i already posted the part that everyone should've noticed.
    flameboy, please have a look at the end of kelly's paste of my email to her.
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    Originally posted by Kelly Hallissey
    I see no insinuation, I see no proof, I see no logs of dos attacks.

    What I DO see is you trying to cover your own tail end for what was done on your network.

    Pathetic
    I have absolutly nothing to cover; I didn't do anything illegal, I replied to your emails. Don't expect me to police IRC. I tried to help you, and i would have helped you if you were a bit more honest.
    I think i've said what needed to be said.
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    Hmm...

    I guess what is amazing to me at this point in our little story is around the same time that the admin of that provider is claiming ddos, there was a reported network hiccup on his host at gigeservers that affected more than just a few clients.

    Also, seeing how I know exactly where Ms. Hallissey is and exactly what provider she is currently using at this point, I find it also hard to believe that the provider in her area is strong enough to be able to be the attacker in a DDoS attack. The area doesn't even have workable DSL service.
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    It seems like your making a radical assumption that kelly dossed you and are basing inaction off of it.

    Let me get this straight. Because the host in question got attacked around the same time that this stuff happened, you are going to TOTALLY DISMISS the complaint about one of your customers?

    How does that even make sense? The fact that you got DoSed doesnt change the bad behavior by your client!
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    Guys, quite honestly i've said nothing but the truth here; it's really up to you to believe it or not; but again, all i am doing is stating the truth. Of course no one is going to be able to prove that she is the attackers, but when i look at what happened, it gives me a pretty STRONG evidance that she has been involved in this herself. you be the judge.
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    What I see is an admin making claims with no proof to back it all up.

    Start showing some logs buddy.
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    Originally posted by TheTrance
    flameboy, please have a look at the end of kelly's paste of my email to her.
    You haven't provided any proof that you have been DDoS'd by Ms. Hallissey as you have claimed.

    How can you claim to be the admin of a service if someone else on that service is using "admin.chpass.com" and its obviously not you who is using that host?

    Why not deal with those who are spamming personal information from your ips and then worry about the other nonsense another day? Or is it that those users have accounts on your box so as it is insurance against you getting ddossed by those people?
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    i am not related to chpass. We are talking about ispeeds.
    Ben S.
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    Wow how much longer is this going to go on? Is this really the place for this?
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    Where are the logs of this dos? Need more time to make them?
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    Originally posted by myrddin
    What I see is an admin making claims with no proof to back it all up.

    Start showing some logs buddy.
    reffer to my previous post.
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  24. #24
    Furthermore, even in this situation, the path YOU are choosing is wrong.
    Even IF Kelly did do what you claim, either intentional or not, the fact remains that you have an abusive admin on your network that needs to be dealt with.

    Your priority, instead of arguing that you think you were DDoSed, should be to fix the issue with that admin.

    What will keep him from doing this in the future?
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    Actually, it does belong here to simply show how a provider refuses to handle problem users.
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