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    Dedicated hosting in China?

    I am working on a Chinese sponsored web project that, although international in scope, will be mostly accessed from China. As an option to offshore hosting, we are very much interested in the possibility of having this project hosted 'close to home'. To cut to the chase: can anyone recommend a reputable host in mainland China or Hong Kong that does not lie within any banned IP range?

    Requirements:

    - 2 GHz+
    - 1GB RAM
    - RAID-1
    - dedicated 100Mbps
    - 1000GB transfer
    - ability to choose server OS (preferably Debian or FreeBSD)
    - customer support in both Chinese and English a bonus
    - unmanaged/semi-managed (no need for CPanel etc.)

    We are guessing it might be hard to find a reputable host matching the price level of hosts such as LayeredTech, but ideally the price would not be much over $100/month.

    Grateful for any recommendations,
    -Kris

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    I think one of the provider hosting4asia does in Hong Kong, you can try PM him for more details. I would recommend putting in HK instead rather than in China , easier to control.

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    I think you will need a license for your website if you want to host in China.

    If you have that, hosting in China is the best since I heard that China firewall is very advanced now. The firewall will scan your emails and web pages when you download them inside the firewall. If "illegal contents" are found, your domain/ IP will be banned until the content is removed. So, you need to monitor your content closely, especially forum.

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    I am currently in China now and there are only afew hosts around...
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    Yeap heard that it is cost hundreds of thousands to secure and register as a hosting co esp if you are a foreign hosting co wanting to establish there.

    Originally posted by pang
    I think you will need a license for your website if you want to host in China.

    If you have that, hosting in China is the best since I heard that China firewall is very advanced now. The firewall will scan your emails and web pages when you download them inside the firewall. If "illegal contents" are found, your domain/ IP will be banned until the content is removed. So, you need to monitor your content closely, especially forum.

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    Originally posted by pang
    I think you will need a license for your website if you want to host in China.
    Would the same apply for HK hosting?

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    Nope, HK is by far one of the freeiest economy in the world unlike China which has a very restrictive environment. My feeling on China is that they arent really keen on "internet" but rather on their own "intranet".

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    There is something you have to know:
    1. You have to register your web site, otherwise you can't run
    your site, especially if it's a commercial one.
    2. Reall Dedicated 100M Connection is not cheap, I doubt $100 if
    Far from enough.
    3. You can choose the OS by yourself.
    4. Traffic is not metered, usually, as long as it's reasonable.
    5. There different providers, and the speed varies. What is your main target visitors? Where are most of them located?
    6. Support in Chinese is of course no problem, but not sure about English. Most hosting sites have only Chinese Version homepage.
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    What's your contents? I know one of chinese hosting provider.

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    What's your contents? I know one of chinese hosting provider.
    It's a non-commercial digital library project related to folklore, nothing controversial.

    What is your main target visitors? Where are most of them located?
    The main target is academics and students of Asian culture worldwide, but the brunt of the visitors will probably be from China. There will eventually be quite a lot of multimedia content on the site, hence the need for some decent hardware.

    Thanks folks for all the enlightening replies so far, I am learning a lot about a hosting market I know next to nothing about. 谢谢你们帮忙!

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    Originally posted by TigerBee
    It's a non-commercial digital library project related to folklore, nothing controversial.



    The main target is academics and students of Asian culture worldwide, but the brunt of the visitors will probably be from China. There will eventually be quite a lot of multimedia content on the site, hence the need for some decent hardware.

    Thanks folks for all the enlightening replies so far, I am learning a lot about a hosting market I know next to nothing about. 谢谢你们帮忙!
    No matter what your site is about, you have to register on
    a governmental site.
    I am running a hosting company in China, I can help you on that.
    But to tell you the truth, the real 100M port will be rather expensive.

    For me, support in English is not a problem.
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    I am running a hosting company in China, I can help you on that.
    Sober, would you please PM me with a price quote for the server (see above) and various bandwidth options (we might have to skimp on the 100Mbps if it is going to be very expensive, but let us know how much). Also, I'd like to know what the url of your company and where in China you are located. Thanks!

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    Originally posted by TigerBee
    Sober, would you please PM me with a price quote for the server (see above) and various bandwidth options (we might have to skimp on the 100Mbps if it is going to be very expensive, but let us know how much). Also, I'd like to know what the url of your company and where in China you are located. Thanks!
    I'd rather post here

    P4 3.0C
    512M DDR X 2
    120G SATA

    Not sure whether I can get the REAL 100M BW
    So quote may not be accurate.

    Contact me as you can't receive my PM
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    Contact me as you can't receive my PM
    Specs look good, especially if we can have another 120G drive set in for RAID-1. Will contact you shortly.

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    Originally posted by TigerBee
    Specs look good, especially if we can have another 120G drive set in for RAID-1. Will contact you shortly.
    Yes, and I would like to tell you in advance that:
    most Chinese dedicated host would like a yearly payment
    And trafic is not metered

    and payment method should be a problem

    anyway, you can contact me for the detail s
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    BTW just a curious question, I always find Shanghai connection to be problematic, Beijing is slightly better, any particular reasons. Do PM me an indicative cost for a basic dedicated server in China if possible. Thanks

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    Boonchuan - i was just in beinjing, nanjing and now shanghai - i've had internet in each place (broadband) and beijing seems to get better routes to the US
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    Please be noted that there is no freedom of speech in China

    I read the news that you even have to register you Blog to Gov.

    They can shut your server down without any notice and never pay back money

    Cost of running business there are pretty high in terms of ***risk**
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    Well, well, who can be more familiar with someone in China himself

    As long as you don't run sites with Adult/Porn Political contents,
    and spend as little as 5 minutes to register your site
    you don't have such worry



    Originally posted by Downloadinn
    Please be noted that there is no freedom of speech in China

    I read the news that you even have to register you Blog to Gov.

    They can shut your server down without any notice and never pay back money

    Cost of running business there are pretty high in terms of ***risk**
    I Love WHT

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    sober, are you in China?

    Where to register website in Egnlish?
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    Originally posted by Downloadinn
    sober, are you in China?

    Where to register website in Egnlish?
    Yes I am.

    I am afraid currently the governmental site in only available in CN
    and you have to provide a local mobilephone number to
    receive the activation code

    I am willing to help but my own number has already been used
    for registering my site
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    if your customers in china mainland, you should get hosting in mainland than HK.

    电信, 网通, 联通 you can choose those three providers.

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    i really want to get a good space in mainland too, maybe you can go to www. net.cn( the biggest hosing provider in china), if you want commerial website, you should register and get lisence.

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    The www.net.cn is the biggest webhosting provider in china not delicated server service provider!

    If you want to hosting in china mainland,you can go to www.edong.com,we use china telecom idc center in shanghai waigaoqiao .

    http://www.edong.com/v8/delicatedserver/

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