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06-27-2005, 05:47 PM #1Web Hosting Guru
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Why Pings Are Slow For Top Tier Networks?
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.ch?ip=www.google.com
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.ch?ip=www.yahoo.com
have less than 3ms
Cogent netwoks have 30ms
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.c...rverpronto.com
But top tier DC are slower with 40ms
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.c...ayeredtech.com
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.c....theplanet.com
It is very sad to see that top tier networks are slower than
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06-27-2005, 06:04 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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That's not a fair comparison, as distance plays a role.
Sites like Google, and Yahoo are hosted in DCs around the globe allowing for fast access all over.
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06-27-2005, 11:32 PM #3Newbie
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Anything on a content network like Akamai should have low pings from just about any somewhat decent network.
3ms is extremely low. I'd say the IPs you're hitting are in the same building.
For a reality check... going round trip coast to coast across the US will take around 60ms on a good network.
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06-28-2005, 12:00 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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cool website - did not know it existed.
Pinging www.gnax.net [209.51.128.152]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 209.51.128.152 in 15ms [TTL=54]
Ping #2: Got reply from 209.51.128.152 in 15ms [TTL=54]
Ping #3: Got reply from 209.51.128.152 in 15ms [TTL=54]
Ping #4: Got reply from 209.51.128.152 in 15ms [TTL=54]
Done pinging www.gnax.net!
thanks - I am adding this to my bookmarks.
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06-28-2005, 12:22 AM #5Junior Guru Wannabe
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That's a neat website.
Pinging www.hudsondigital.net [8.7.49.12]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.3ms [TTL=57]
Ping #2: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.3ms [TTL=57]
Ping #3: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.2ms [TTL=57]
Ping #4: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.3ms [TTL=57]
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06-28-2005, 12:59 AM #6Web Hosting Guru
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That's that quality Level 3 transit you got, those are some killer ping times...
Originally posted by Hudson Digital
That's a neat website.
Pinging www.hudsondigital.net [8.7.49.12]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.3ms [TTL=57]
Ping #2: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.3ms [TTL=57]
Ping #3: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.2ms [TTL=57]
Ping #4: Got reply from 8.7.49.12 in 7.3ms [TTL=57]
Done pinging www.hudsondigital.net!
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06-28-2005, 12:30 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Looks like they are in the DC area..
Pinging 8.14.32.1 [8.14.32.1]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 7.1ms [TTL=249]
Ping #2: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 6.9ms [TTL=249]
Ping #3: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 7.0ms [TTL=249]
Ping #4: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 6.9ms [TTL=249]
Done pinging 8.14.32.1!
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06-28-2005, 12:32 PM #8Disabled
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Originally posted by sloop
Looks like they are in the DC area..
Pinging 8.14.32.1 [8.14.32.1]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 7.1ms [TTL=249]
Ping #2: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 6.9ms [TTL=249]
Ping #3: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 7.0ms [TTL=249]
Ping #4: Got reply from 8.14.32.1 in 6.9ms [TTL=249]
Done pinging 8.14.32.1!
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06-28-2005, 04:31 PM #9Backup Guru
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Pinging c-vl102-d1.acc.dca2.hopone.net [66.36.240.2]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 66.36.240.2 in 0.6ms [TTL=255]
Ping #2: Got reply from 66.36.240.2 in 0.6ms [TTL=255]
Ping #3: Got reply from 66.36.240.2 in 0.6ms [TTL=255]
Ping #4: Got reply from 66.36.240.2 in 0.6ms [TTL=255]
Done pinging c-vl102-d1.acc.dca2.hopone.net!
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06-28-2005, 08:57 PM #10THE Web Hosting Master
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There are a ton of sites you can run traces/pings from, http://www.traceroute.org is your friend.
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06-28-2005, 09:03 PM #11Eternal Member
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Pinging zeonfx.com [207.58.141.43]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 207.58.141.43 in 3.4ms [TTL=55]
Ping #2: Got reply from 207.58.141.43 in 3.3ms [TTL=55]
Ping #3: Got reply from 207.58.141.43 in 3.2ms [TTL=55]
Ping #4: Got reply from 207.58.141.43 in 3.2ms [TTL=55]
Done pinging zeonfx.com!
In all seriouness, the above pings are not bad at all. This all has to do with distance and those are *not* 'slow'.
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06-29-2005, 12:51 AM #12Web Hosting Master
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I didn't know dnsstuff was news but yeah they're on a dedicated 100mbps line at hopone
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06-29-2005, 07:31 AM #13WHT Addict
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You cant ping from one location and use that to compare!
Latency changes very much over distance. It depends where the tier 1 location is you are pinging.Neil R Bowen - WHC
All posts are of my own personal view and not neccesarily those of any company, this is a personal forum account and all comments are assumptions and may not be fact.
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06-29-2005, 09:30 AM #14Disabled
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06-29-2005, 10:09 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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Re: Why Pings Are Slow For Top Tier Networks?
Originally posted by qllonceagain
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.ch?ip=www.google.com
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.ch?ip=www.yahoo.com
have less than 3ms
Cogent netwoks have 30ms
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.c...rverpronto.com
But top tier DC are slower with 40ms
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.c...ayeredtech.com
http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.c....theplanet.com
It is very sad to see that top tier networks are slower thanReyner Natahamidjaja
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07-02-2005, 10:08 PM #16Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by CyanoX
I don't understand how someone who has been registered on this forums for almost a year, and has that many posts, hasn't yet gotten that everything isn't located in one location?
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07-03-2005, 10:53 PM #17Junior Guru
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I see some very nice results to our main Sitelutions site...
Pinging www.sitelutions.com [66.117.40.20]:
Ping #1: Got reply from 66.117.40.20 in 2.1ms [TTL=58]
Ping #2: Got reply from 66.117.40.20 in 1.9ms [TTL=58]
Ping #3: Got reply from 66.117.40.20 in 2.0ms [TTL=58]
Ping #4: Got reply from 66.117.40.20 in 2.0ms [TTL=58]
Done pinging www.sitelutions.com!
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07-03-2005, 11:10 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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yahoo and google use dns tricks to point you to the closet server to your connection.
When you test places like TP and LT your testing against a static location also LT and TP do not represent the top tier networks in everyones eyes.
I would test a wider variety:
www.ev1.net
www.gnax.com
www.he.net
www.servermatrix.com
www.cihost.com
www.valueweb.com
www.1and1.com
www.rackspace.com
That list should give you a better representation of ping times in relation to wherever your testing from, but I will get completely different results from my location..
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07-06-2005, 11:56 AM #19Newbie
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the dns tricks that you are referring to are GeoIP tactics, which take your IP and use a Geographic IP system to locate the nearest cluster of servers to serve up the site. You can tell it very easily with Google because if run a proxy that is in Japan for instance, Google will automatically take you to www.google.jp.
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07-06-2005, 06:48 PM #20New Member
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As someone said higher up. Google and Yahoo are both clients of Akami...as are most large content sites. Akami is a company that provides targetted content delivery. If you are accessing google or yahoo then chances are you aren't going more then 200 or 300 miles to a datacenter. Unless of course you live in an incredibly rural location.