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  1. #1
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    Better to pay for local loop or lay fiber?

    $10k per month per each 5gbps for localloop, required 10gbps just for now

    better to pay the local loop costs or lay fiber? distance within 15 miles to pop

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    Erm ... laying fiber requires permits and stuff - its less of a hassle to lease ... plus you mightnot be able to lay fiber wherever you want and finally - fiber maintenance and all that ... best to leave it to professionals
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    It depends on where you are, city or rural, but we use $40,000 per mile as an estimate. City is more because you have to dig up streets and such.

    There's plenty of cheap fiber to be had, you're almost always better off leasing some.
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    Do you need 10 gbps of IP, or is this for transport for an college campus or something along those lines?
    If you truly need 10 gbps of IP Internet access, suggest that you look for locations closer to one of the major POPs. (1 Wilshire, 111 8th ave, etc)

    But to your question -- you will need a diverse path fiber ring. If you are in a major metro area, there should be several fiber providers (AboveNet, etc) who will be able to proivde with a portion of the ring.
    Then you can build out just the stubs to your location. If your business model is long-term go with fiber. There are many companies doing fiber at a lot less then $40k in many areas. However, as pointed out above, it really is dependant on the right of ways, how congested the area is, etc.

    For the amount of traffic that you are talking about, again assuming that you are going to do something like a Cisco 10 gbps Xenpak, make sure that you get clean fiber.

    The other consideratoin is the equipment to light the fiber, and fiber / engineering expertise

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    Anyone have any recommendations for the downtown Houston area on someone who can beat $4/meg? Destination is downtown, pickup will be about 10 miles away

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    Originally posted by Jinx_4th
    Anyone have any recommendations for the downtown Houston area on someone who can beat $4/meg? Destination is downtown, pickup will be about 10 miles away
    I've never been to Houston other than when connecting flights at IAH, but my guess is 10 miles from downtown is still going to be a fairly urban area. Take Jaybirdsmith's suggestion and contact CLECs in your area. Snoop around the cable vault(s) in your building and see what optical carriers may have already constructed fiber entrances. Talk to your landlord. These are all good resources.
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    Check out Looking Glass Networks. http://www.lglass.net and Onfiber http://www.onfiber.com Both of them are in Houston..
    James Lumby

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    well long run best business plan would be a fiber build. I have got carriers to do a fiber build with two strands of fiber for only a gig commit (they ate the cost of the build). Guess it depends where you are located. If you need that much traffic you wouldnt need to pay for the fiber built - If a customer bought that much from us we would cover the costs.
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