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    Google's AdSense,

    Hiya..., i'm thinking of getting goole's adsense where you place an ad on your website and generate revenue each time a user clicks on an ad. Goole dosent specify this until you register with them, is there anybody here who use googles adsense? I'd love to know how much can be generated per click..., as well as the use of their search engine. Ive also heard something about

    Yahoo launching something similar..., any news on Yahoo? I'd like to go for the one that will pay out more per click..., going to love it then!

    Anyways i hope somebody will let me know whether its worth placing an AD.



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    you can google the answer





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    lol ive been doing that for the past hour not much luck tbh..., maybe you can give it a try yourself for me, ive tryed all the nannie crannies but nothing seems to give me a direct answer. lol, oh well um just looking for somebody who has already implemented this..., or even who can tell me how much per click is earned.

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    It really depends on the keywords. Some keywords are worth dollars each, other are worth 5 cents.

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    The click results depend on your content and even then it will depend on what ads are shown. It can vary between 2 cents to $XX, but you need the content to attract the ads first. You can't just bung them on any old site and expect to make a fortune. Work on getting your site up to par for what you are targetting.
    If you donít like the road youíre walking on, start paving a new one.

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    thanks for that..., i know what you mean it all depends..., you say it can be anything between 2 cents per click to $xx..., so it varies? So it will be Google that determines how much i will earn per click..., am i right?

    Its for an online Community Forum of mine, also how about the search engine? will that generate the same revenue as the ads or more?

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    The price for click is determined not by Google, but by the advertiser. Some keywords are more expensive than the others. That mainly depends on the niche and it's competition.

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    ahh i see..., thanks buddies! Oh and the google search engine..., does it generate similar revenue depending on what the user searches? Also any body have any news in regards to Yahoo launching something similar?

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    I don't know about Yahoo's plan to launch a content network ala Google Adsense.

    A few things about Adsense:

    1. Google places ads on your site based on your site's content. It's not going to serve ads about video cameras to a site devoted to feminine hygeine.

    2. You can only make a good deal of money on Adsense if you get a lot of visitors to your site.

    3. You'll only get a lot of visitors to your site if the site is popular with the search engines.

    4. You can only get popular with the search engines if you have great content that others like and link to because they think your site is great.

    I guess what I'm saying is that you're putting the cart before the horse if you don't have a content rich site to begin with and secondly sufficient traffic built up. Seems like you're worrying about how you are going to cash in on your website before the content and traffic but I might be wrong.
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    lol people think i havent read about adsense....., my question is soley based around how much a person will get per click..., not how much i will make a month.., or how to be strategic to make money i know the inside outs about traffic..., no traffic = noi pua! lol i'm not worried about how much i'll be making..., i just wanted to know how much is provided per click..., so i think anon-e-mouse has kindly explained to me, and has more or less answered my question...., now that people have been so eager to tell me about how strategic i need to be with adsense fireaway!

    So..., need to be on search engines..., i am already on page 1 of googles search engine with my .net down side is its right under a porn site...! lol i may change my metas and description see if that makes a difference..., any more ideas of how to get the best out of my Adsense are very much welcome!

    To DevilDog it seems like you have some idea about this sort of stuff..., more suggestions on how to get the full potential out of them are very much welcome, must with their T&C.

    Many Thanks!

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    Sometimes people clicks on my google ads, liek 3 times, and it dont give me nothing, so there is some things there...

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    I'm not sure what page you're going to try Adsense on but there is one strategy that I've heard from many sources that improves Adsense revenue but it obviously depends on the site type. This is what I do for the adsense ads I place on "information" pages that would not normally garner any other revenue:

    1. Place the Adsense ads in a <div> tag below the heading of the page so that it floats left and the page text flows naturally around the ad text.

    2. The 240x240 ad seems to work nicely

    3. Make the ad text the same color as the page text and the ad background the same color as the page background with no lines around the ad.

    The ad flows very naturally, does not look garish, and the user can very easily read down and around the ad. The ad is above the fold but does not appear as a blatant ad.

    Might not be ideal in all circumstances but does generally work.

    Amount you'll make per click will depend on what people are bidding on in relation to your content. If you have a popular website in a category that there is high cost click competition then your revenue will be higher per click than obscure or general categories.
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    np thanks alot..., i just need to sign up with them and see how things start rolling..., i'll be back with some news!

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    yes it all varies really....

    with my old site i was earning next to nothing..... then i changed the site design (content stayed more or less the same) and my google adsense earnings have gone up by about 400%.

    still i only make like $8 a day .... lol

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    $8 dollars a day?? thats a lot you know!! you could live off it lol!! how much traffic do you get? i'd like to see your site..., can you pm me it?

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    $8 a day? You're lucky, I make a measily $0.50 a day, if I'm lucky.

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    Originally posted by matt2kjones
    with my old site i was earning next to nothing..... then i changed the site design (content stayed more or less the same) and my google adsense earnings have gone up by about 400%.
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    If the content was the same, and you got a 400% jump in revenue just by site design, could you share some tips with us?

    Originally posted by devildog
    3. Make the ad text the same color as the page text and the ad background the same color as the page background with no lines around the ad.
    Don't you think it is a bit rude to your visitors by camouflaging the ads? The idea is to hope that your visitor knows that they are clicking on ads.

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    Originally posted by hellind2
    Don't you think it is a bit rude to your visitors by camouflaging the ads? The idea is to hope that your visitor knows that they are clicking on ads.
    It would be "rude" if they were, in fact, camoflagued. If you actually haven't seen it then you should reserve judgement. It says Ads by Google up on the top of the ads and they are quite clearly ads but they don't stand out starkly or unnaturally like a pink block with yellow letters and allow your content to flow around it. It allows you to preserve the design and feel of your page rather than having one element that sticks out like a sore thumb. It's not about hiding that they are ads but making your content flow in a way around it that allows the ads to be placed near the top but for the user to not be too distracted by the ads so they can read around them.
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    Originally posted by hellind2


    Don't you think it is a bit rude to your visitors by camouflaging the ads? The idea is to hope that your visitor knows that they are clicking on ads.
    Not really. I prefer the camouflaged ads to the obnoxiously obvious ones.

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    Originally posted by matt2kjones
    yes it all varies really....

    with my old site i was earning next to nothing..... then i changed the site design (content stayed more or less the same) and my google adsense earnings have gone up by about 400%.

    still i only make like $8 a day .... lol
    Ok matt2kjones where have you gone dude?? i'd really like to know about the $8 you generate!

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    Invest that $8/day in a fund that averages 10% and you'll have a nice retirement.

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    Originally posted by DevilDog
    It would be "rude" if they were, in fact, camoflagued. If you actually haven't seen it then you should reserve judgement. It says Ads by Google up on the top of the ads and they are quite clearly ads but .....
    I didn't mean you camouflagued your ads, it was a IF question. Your = generic.

    Anyway, I was referring to Google ads where the border had been removed, the 'Ads by Google' doesn't help in most cases as to which direction the ads are.

    WHT top banner ads is right in the center of the screen, all of us are forced to see it, but it is okay, we know it is an ad.

    But there are some sites where people click on ads thinking they are clicking on related articles from same website. I am not comfortable with such practises.

    One better suggestion was to use bright colours (pref red) to capture visitors attention.

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    Originally posted by hellind2
    I didn't mean you camouflagued your ads, it was a IF question. Your = generic.
    I didn't think you were attacking me. I was clarifying and explaining because it seemed I had been misinterpreted as advocating camoflague of ads.

    I know there are some who try to make ads look like articles. My point was to naturally improve the look of the ads. I've been burned too much by click fraud in my own advertising efforts and would never promote any ideas that would hurt folks who use the Adsense network.
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    You need tons of content especially if your not in high paying region like me, got almost 3000 pages (some 2000 in english) and barley made it to $3-4 with 1500 unique visitor a day before Bourbon update killed my site, now I'm down to nickels and quarters.
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    can any one help me in getting the best keywords ??
    like the ones whose cpm rates are really high?

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    Originally posted by kayz
    Ok matt2kjones where have you gone dude?? i'd really like to know about the $8 you generate!
    The site that earns that is http://www.tlm-project.org

    its basically a site that mirrors tons of linux distributions so people have a central place to download many distributions from.

    main reason we started it was because more and more people are getting into linux and using it on home computer systems.

    stats for the site are here: http://stats.digitallyhosted.com/tlm-project.org/

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    can any one help me in getting the best keywords ??
    like the ones whose cpm rates are really high?

    There are a lot of keyword list that you can get for free. I would not recommend paying for any lists. Use them as a guide to choose some keywords that fit your content. Scan the lists for keywords that you might no have thought about.

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    i dont know if my response to this thread would be relevant. but i once had adsense on my site. initially i made 6bucks and above and slowly my advertising was known to more of my friends and they started out clicking for me. My earning was around 20-25bucks a day, this went on for like 4 days and when my total earning was like 138. my account was suspended with reason 'i was using bots to click on the advertisements'. i was furious and i emailed the support team of google adsense requesting that they show me whats going on with the disabling of my account and to show me that it was bots that was generating the clicks. they replied me in a day saying that they are very sorry about disabling my account and also they cant disclose how they analyze and its bots that are behind all the clicks.

    everything just ended. and i seriously doubt google adsense now.

    well sorry but its a bad experience with adsense for me.

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    hello hobzip ,
    are those keywords real??
    will it pay that much ?

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    One of the irony's about Google is that although the founders claim some altruistic goals, they run their business very secretively in many ways.

    For Google adsense, Google will "revenue share" the income that is produced by clickthru's on the ads.

    Advertisers bid against each other to determine the ppc (pay-per-click) price so the exact cost of a click is not known in advance.

    However, Google will not disclose the split (revenue share) and reserves the right to change it at any time.

    Unlike other advertising systems, Google will not tell you that 10%, 25%, 50%, (or whatever %) of the ppc revenue is shared with the site owner.

    This means other than total payouts, the site owner has no way to audit the payouts and must totally trust Google to be honest and fair.&nbsp;


    I've heard there are some content sites that are trying to "game" Adsense the same way that SEO people try to get top search engine rankings.

    (What they are supposedly doing is creating websites purely for the purpose of making Adsense revenue.&nbsp; They figure out the highest paying keywords and then design websites completely from scratch solely to get ranked high on those keywords and gain traffic.&nbsp; Apparently, they fill the pages with lots of fluff, but real information and then try to profit from the revenue but have no real interest in the content matter itself.)
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    Originally posted by hotneomatrix
    hello hobzip ,
    are those keywords real??
    will it pay that much ?
    Those keywords are real and that is the amount that was returned by Google's traffic estimator tool.

    Will Google pay that much. Absolutely not.

    These keywords will pay out a lot more that other keyword. So by using my list or other lists that are available you can increase revenue by using the higher paying words. You can also get suggestions on keywords that you may not have thought about that are relevant to your content.

    Work on great content and you will see increasing payouts and results.

    I hope this helps.


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    Well i actually wouldnt suggest using Google Adsense, I was suspended as well for getting many hits, i think in one month i earned $350 of tutorial website. And when i got suspended i closed the tutorial website, and i am never using adsense ever.

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    Originally posted by MNV Studios
    Well i actually wouldnt suggest using Google Adsense, I was suspended as well for getting many hits, i think in one month i earned $350 of tutorial website. And when i got suspended i closed the tutorial website, and i am never using adsense ever.
    And I was please with $10 - $20 a month

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    just assume one earns $20+ bucks a day, 10 days = 200 , 100days = 2000, a year = 6000+.

    i wouldnt believe they'l pay. so yea ive no longer trusted adsense.

    maybe they're fine with people earning few cents per day. and they'l slowly rip them off. aha

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    as mistkron says.. i dnt think they will pay big..
    google adsense is well known for suspending accounts without any kind of proof given to us..
    they jst say coz of the privacy or whatvea rules.. they cant show the reasons for suspending our sites..
    And all they say is ..we used some bots or some invalid click generations..

    but the only advantage is .. no other advertisers/ affiliates pay as high as google does.. even if itz jst for a few months ..

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    I have to disagree completely. While I am not very successful with Adsense (been with it for almost 2 months) my brother is. I will not tell the amount, but let's just say the total I make in one month is what he makes in a single day. He has been with Adsense for something like a year and half now.

    Google does pay, and if you're successful, Google does pay big.

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    Originally posted by TieuDieuTu
    I have to disagree completely. While I am not very successful with Adsense (been with it for almost 2 months) my brother is. I will not tell the amount, but let's just say the total I make in one month is what he makes in a single day. He has been with Adsense for something like a year and half now.

    Google does pay, and if you're successful, Google does pay big.
    what kinda site does your brother operates, may i know ?

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    yeah google does pay. my best friend runs a love resource site and google pays dilligently every month. and it's not a small sum. so yeah. dont write off google like that.
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    but then again who would justify us(the suspended users) then ?
    ( even when we are true to all clicks, not some 3rd party software as mentioned )

    well , just wondering

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    Originally posted by mistkron
    what kinda site does your brother operates, may i know ?
    I don't know all of his sites as he has quite a huge network. Recently one of his web hosts just folded one night caused him to lose one of his best sights. He just reformatted his hard drive earlier, so yeah, he lost everything. I don't know that site though, but I do know his very first website, it's a cell phone website.

    All in all, I have every reason to believe Google delivers what they promise. As long as you don't try to cheat the system, just let your visitors do what they want with the Adsense, and don't write any robots to generate false clicks, you have nothing to worry about.

    Google seems like a very good and honest company to work with. Will they grow to be another Microsoft with all kind of shaddy tacticks, we will have to wait to findout.

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