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    Racism

    Have to vent.

    My girlfiend just told me that her neighbor said to "Go die ****ing Jap".

    Right now she's mad at the neighbor. The worst part is that no one can do anything about it.

    I hate to see people judged solely on race.
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    I hate racism too especially with my older generation calling mexicans "*** *****" and black people "******s", it really ticks me off when they say these things. I feel sorry for your girlfriend and you should slug the guy in the face. My guess is your girlfriend encountered a mid 50s - 70s years old man where racist was booming in his time.

    racism really pisses me off!
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    Originally posted by Kerry Jones
    I feel sorry for your girlfriend and you should slug the guy in the face.
    It's a she.

    My girlfriend's only a quarter Japanese by ancestry. I shouldn't get into the details, but she feels really bad now.
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    wow, I wouldn't of expected a woman would of said that to her.
    well, its obvious the woman is a bitch and needs to be taught a lesson. Its unfornate the law doesn't walk in that way, but if I was a judge the would would be wearing a sign walking down the side of a highway carrying a sign that reads "i'm a racist".

    see the thing with me is I could have a grudge against the japanese since one of my relatives was captured by them and put on a boat with the japanese flag raised and sunk by the americans, but it would be foolish because its in the past and some people like this woman can't help but live in the past where she probably felt like she was superior to others.
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    Well I hope you girlfriend retaliated and dropped some knowledge on the neighbor, otherwise, that person will just keep doing it. Most of the time people will be racist because they think that person won't do or say anything back. If it really bothers you, report it to the police as a threat.
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    That could be interpreted as a threat, sue.

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    Just remember (and tell your girlfriend to remember) that racism isn't based on hate or malice, but on ignorance.

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    Originally posted by mikeylove
    That could be interpreted as a threat, sue.
    True, Paul. But we'd lose.
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    Originally posted by SniperDevil
    Just remember that racism isn't based on hate or malice, but on ignorance.
    True words of wisdom there my friend.
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    That is blatant racism, a serious problem, and never welcome. I know some older people who are racist, and any time they say anything hinting on racism with me... I don't take it too well. I would punch that guy in the balls if he said that crap in-front of me to my girlfriend . I know that's not exactly what happened, I'd go "talk" to him.

    I can't say I'm an angel myself, I know some people think I'm racist due to my views. The truth is, unless you are Gandhi or Christ, there is a bias towards some group of people. Look at all the people saying: Oh, well jee, Michael Jackson didn't have a "real" Jury of his peers because they were all white! The Michael Jackson case is an exception, but if a lawyer mentioned that to a judge, the judge would take that as 100% racism.

    SniperDevil, I can't say I agree with the first part of your statement.

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    Originally posted by Lev
    The truth is, unless you are Gandhi or Christ, there is a bias towards some group of people.
    Was there not a bias against Christ?

    Originally posted by Lev
    SniperDevil, I can't say I agree with the first part of your statement.
    Were there two parts to my statement?

    With which "part" do you disagree?

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    Originally posted by SniperDevil
    Was there not a bias against Christ?
    When did I mention that? I said Christ had no bias towards people.

    Originally posted by SniperDevil
    Were there two parts to my statement? With which "part" do you disagree?
    Well, yes, the sentance before the comma, and after, two clauses . I disagree with "that racism isn't based on hate or malice." It's based on hate and sometimes ignorance.

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    Originally posted by Lev
    When did I mention that? I said Christ had no bias towards people.
    I guess I misunderstood you then. When you said, "the truth is, unless you are Gandhi or Christ, there is a bias towards some group of people", I interpreted that to mean that unless you are either of those people, there is a bias towards you, not unless you are either of those people, you're going to be biased against one group of people (I agree with the latter).

    Originally posted by Lev
    Well, yes, the sentance before the comma, and after, two clauses . I disagree with "that racism isn't based on hate or malice." It's based on hate and sometimes ignorance.
    There aren't two clauses in what I said. A clause is defined as follows:

    A group of words containing a subject and a predicate and forming part of a compound or complex sentence.
    Therefore, I didn't know what you meant by "parts", but now that you've told me, I do.

    I don't see how racism is based on hate, because every racist I've ever known or heard of knew nothing about the race against which he spoke so vehemently. I urge you to read To Kill a Mockingbird; while it doesn't address 21st century issues, it is a timeless classic that addresses the surface of profound racial tensions in a Southern town.

    BTW, the last few words after the comma is a phrase.

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    Originally posted by SniperDevil
    There aren't two clauses in what I said.

    I don't see how racism is based on hate, because every racist I've ever known or heard of knew nothing about the race against which he spoke so vehemently. I urge you to read To Kill a Mockingbird; while it doesn't address 21st century issues, it is a timeless classic that addresses the surface of profound racial tensions in a Southern town.

    BTW, the last few words after the comma is a phrase.
    I stand corrected about the clause, been a long time since I learned that... way back in 3-5th grade Russian-English .

    I have read To Kill A Mockingbird four times so far, I don't plan on re-reading it any time soon. First time, totally hated it, I was like seven at the time, and it seemed pointless (plus I lived in a country where there aren't a lot of races that really stand out). After I grew older, I understood it a lot better.

    My older relatives can be quite racist at times, and display it, as I mentioned before. There is nothing they need to know to make their statements. They don't like the race, because they just don't... It's a lot like believing in stereotypes...

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    Originally posted by Lev
    I stand corrected about the clause, been a long time since I learned that... way back in 3-5th grade Russian-English .
    I don't fault you at all; considering, you're doing quite well.

    Originally posted by Lev
    I have read To Kill A Mockingbird four times so far, I don't plan on re-reading it any time soon. First time, totally hated it, I was like seven at the time, and it seemed pointless (plus I lived in a country where there aren't a lot of races that really stand out). After I grew older, I understood it a lot better.
    I had to reread several parts before I really caught what Harper Lee was trying to say. I think it's a great book with wonderful messages.

    Originally posted by Lev
    My older relatives can be quite racist at times, and display it, as I mentioned before. There is nothing they need to know to make their statements. They don't like the race, because they just don't... It's a lot like believing in stereotypes...
    You said before that you lived in a country in which there aren't a lot of races that stand out. If this is the case, how can your older relatives be familiar with these other races? And I don't mean simply knowing about them; I mean interacting with and really knowing them.

    I quite honestly used to be afraid of black people when I would see them on the street. I thought each one of them was a criminal, and their appearances frightened me. This wasn't based on hate. I didn't hate them; I feared them, because I knew nothing about them but the stereotypes which had been passed along to me by the various mediums and perceptions which persuade us wrongly so often. When I really started to understand and be familiar with them, I realized that they were absolutely no different from white people, and that it is not their race that is inherently bad. Their higher criminal rate, on the whole, is simply due to the fact that more of them than white people live in lower-income housing and have more broken homes, for whatever reason. There is absolutely no inherent weakness about black people, and I have grown to respect and admire each one as an individual. Please don't tell me that I was a "bigoted cracker" at age seven, because I truly felt the way I described above, and it was simply due to a lack of knowledge -- ignorance -- about them.

    If someone stuck Edgar Ray Killen in the home of a low-income African-American family, I'm positive that he would go as or more socially and morally astray as any of them.

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    True, Paul. But we'd lose.
    well, call the cops anyway. that'd make them think twice before doing it again.

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    That's horrible. Racism sucks. All human beings should know better than to treat someone badly because they have a different color skin, or a different weight, or a different height, or brown eyes, etc.

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    Everyone has a little bit of racism in them, it is natural. Just as everyone is a bit sexist. It'll never go away but should always be controlled.

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    Your girlfriend's correct response is "**** you, too!" The world is full of creeps. You're lucky just to get them to curb their excesses. You'll drive yourself crazy if you imagine you should take up the futile project of trying to reform them.

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    the worst part in world , that is why i hate the british people who think they are very fair.

    black or white ( all are human beings)

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    Originally posted by spechackers
    the worst part in world , that is why i hate the british people who think they are very fair.

    black or white ( all are human beings)

    What is this supposed to mean?

    You think that black and white are all human beings but you hate the British?

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    Where is the Love by Black Eyed Peas is a good song that talks about it.

    But if you only have love for your own race
    Then you only leave space to discriminate
    And to discriminate only generates hate
    And if you hatin you're bound to get irate
    Yeah madness is what you demonstrate
    And that's exactly how anger works and operates
    You gotta have love just to set it straight
    Take control of your mind and meditate
    Let your soul gravitate to the love y'all
    It's sad world we live in when we, Humans, the most intelligent people on this planet hate others for their color or their beliefs.

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    There is alot of racists out there.
    And there pretty sad

    For them they should remember one thing
    "We all bleed to red"

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    Originally posted by Rob83
    It's sad world we live in when we, Humans, the most intelligent people on this planet hate others for their color or their beliefs.
    I thought we were the only people on this planet.

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    Nothing solves racism like pointing out they're on their third wife, work at k-mart, or have nascar parties. No offense to any of you if you fall into this category, but pointing out problems in the racist's life is usually my preferred tactic.

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    Do you or your girlfriend value the neighbors opinion that much to be offended? No use getting your blood pressure up over their ignorance. People who need to attack based on color of skin or ethnic background are trivial.

    If they resort to any physical attack or vandalism, use the proper authorities and see a lawyer that specializes in race related issues.

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    I've been called a racist before because of some of my views on the world. I think the difference between a racist and... me (and other people who think like I do), is that a racist hates the person BECAUSE of that persons race, as in, no matter what that person does, he's still inferior or wrong because of his race. People like that piss me off, because they are racist idiots. Now, I think that there is a *culture* (not race) problem in america. I've posted on this before (not on this board) and will elaborate if you want, but a culture that glorifies thugs and gangsters and unsuccessful criminals is not a good culture. Bill Cosby speaks out about this alot, and I see it daily at my school, and it just pisses me off that I know kids that are very intelligent, very smart, but because of that culture, act like stupid uneducated morons, or else they'd be labeled as "acting white". I also know those that don't feed into that culture, and although they may be rejected/outright made fun of by their black peers, those kids actually have good grades, don't act like idiots, and will go to a good college. In other words, this isn't a race problem, its a culture problem brought on originally by racist whites, but now being perpetuated by many in the black community, (especially those that promote the "rapper ghetto gangsta" persona). Those people are the type of people who make Rev. King turn over in his grave. They sully his legacy with every reference to "shooting n*****s in the club" and the rest of that ghetto gangsta thug nonsense.
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    Im sorry i cant believe this, there is people who hate people for there colour is this sarcasm which i dont understand:
    What is racism? I hate all white people. Is that racist?
    "We all bleed to red"

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    What is racism? I don't really understand. My professor told another student that he don't think I understand what it is. But the student said I just told her the answer.
    My definition of racism is being rude to another person of a different race. But what I don't understand is...in Alabama, there are no more separation water foundation....how do people act in racism without using action or words?
    I learned: You could be racism against your own race.

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    Originally posted by indiaberry

    My definition of racism is being rude to another person of a different race.
    Racism is being rude to someone because of their race.

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    Originally posted by indiaberry
    My definition of racism is being rude to another person of a different race.
    That's the most ridiculous definition I have seen in my entire life . A good definition is: A set of incorrect assumptions, opinions and acts resulting from the belief that one race is inherently/genetically superior to another. You'll see beefy definitions in lots of places, but that's because people are adding more and more invalid things into it.

    Originally posted by SniperDevil
    I quite honestly used to be afraid of black people when I would see them on the street. I thought each one of them was a criminal, and their appearances frightened me.
    Really? Well... I don't know if that's really racism, but as you said, that's ignorance for sure.

    Originally posted by SniperDevil
    Their higher criminal rate, on the whole, is simply due to the fact that more of them than white people live in lower-income housing and have more broken homes, for whatever reason.
    That, is where you are wrong. It's not a "whatever" reason. Honestly, I have a problem with a lot of black people in the United States. Many just seem to be violent and stupid and you'll never catch me wearing pants that fall off my back-end. Am I racist? No, because I don't say "every black man is an idiot." I say that the society and former slavery in the United States has "changed or effected" many black people living here (that is what I think the :whatever" reason is. As most people, I have black and white, and I respect all of them. People that come from black countries around the world are almost always VERY different from those black people living here, and that's a fact. Their behavior is different, their self image is different and they sure wear shorts that cover the back-end.

    So yes, there is a reason, it's not like "it's just dumb luck," it's lose of culture because of former slavery, and the society now. And I think it's there to stay.

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    Originally posted by Lev
    Honestly, I have a problem with a lot of black people in the United States. Many just seem to be violent and stupid and you'll never catch me wearing pants that fall off my back-end. Am I racist?

    You very well could be based on your post.

    You fail to acknowledge that there are many whites, asians, hispanics and others who also wear these same fashions.

    Are you just against blacks wearing this or are you against the fashion?

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    Originally posted by blue27
    You very well could be based on your post.

    You fail to acknowledge that there are many whites, asians, hispanics and others who also wear these same fashions.

    Are you just against blacks wearing this or are you against the fashion?
    Really? I could be racist? By what definition, go ahead and post it here.
    How could I be racist when I have no problem what-so-ever with those black people that come from other continents? Get a life and stop cutting things out of context.

    I am against that fashion, but that fashion is only common amongst black people here in the United States, I think that says something. I asked a couple of black people from Africa what they thought and they told me something along the lines of "it's despicable. " I don't fail to acknowledge anything, I have not seen any whites, Asians or Hispanics wear that kind of clothes, ever. Keep in mind: I am not saying every black person in the US is an idiot or something along those lines, not at all. I'm saying that there is something different about black people in the US and black people from other places, there is a reason for it, and it's all clear as black and white on statistics.
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    Originally posted by The Napster
    Im sorry i cant believe this, there is people who hate people for there colour is this sarcasm which i dont understand:

    "We all bleed to red"
    Hmm, I wondered if a white person saying he hates white people would get his post deleted. I guess a mod thought maybe I was black/hisp/asian or something and took offense.. Or Blue started in, caused a fuss, and got everything deleted.

    Some people are just waaaaaay to serious

    So a black guy calls me a cracker, whoopty f&cking doo. Who cares? Will I lower myself to take offense to it? Nope. He's the one that looks stupid in front of others for being racist. Kinda like anyone who would get offended by a white guy saying he doesnt like white people. Of course it's not true, but some people are so serious about things here, they are actually religiously serious, I figured I would poke the fun. I guess I was right, one of those "religiously serious" people took the bait, made a fuss, looked stupid, and probably reported my post into deletion.

    Oh well, such is life, and some people need one. Too bad I missed the recent posts right after mine.

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    Originally posted by Lev
    [B]Really? I could be racist? By what definition, go ahead and post it here.
    How could I be racist when I have no problem what-so-ever with those black people that come from other continents?
    Sorry, but I believe you've explained it right here.

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    Originally posted by JSpired
    Sorry, but I believe you've explained it right here.
    Explained what? Racism is when you let the color of people's skin effect your judgement, yet I have no problem with some people and some I don't respect as much, but they are the same colored skin. I don't let skin color effect my judgement, rather statistics and personal experience showing BEHAVIOR. So if you think I'm an idiot basing my opinion on someone's skin color, you are dead wrong.

    On the other hand, I am basing my opinion on the BEHAVIOR of a certain group of people in the United States only, effect my judgement but that can't possibly be racism since there are many more black people on other continents and I respect them more than many white people I know. Besides, if basing your opinion on the behavior of others is racism, they you are racist towards conservatives and democrats...and lots of other examples can be brought up.

    I am pointing our certain negative traits in behavior of people and I can do the same for a person of any color skin. Does that mean I'm racist towards everyone, when I simply point out negative traits?

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    Originally posted by Lev


    On the other hand, I am basing my opinion on the BEHAVIOR of a certain group of people in the United States only..

    I am pointing our certain negative traits in behavior of people and I can do the same for a person of any color skin. Does that mean I'm racist towards everyone, when I simply point out negative traits?
    Sorry mate, but I live in the U. S., have several children (who who are not white) and your assessement is a bit "off."

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    Racism stinks, ask yourself this.

    Do you wonder what colour or race the person your interacting with on this board is? no i didnt think so but put you all face to face and the diverging cultures would create wonder based solely on what a person looks like.

    I treat people how i like to be treated and dont dislike any one until they do something to make me dislike them.

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    Originally posted by phill2003
    Racism stinks, ask yourself this.

    Do you wonder what colour or race the person your interacting with on this board is? no i didnt think so but put you all face to face and the diverging cultures would create wonder based solely on what a person looks like.

    I treat people how i like to be treated and dont dislike any one until they do something to make me dislike them.
    Well said, mate!

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    Originally posted by Lev
    Really? I could be racist? By what definition, go ahead and post it here.
    How could I be racist when I have no problem what-so-ever with those black people that come from other continents? Get a life and stop cutting things out of context.

    I am against that fashion, but that fashion is only common amongst black people here in the United States, I think that says something. I asked a couple of black people from Africa what they thought and they told me something along the lines of "it's despicable. " I don't fail to acknowledge anything, I have not seen any whites, Asians or Hispanics wear that kind of clothes, ever. Keep in mind: I am not saying every black person in the US is an idiot or something along those lines, not at all. I'm saying that there is something different about black people in the US and black people from other places, there is a reason for it, and it's all clear as black and white on statistics.
    You are discriminating based on race.
    You just try to justify it by saying there are good blacks and bad blacks.

    That fashion you refer to is very common among youth in general, not just black youth. If you have not seen any whites, Asians or Hispanics wearing these kinds of clothes it's just because your prejudice doesn't allow you to see it.

    How old were these black people from Africa that you polled? What demographic? Are these the only two African blacks you have ever met? How many more have you met that you can paint things with such a broad brush?

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