hazing is ok as long it does not cause any harm to people. Like that stupid fraternity that got two of its members killed in California. Or it was one died and the other almost died or something like that.
Originally posted by ichris Just curious, why are you for it? I can't see a reason to be involved with it. Who benefits?
No one benefits from it. We had a chapter of our fraternity close down at UM a few years back for hazing. Served them right, especially after one of the pledges got shot in the testicles by a BB gun the brother swore wasn't loaded. It's not just a fraternity/sorority issue. it extend to practically all college organizations (many are far worse than members of the Greek system, but somehow don't get nearly as much negative press). I was hazed a bit when I was a pledge, but they soon figured out it wasn't all that fun to haze me - I don't get flustered in the face of others' stupidity and pettiness. When I was president, we did our share of practical joking, but we absolutely drew the line at any sign of physical/emotional abuse/trauma, and a few times had to severely punish brothers who were out of line.
There was no hazing outside of college organizations, no freshman v. senior thing going on. It was only within the 300+ organizations where these things took place - I'd say in probably half of them (30 were Greek).
I think someone who needs to haze others clearly defines themselves on social food chain a primitive. I think someone who defies hazing effectively is at the top in terms of his or her character. In my experience, the ones who were aggressive hazers were feared. The ones who put themselves above it were admired. I made my choice - which would you rather be?