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    Dear All, anyone know what is a Bullet proof server?

    is it a adult,illegal contents server?

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    Bullet proof server? Uh... never heard that term before. It could mean one of two things:
    1) A computer (server) with all components firmly encased in a thick, bullet-resistant shell
    2) A server with superb security features (firewalls, hardened kernel, the whole shabang.

    Doesn't exactly mean it's an adult-content server or illegal-activities-type of server. Somebody is most likely just very paranoid and is willing to spend ten times as much to protect against something that's almost never going to happen in the first place (Like morons who fall for the horribly overpriced, underpowered HavenCo products...)

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    Bullet proof hosting is usually the term given to servers that you can more or less spam from. Heavy heavy spam might get you shut down, but they don't mind getting some SPAM complaints in. They also are usually located offshores.
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    Bullet-proof server... let's me check my dictionaries. What!? "No entry found." Hmm... it must be there is no bullet-proof server ever exist, period.

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    Originally posted by sc0rpi0n
    Bullet-proof server... let's me check my dictionaries. What!? "No entry found." Hmm... it must be there is no bullet-proof server ever exist, period.
    What was the point of this comment?

    Check out this: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=linux%20server

    Hmm... it must be there is no linux server ever exist, period.
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    Symbolically, I mean there is no such unhackable (bullet-proof) server, whether it is Unix, Linux, or Windows.

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    Read my post Bullet-proof is the term given to hosting/dedicated servers that do not have a problem with people spamming.

    See: http://www.cool-servers.com/
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    Like justadollarhostin said

    bullet-proof servers = spam tolerant hosts!
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    a bullet proof server is one thats advertised 30 times a day to every email address in the whois database from scammers and spammers

    the people who sell them, they people who advertise/spamvertise them and the mental-deficients who fall for the scam and purchase them all need to be strung-up IMHO

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    Oh, my definition is wrong then. Nice to know the terms "bullet-proof server" and "bullet-proof hosting".

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    Sometimes kiddy porns too I think. Even warez.

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    Originally posted by UltraUnixNET
    Sometimes kiddy porns too I think. Even warez.
    No, if you try that with most any of those hosts you will have your account terminated in a hurry, especially child porn.
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    Sometime ago someone from Holland said it was possible in some 3rd world country. Hm, perhaps he was kidding me.

    Anyway, cool-servers seems to be in HK, I thought they were strict in spams.

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    Originally posted by UltraUnixNET
    Sometime ago someone from Holland said it was possible in some 3rd world country. Hm, perhaps he was kidding me.

    Anyway, cool-servers seems to be in HK, I thought they were strict in spams.
    HK and China are two different places. I don't know the details, but from my knowledge China is the one that is very very strict, when you get into HK the rules are much more loose.
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    Bulletproof refers to how the host handles complaints. Most of the time, this is from spam, but also, it can refer to dodging fallout over controversy. Many hosts will give in and terminate contracts when legal threats and harrassment arrives, even if the customer isn't breaking criminal law. BP hosts often have a reputation for shielding the customer from stuff like that.



    On a side note, most BP hosts won't touch CP, and depending on country of origin, may restrict warez.

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    Originally posted by kernelpanic
    On a side note, most BP hosts won't touch CP, and depending on country of origin, may restrict warez.
    I have yet to find one host in the world with the exception of something like Sealand that would tolerate warez.
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    Originally posted by justadollarhostin
    I have yet to find one host in the world with the exception of something like Sealand that would tolerate warez.
    Right, just like no BP host in the world tolerates spam, either.

    Just like spam, warez is something that exists until someone complains. Most hosts will terminate a spammer/pirate's account, and comply with any investigating organizations. BP hosts typically shuffle the complaints around between departments, until they are ultimately lost, or unresolved due to technicalities in the evidence that the person complaining failed to anticipate. The only exception to this is that large warez operations will not find BP hosting in the US.

    When a serious complaint is made to a normal host, they look into it with sincerity, and usually terminate the account for one reason or another. When a serious complaint is made to an enterprise-grade host against a big client, the account is left open and all parties' lawyers are contacted. When a serious complaint is made to a BP host, the legal department tells the accuser that the contract has been terminated, then notifies the tech department to get them moved to a new netblock.

    Static spam operations, and static warez operations are hard to find. Once someone who cares takes notice, the operation is shuffled to where they are not looking.

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    If anyone finds these types of hosts, please let me know.

    I'd like to add their IP blocks to certain ACLs
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    Originally posted by MaB
    If anyone finds these types of hosts, please let me know.

    I'd like to add their IP blocks to certain ACLs
    Someone posted that cool-servers.com, I'd add their blocks to your ACLs...

    They say on their front page spam tolerant, and look what they get for a dedicated server...


    80 GB Storage
    Pentium 4 2.4Ghz
    1 GB RAM
    Admin Tools

    $800/month

    I'd say these guys are down for some serious spamming, and probably whatever the hell else a person is willing to pay $800/month for, but their IP blocks are probably on every block list on gods green earth.

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    Originally posted by Take-IT-EZZI
    Someone posted that cool-servers.com, I'd add their blocks to your ACLs...

    <<snip>>

    I'd say these guys are down for some serious spamming, and probably whatever the hell else a person is willing to pay $800/month for, but their IP blocks are probably on every block list on gods green earth.
    yup... they're listed in a few of the big lists. Go figure.

    Website looks like it belongs to an 8 year old kiddie host....

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    Why are there such outlaw servers? Nobody control the IP blocks or something?

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    Originally posted by sc0rpi0n
    Symbolically, I mean there is no such unhackable (bullet-proof) server, whether it is Unix, Linux, or Windows.
    Disconnect it from the Internet.

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    Originally posted by lumigo
    Disconnect it from the Internet.
    Now we're talking

    I might as well disconnect my server from the Internet, it's REALLY secure =)

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    Originally posted by lumigo
    Disconnect it from the Internet.
    Still inter-building security risks. Even internap had an un-attended perosn in one of their facilities that hit the big red power off button thinking it was the exit button for the door. Shut down many many big sites.
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    So basiclly there fair-weather hosts?

    They will host you until it starts raining on there parade

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    Originally posted by ChrisDM
    So basiclly there fair-weather hosts?

    They will host you until it starts raining on there parade
    They would be rainy day hosts. They'll host you when nobody else will.
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