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06-20-2005, 05:49 AM #1Disabled
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Why does wht NOT uses google adsense?
WHT gets a very good amounf of $ via banners, i just want to know why NOT maximize income by using adsense on the sides or something?
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06-20-2005, 07:10 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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Well, I can't speak officially for WHT, but i'd say AdSense banners are exceptionally unattractive and could be quite intrusive.
It is very unlikely that people here will click on them.
I'd also say that AdSense payouts are much over-rated - banner click-thru schemes such as the one run here at WHT are much more effective.
It should be remembered that banners integrate with the community in a more professional way, AdSense could run the risk of looking out of place.
However, i'd wait for an official response
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06-20-2005, 07:54 AM #3Retired Moderator
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Re: Why does wht NOT uses google adsense?
Originally posted by Directory
WHT gets a very good amounf of $ via banners, i just want to know why NOT maximize income by using adsense on the sides or something?
IIRC Inet charges per impression which would work out much much better for them instead of charging per click.█ Mike from Zoodia.com
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06-20-2005, 09:32 AM #4Retired Moderator
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I doubt having to compete with adsense would be particularly attractive to WHT banner advertisers...
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06-21-2005, 02:56 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Directory,
I'm sure iNet is maximizing it's profit just fine with the banners.
I don't think they need any additional ads - for now it's packed solid.
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06-21-2005, 02:58 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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" but i'd say AdSense banners are exceptionally unattractive and could be quite intrusive."
lol
And that site5 top banner wasn't? And the huge ad site re-doing isnt? Comon.
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06-21-2005, 05:24 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Camp2Win
" but i'd say AdSense banners are exceptionally unattractive and could be quite intrusive."
lol
And that site5 top banner wasn't? And the huge ad site re-doing isnt? Comon.Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius
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06-21-2005, 05:31 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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You dont remember
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=399556
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06-21-2005, 06:18 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Camp2Win
You dont remember
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=399556
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JordOur greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. - Confucius
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06-24-2005, 01:44 AM #10Junior Guru
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The implicit CPMs of Google Adsense are pitiful at best- around $1 to $2 CPM. Google has asked for large CPM purchases of AdSense banners in the past (versus the common mysterious CPM based on clicks, average click, and other variables unpublished by Google)....
We respectfully declined.
Google AdSense, in my humble opinion, is the fallback to "can't get any other advertisers, so I will settle for Google"....
I have no ill feelings toward Google, just it is not desirable for advertisers, our pocketbook, or visitors to have Google AdSense creative on the WHT site.
effusionx1 pretty much nailed it on the head.-------------------------------------------------
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06-24-2005, 05:08 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
Google AdSense, in my humble opinion, is the fallback to "can't get any other advertisers, so I will settle for Google"....
If those are clients who you found through direct selling, then sure, Google does not live up to the revenues you can generate on your own.
If you mean just any "other advertiser", then I have to respectfully disagree. Publishing wise, AdSense has proven to often multiply the revenue of many web site owners. It is definitely pays among the best among all advertising networks (middleman parties).
Best,
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07-08-2005, 01:22 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
The implicit CPMs of Google Adsense are pitiful at best- around $1 to $2 CPM. Google has asked for large CPM purchases of AdSense banners in the past (versus the common mysterious CPM based on clicks, average click, and other variables unpublished by Google)....
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07-10-2005, 02:51 AM #13Blue, Furry and Comfortable
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I would also think that iNet would not want to loose control of the payments that are recieved. Google controls the money, when they pay, etc... I think iNet has the right solution for this forum.
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07-10-2005, 08:12 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Gabriel Murphy
Google AdSense, in my humble opinion, is the fallback to "can't get any other advertisers, so I will settle for Google"....
Wow, thanks for insulting the rest of us.
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07-10-2005, 12:17 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by eMax
Wow, thanks for insulting the rest of us.
IMHO, he's basically saying, if you don't want to direct sale advertising to customers and handle everything involved in that (and there is a lot involved there), then Google Adsense is something decent to fallback on if you simply want to make a few bucks on advertising, and not have advertising be your whole business.Jeremy Johnstone
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07-10-2005, 12:20 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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I see a lot of in-network advertising on WHT, why not replace some of that with google adsense ads, and put them in the rotation? That way advertisers are not competing. Problem with doing that though, is you'll constantly see nothing but rackspace ads hehe.
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07-10-2005, 12:49 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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Why conform to google's rules / limitations / payouts if you do not have to. The simple fact is that iNet is a large company with a good advertising scheme.
With google you display what they decide you display. iNET's advertising model allows them to place directed ad's on any sites that wish and to cross site advertise their own products.
If you can do it on your own it's always better to get customers to advertise directly through your site. If you are not that big google is a good alternative. Frankly with all the issues google has had with adsense as of late I wouldn't put my eggs in their basket.
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07-10-2005, 07:22 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Jeremy Johnstone
If you're narrow sighted, you could see his comment that way, but I am sure that's not what Gabe meant.
IMHO, he's basically saying, if you don't want to direct sale advertising to customers and handle everything involved in that (and there is a lot involved there), then Google Adsense is something decent to fallback on if you simply want to make a few bucks on advertising, and not have advertising be your whole business.
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07-10-2005, 07:26 PM #19Web Hosting Evangelist
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Originally posted by eMax
WOW another insult. You fit right in.
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07-10-2005, 07:44 PM #20Web Developer
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If you're narrow sighted,
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07-10-2005, 09:01 PM #21Disabled
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Perhaps eMax is being a little over sensitive.
There was nothing wrong or inaccurate with Gabriel's post.
Google is crap when it comes to real advertising revenue. If your site is worthy you can make far more on real targeted advertisements and choose yourself which ads you want to display.
This is not an insult, it's a fact.
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07-11-2005, 01:01 AM #22Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by DanX
If you're narrow sighted,
I think blue27 said it best:
Google is crap when it comes to real advertising revenue. If your site is worthy you can make far more on real targeted advertisements and choose yourself which ads you want to display.
This is not an insult, it's a fact.Jeremy Johnstone
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07-17-2005, 04:33 PM #23Junior Guru
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Originally posted by blue27
Perhaps eMax is being a little over sensitive.
There was nothing wrong or inaccurate with Gabriel's post.
Google is crap when it comes to real advertising revenue. If your site is worthy you can make far more on real targeted advertisements and choose yourself which ads you want to display.
This is not an insult, it's a fact.-------------------------------------------------
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07-17-2005, 04:40 PM #24Web Hosting Master
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Another reason not to use google adsense
I have a customer in the real world that has around 30 stations network all behind 1 router. Well about half of them found out about my webpage and started visiting it regularly. This is a group of non techy people that click on anything that looks cool.
Well they told each other about one of the ads and they all clicked it, google pulled my account stating that I was multi clicking on items myself. I have only clicked on 1 or 2 of my ad's because well they looked interesting. But there's no explaining anything to google and to boot they took all the money in my adsense account.
I am not really saying that google is bad but they should take situations like this into consideration is was not even all that many clicks but the fact is they dont care and there is no talking to them. That's ok I still like their search engine.