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    Selling Software on eBay (Copied Software).

    omg can people really get away with this?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...162976564&rd=1

    was just searching around on eBay as I had nothing else worth while to do and come across about 500+ software being sold on ebay on CD R's is this actually legal?

    how could i report this cause im sure its not.

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    He wont have his ebay account for long.

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    No, it's not legal (unless the software is under license where you are free to distribute it).
    And ebay knows about it, but there are too many to shut down.
    Haven't been on WHT for 6 years!

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    Originally posted by jasong
    No, it's not legal (unless the software is under license where you are free to distribute it).
    And ebay knows about it, but there are too many to shut down.
    They wouldnt would they seen as they make money
    Regards

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    Originally posted by jasong
    No, it's not legal (unless the software is under license where you are free to distribute it).
    And ebay knows about it, but there are too many to shut down.
    well i know that.

    but the software that, the link is pointing too is Photoshop cs2. I dowt some how that, this is under free distrobution. lol

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    I purchased some software on Ebay last year which turned out to be a CDR and the key written on the CD !

    After I received this I noticed that the guy who sold it had already had their ebay account stopped.

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    Ive got nothing else to do with my spare time so i think i might report all these people to ebay now hehe.

    I know im a cruel ***ard but hey its a cruel world.

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    It will be interesting to see how fast ebay will pull the auction.

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    Originally posted by mlovick
    It will be interesting to see how fast ebay will pull the auction.
    yep just done it now

    if not action is taken no big deal ill send an e-mail to adobe or summit see what they say about it lol.

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    Lol its gone!

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    This listing (7162976564) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available.

    So it would seem that eBay has pulled the auction. There are though quite a lot of people selling copies of software on eBay, so this doesnít come as a surprise to me Ė Iím sure eBay realise that a lot of people do it, but they cannot spend all their time going through all the auctions to see whether their sellers are selling copies or not Ė and more often than not the buyers are happy to get good software at a cheaper price, whether it be legal or not.

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    It would be foolish to knowingly buy illegal software off ebay. If Adobe (in this case) wanted a list of all the buyers then I am sure eBay will be only too happy to pass the information on. Then you get a knock on the door and you are busted.

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    Originally posted by mlovick
    It would be foolish to knowingly buy illegal software off ebay. If Adobe (in this case) wanted a list of all the buyers then I am sure eBay will be only too happy to pass the information on. Then you get a knock on the door and you are busted.
    Could you really see a company such as Adobe, who deals with extremely large corporate accounts, really being worried about 13 year olds downloading their software?

    I'm not saying it's right and I'm not saying these companies don't do anything, I just think my above statement would be the common business view on the situation.

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    Originally posted by mlovick
    It would be foolish to knowingly buy illegal software off ebay. If Adobe (in this case) wanted a list of all the buyers then I am sure eBay will be only too happy to pass the information on. Then you get a knock on the door and you are busted.
    But does Adobe really care?

    The majority of people who purchase copies of their software would probably have never bought it in the first place; meaning they donít actually lose anything.

    And secondly, what if you buy a copy of Adobe Photoshop thinking itís the real thing, but when it arrives itís simply a copy, so you decide to use it because youíve spent a fair amount on it Ė itís not your fault as you thought you were buying the real thing, not a copy.

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    Thats not the way it morally works Anjay - having said that, there is some element of realism in your post, however, Adobe would not allow pedlers of their software to get away with it if they can help it.

    If someone broke into your house and stole some items, you later heard that they were in the local market selling your stuff, you would not just sit there and allow them to continue selling it, you would go after them with the police at your side. And if they had the names and addresses of the people who purchased the items from the theifs - what would you do?

    I mean this lightheartedly.

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    Originally posted by Mekhu
    Could you really see a company such as Adobe, who deals with extremely large corporate accounts, really being worried about 13 year olds downloading their software?

    I'm not saying it's right and I'm not saying these companies don't do anything, I just think my above statement would be the common business view on the situation.
    I am not entirely sure but I do believe that major software companies contract this out to companies who specialise in stamping out illegal software.

    Although - I am sure they are more interested finding cracked/illegal software in the workplace rather than in a spotty school kids bedroom.

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    so you lot are abasicly saying seeing as adobe make alot of money anyway they shouldnt care about the free loaders?

    Im gunna e-mail them and see wot happens

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    We bought Dreamweaver MX 2004 last year from eBay.co.uk, nice British guy was happy to take our 80~GBP, ended up getting a CDR copy of Dreamweaver MX 6.

    Funny thing is eBay did nothing, and PayPal said tough luck.

    I think that was the last time I shopped at UK eBay.
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    Originally posted by afa340a
    We bought Dreamweaver MX 2004 last year from eBay.co.uk, nice British guy was happy to take our 80~GBP, ended up getting a CDR copy of Dreamweaver MX 6.

    Funny thing is eBay did nothing, and PayPal said tough luck.

    I think that was the last time I shopped at UK eBay.
    Ouch unlucky

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    Originally posted by mlovick
    He still has his account though:
    http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...d=fiercefireuk
    It seems he is still at it. Recently sold Windows Longhorn? lol and more adobe products.

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    Originally posted by afa340a
    We bought Dreamweaver MX 2004 last year from eBay.co.uk, nice British guy was happy to take our 80~GBP, ended up getting a CDR copy of Dreamweaver MX 6.

    Funny thing is eBay did nothing, and PayPal said tough luck.

    I think that was the last time I shopped at UK eBay.
    yeah it is tough luck seeing as u dont read the discription. common u dont honestly beleive your getting a legal copy at 80 GBP when the legal copy costs wot 200 - 300 GBP lmao.

    the thing that makes me laugh about it is, that the description actally clear says "This is on a cd-r" and yet people still think its a legal copy of some amazing software. yet alone if they realised they could still get done for it.

    EDIT: i did send an e-mail to adobe anyway. im not bothered if they dont reply. least they cant say I havent tryed to show them that their software is being sold illegally.

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    Originally posted by Flumps
    Ive got nothing else to do with my spare time so i think i might report all these people to ebay now hehe.

    I know im a cruel ***ard but hey its a cruel world.
    Good luck, I used to do that when I was a Computer Lab Assistant in College. From illegal software sold, to movies (new releases currently in the theater, to cds, to "mix cds" or "greatest hits cds" to whatnot else.

    eBay doesn't police their own auctions that much. Mainly if you complain, and it still takes many complaints sometimes to get items removed. Saw a Nirvana "Greatest Hits" double cd for sale a while back on eBay. Funny how it had about 5 Foo Fighter Hits on it. Ebay wouldn't pull it. I gave up on trying to even bother reporting stuff.
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    Surely, if the seller doesn't say in their product description that it's a dodgy copy, and someone buys it. The buyer has done nothing wrong? So even if ebay did hand over the buyer's address to Adobe or whoever, they probably wouldn't be able to do anything to the buyer, because the buyer did nothing wrong.

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    Originally posted by mouldy_punk
    Surely, if the seller doesn't say in their product description that it's a dodgy copy, and someone buys it. The buyer has done nothing wrong? So even if ebay did hand over the buyer's address to Adobe or whoever, they probably wouldn't be able to do anything to the buyer, because the buyer did nothing wrong.
    Let's recover the facts.

    Auction Here
    Winning bid: £6.79

    "The software is supplied on CDR with its own instructions but with no box or manual.

    THIS IS NOT A 30 DAY TRIAL!

    This product will come on an cdr, which will include a serial number for registration. "

    Hmm...legit software on a CDR ??? Really, use that grey mass up there between your ears a bit. £6.79 for "Adobe PhotoShop CS2 Version 9 and Image Ready CS2" ?? on CDR???

    You have to be downright ignorant to think its "LEGIT".

    Guessing the seller is female due to the amount of thongs they have purchased

    That or a cross dresser.

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