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    Can Wireless Ever Be Secure ?

    I live in downtown Miami - filled with antennas now. I can
    fire my ISP and tap in to one easily but in checking out the
    purchase of a wireless card - I was told "there's no privacy---
    everything is up for grabs --- unless you sign in with a VPN
    service". That would cost about the same as my ISP.

    Is there a software way of protecting my privacy here ? I
    do bank online. Any suggestions appreciated.

    Ginny

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    Don't bank online on a free wifi connection. There is no privacy when you are on someone else's connection. If you want to be completely wireless (and a little safer) check out Verizon's Wireless Broadband for $80/mo. It's available in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale.

    Btw, I live in Kendall and there are ton of free wifis here too, but I wouldn't bank online with them!

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    Thanks Rob. Since you were the only reply out of 48 views, I'm
    guessing there is no software way to surf free wireless and
    be protected -- other than your suggestion -- just not doing
    online banking or credit card info deals.

    I wonder - is there a way also to do free telephoning without
    being connected to one of the carriers by some means of tapping
    a cell into WIFI ?

    As for Verizon broadband - I'm a starving college student trying
    to save even on low cost ISP fees - so $80 a month is not
    even in the ball park. Yes, I am sure your area of Miami IS
    also abundantly provided with antennas !

    Cheers,

    Ginny

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    Yes! Ginny, there is.
    Wi-Fi phones are about $200 or less, and you can make calls to USA, Canada, And most of europe for about 1.5-2 cents per minute. It's great

    http://www.voipsupply.com/product_in...roducts_id=346
    or
    http://www.voipsupply.com/product_in...02&ref=froogle
    +
    Voice service monthly such as www.vitatalk.com
    or
    Voice service pay-as-you-go such as www.stanaphone.com
    Last edited by MStar; 07-01-2005 at 09:11 PM.

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    I'm going to assume that when you bank online your bank will employ SSL.. which is your protection in this case.
    josh

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    You could also tap into a proxy which could secure your transmission on normal traffic as well.

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    It was my understanding that SSL "protects" the data in transit. If so, even if someone is packet sniffing you, the data would be useless, right?

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    Well the saying goes that nothing on the internet or indeed the internet itself is 100% secure so no a wireless connection is not secure but you have degree's dont you, I would agree with Rob and say that its probably not the best idea to bank online using a free to air wireless service.

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    Originally posted by Ginny
    I wonder - is there a way also to do free telephoning without
    being connected to one of the carriers by some means of tapping
    a cell into WIFI ?
    I believe companies like Cisco do offer a smaller handheld phone that uses 802.11 for connectivity, and obviously it is VoIP. So, this would be your solution, though the cost of the phone is very heavy. Couple hundred, last time I checked.
    josh

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    Originally posted by MGCJerry
    It was my understanding that SSL "protects" the data in transit. If so, even if someone is packet sniffing you, the data would be useless, right?
    Just like SSH, is encrypted. I'm not sure how the protcol exchanges its keys, but I would assume that with sniffing, it would be possible to decrypt the transmission, but difficult.

    Edit: Sorry I didn't notice I was posting twice in a row. I was just addressing one issue and saw another one I'd like to add to.
    josh

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    Thanks to you all. Gathered some ideas here. VOIP is a good
    phone idea ! And Taheri6 suggested going through a proxy -
    but to me (I'm a beginner here) - any firewall provider you
    have is a proxy but I don't think they can guard against
    privacy invasion on a public free wireless site.
    (Maybe I'm wrong on that - and if I am, then NORTON or
    Zone Labs would be adequate for protection - and I
    don't think that's the case. Anyone know ?

    Not banking online is good sense too. I guess with all freebies
    comes give and take.

    Ginny

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