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05-27-2005, 06:09 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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How much space do you use on your dedicated?
Just wondered out of intrested how much space people do actually use on their dedicated. In these days of big cheap hard disks do you really need all that storage?
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05-27-2005, 06:11 PM #2Junior Guru Wannabe
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In Webhosting...
Client space, client backups, personal space..
The bigger hard drives are the better deal. You may not use the space, but it will save you a future upgrade (and downtime) for just a couple bucks more.
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05-27-2005, 06:13 PM #3Disabled
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/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
3.5T 3.4T 17G 100% /mnt
/dev/mapper/fwt-lvol0
5.1T 3.5T 1.7T 68% /usr/www
I dunno, we don't use much
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05-27-2005, 06:23 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Tuplisystem: Your just showing off now aren't you
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05-27-2005, 06:56 PM #5Junior Guru
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Servers we use for webhosting have less than 10 gigs used per machine ..... (about 100 accounts per machine)
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05-27-2005, 07:06 PM #6Junior Guru Wannabe
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Currently we use around 20GB space, we have dual 80GB Harddrives. As Mike_Clory said, it saves an upgrade in the future.
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05-27-2005, 07:08 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by oshawa
Servers we use for webhosting have less than 10 gigs used per machine ..... (about 100 accounts per machine)
I'm not in the business to make CPU and Drive manufacturers' wealthy, but they sure make our end users agonize over MHz, GHz, and GB's.
Customers always overbuy, which is frustrating. I hate seeing people blow money.██ Ray Womack @ atOmicVPS LTD
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05-27-2005, 07:09 PM #8Junior Guru Wannabe
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10 gigs on lower end servers I would imagine.
If you offer lots of space, people will use lots. Which is why i laugh when i see things like "Unmetered diskspace. We will continue to upgrade our hard drives to meet your needs".
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05-27-2005, 07:11 PM #9Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by PSFServers
Customers always overbuy, which is frustrating. I hate seeing people blow money.
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05-27-2005, 07:12 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by DoTz
Currently we use around 20GB space, we have dual 80GB Harddrives. As Mike_Clory said, it saves an upgrade in the future.
Zachary
It's your money, you can throw it away; the "upgrading in the future" argument does not mean you are married to a particular drive size in my book.██ Ray Womack @ atOmicVPS LTD
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05-27-2005, 07:16 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by PSFServers
80 GB is a lotta damn data. That seems to be the minimum drive spec now for servers, however, we rarely have anyone that comes close to hitting the capacity of a 40 GB drive.
I'm not in the business to make CPU and Drive manufacturers' wealthy, but they sure make our end users agonize over MHz, GHz, and GB's.
Customers always overbuy, which is frustrating. I hate seeing people blow money.
hardware price went down so...why not get a better server?
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05-27-2005, 07:17 PM #12Managed Hosting Expert
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Varies really, I've got boxes from 10gb to around 400gb.
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05-27-2005, 07:17 PM #13Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by PSFServers
I call "upgrading in the future" reimaging to a larger drive, not paying a premium each month that you don't actually use the capacity.
It's your money, you can throw it away; the "upgrading in the future" argument does not mean you are married to a particular drive size in my book.
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05-27-2005, 07:22 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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Pricing of raw hardware is difficult for any provider. Yes, a provider can chose to do a 120, 160 GB drive for the same price as an 80 GB drive, because there is not much initinal cost difference in a 3 year amotization plan.
Then you have to think, If I sell a guy 300 GB hard drive, will he be slamming the 1000 GB of BW that we are overselling to him?
Same argument holds for memory.
This is why providers have nice and low entry level machines, then have an exponential cost curve for upgrades. It is this reason only. BW is the single biggest expense. They figure if you have a 300 GB machine packed full of 4GB DDR that you will really be stressing the network.
My point is simply this. Just get an 80 GB drive, and when you need a bigger drive, upgrade the damn thing. Save your self on the monthly bill. Chances are you will never need more than 80 GB.██ Ray Womack @ atOmicVPS LTD
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05-28-2005, 12:37 PM #15Junior Guru Wannabe
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Besides, when you go to order a server, you wind up spending more because you have to customize your box to fit a smaller HD. I like to have atleast a P4 2.8GHz for performance reasons, but if I chose to have a 40GB HD, rather than the 80 it comes with, I would wind up spending more for the 40GB HD.
My 2 cents again
Zachary
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05-28-2005, 02:16 PM #16Web Hosting Guru
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I dont use much hard drive space on my systems in exception to my media box which has about 200GB written to it's drives. I have dual 120GB drives on that system but I highly doubt I'll surpass that limitation.
Across my other systems I doubt the maximum is 40G per machine. However I find myself pushing the processors to their maximum
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05-28-2005, 02:23 PM #17Web Hosting Guru
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Our Pentium 4 boxes, with 80 GB IDE, and 2 GB RAM, at a near full capacity (according to our own limits), use more or less 20 GB (/home).
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05-28-2005, 03:36 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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I guess for me it's about redundancy I backup locally then offsite Also I hold twice as much drive space as I sell just in case. Drive space is cheap there's no reason to get a small drive and generally when you get a small drive your using older technology I would rather get something new than take the chance on an old 40gb drive that might have been used before.
But then again all of our servers are Dual Xeon so 2 80gb's and a 160 gb backup isn't all that big of a deal. I guess if I were using celeron / semphron servers it would be a bit excessive.
Here's one of my web servers
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Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda5 3099260 324572 2617256 12% /
/dev/hda1 101086 13233 82634 14% /boot
/dev/hda8 49983444 268120 47176256 1% /home
/dev/hda7 1035660 36508 946544 4% /tmp
/dev/hda3 10317860 2383592 7410148 25% /usr
/dev/hda2 10317860 723100 9070640 8% /var
/dev/hdc1 115377640 16285252 93231476 15% /backup
/dev/hdd1 76920416 27135236 45877772 38% /home2
/tmp 1035660 36508 946544 4% /var/tmpLast edited by Dave W; 05-28-2005 at 03:41 PM.
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05-28-2005, 04:52 PM #19Junior Guru Wannabe
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Next time use df -h and place the output in [code] tags.
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05-28-2005, 08:27 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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was mainly after percentages and in a hurry but yesthat would look a lot better.
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05-28-2005, 08:50 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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1 80GB and a 40GB back up...running close to 10 personal sites, 1 large forum 80-120 online, 1 smaller forum 10-35 online, 1 image hosting site hosting close to 5000 pics so far and the remainder are mostly html sites...
Code:Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3 75G 9.4G 62G 14% / /dev/hda1 99M 20M 74M 22% /boot none 497M 0 497M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hdc1 38G 3.2G 33G 9% /backup
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05-28-2005, 09:31 PM #22Temporarily Suspended
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Using between 15GB - 50GB for main HDDs, and up to 70GB for backups
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05-29-2005, 03:05 AM #23Junior Guru Wannabe
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we use 58G for a Dual Xen box, we have daul 160G HD on the server. Big HD give us flexibility of deploying plan structures
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05-29-2005, 06:31 PM #24Disabled
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Originally posted by mike_Clory
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05-29-2005, 08:27 PM #25Retired Moderator
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We use anything from a few GB to 4TB. It really depends on the usage of the system.
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