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    Desperatly TRYING to find a Decent host!

    Hi - I have been looking and looking for a good host but cannot find one! I am starting a site based on college jokes and pictures and movies and stuff and may have some adult content -- which rules out all the top web site hosters.

    Can anyone recommed a good stable and fast host that will allow adult content, and be able to upgrade my service if/when I need to?

    I want roughly 100gb transfer (and automatic billing for additional gb, not auto shutdown!)
    unlimted subdomains
    10 or > domains
    speed and realibility

    I am looking for something that would cost around $20 a month.

    Any sugestions? The best I have found is HostMerit -- but I have found no reviews of them...

    Thankkkkks for any help!!!

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    $20 a month won't help you get a decent host with your requirements. What is your required disk space as well?
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    You are asking for a lot of transfer. However, there are some hosts that might give you that for around $20/month
    I am using a few myself, after researching around.
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    ROFL....

    I want a Hummer but I don't want to pay more than the cost of a entry-level used Fiat. Any idea where I can find that?


    Guys... if you want a quality host, it is going to cost more than dinner for 2 at McDonald's. $20 doesn't even cover 1/3 of the the wholesale cost of 100 GB of transfer on a top-quality provider. And that is just transit... that doesn't include the cost of the server itself, electricity, racks, network allocations, tech staff (payroll + benefits) who remember are there 24/7 watching over your server, phones, workstations, insurance, ETC..... Cheap can be had anywhere, but "cheap" and "decent" are completely counterintuitive in Business 101.

    It's not fair for customers to expect the host to foot the cost of running customers' website excesses. That makes for negative cash flow, which sets the host up to go out of business in just a few months. And we'll see you back here then whining about how your host just "disappeared" without any warning, and how terrible they are! Well no, what was terrible was their failing to make people pay for their fair share of resources used...


    If you adjust your search to a more realistic budget, the search for a good host will be pretty easy, actually.


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    Re: Desperatly TRYING to find a Decent host!

    Originally posted by Dmonkeyness
    Hi - I have been looking and looking for a good host but cannot find one! I am starting a site based on college jokes and pictures and movies and stuff and may have some adult content -- which rules out all the top web site hosters.

    Can anyone recommed a good stable and fast host that will allow adult content, and be able to upgrade my service if/when I need to?

    I want roughly 100gb transfer (and automatic billing for additional gb, not auto shutdown!)
    unlimted subdomains
    10 or > domains
    speed and realibility

    I am looking for something that would cost around $20 a month.

    Any sugestions? The best I have found is HostMerit -- but I have found no reviews of them...



    I would advise you to use www.micfo.com.

    I'm their client, and i'm very happy - 120gb per month, 3 gb disk and 18 domains.


    Very reliable and good serivce.


    Thankkkkks for any help!!!

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    Re: Desperatly TRYING to find a Decent host!

    Originally posted by Dmonkeyness
    Hi - I have been looking and looking for a good host but cannot find one! I am starting a site based on college jokes and pictures and movies and stuff and may have some adult content -- which rules out all the top web site hosters.

    Can anyone recommed a good stable and fast host that will allow adult content, and be able to upgrade my service if/when I need to?

    I want roughly 100gb transfer (and automatic billing for additional gb, not auto shutdown!)
    unlimted subdomains
    10 or > domains
    speed and realibility

    I am looking for something that would cost around $20 a month.

    Any sugestions? The best I have found is HostMerit -- but I have found no reviews of them...




    Thankkkkks for any help!!!
    I would advise you to use www.micfo.com.

    I'm their client, and i'm very happy - 120gb per month, 3 gb disk and 18 domains.


    Very reliable and good serivce.

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    Dmonkeyness,

    If you do find a host that offers everything you need for that price, I doubt they will offer the quality you desire. But I'm sure you'll find the right one, best of luck to you.

    Use the host quote feature on WHT or just look in the Hosting Offers section, you'll find many decent hosts.

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    rorax how much do you pay matey ?

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    I'm am sorry, let me adjust my requirments....

    I was *hopeing to pay around $20 a month -- but I do not mind paying more for good service -- my main requirment is very little downtime. More background here - I am in college now and don't have to much money to start off, but I will be more than happy to pay more than $100 a month when (hopefully) my sites gets big and requires much more.

    I am, like many here - very tired of hosting companies selling packages similar to my initial requirments, but then not actually letting you use it. Example -- companies not allowing you to have picture galeries or web cams -- although you pay for a set bandwith -- you are in reality not allowed to use it. I have found countless web host offering crazy amount of space and bandwith for say $8 a month - but then after you spend 2 hours reading through their contract -- you find that you are only to actually use that amount if you pages are all basicly text -- which they know that is not going to happen.

    So any suggestions? I just want a reliable company that doesnt have outrageous cost, and will allow adult content. -- and any thoughts on HostMerit?

    Thanks!

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    Dmonkeyness,

    There are a number of providers that specialize in adult content who would more than meet needs. A couple of options are to search WHT for "adult content" to see some recommendations, as well you might want to check some of the adult webmaster forums for their recommendations (like weboverdrive, netpond, webmasterlinkup etc.). Adult providers typically work with high bandwidth users, so you shouldn't find any "hidden surprises" in their TOS.

    Best of luck in your search.

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    I doubt micfo provides Adult hosting?
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    All i have to say is 100Gb bandwith..... do you know how much that is? if your starting out you wont use no-where near that.
    I trust youll make a choice for the better.
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    Originally posted by CSDesk
    I doubt micfo provides Adult hosting?
    No they don't, is against their TOS.
    However, DreamHost has nothing against "adult" content in their TOS. (Neither does Lunarpages, BDW.)
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    Originally posted by Nadabrahma
    However, DreamHost has nothing against "adult" content in their TOS. (Neither does Lunarpages, BDW.)
    Let me preface this by saying that I have no personal experience with DreamHost or Lunarpages, so I'm not sure about their policies, but hosting adult content can be a little tricky with some hosts. I have found that it is best to go with a host that explicitly addresses the allowing of adult content in it's TOS rather than one that simply doesn't have anything stated against it. If the site does become successful, it would be unfortunate to discover that the host has issues with it and a move becomes necessary. Like they say, measure twice and cut once.

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    Yes, that is exactly what I am trying to do -- my fear is that my site becoms very sucessful and then I get shut down b/c my hosting company doesnt like it!

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    This may be slightly off topic - but does anyone know of a way that I could purchasing hosting from two different companies and then if there is ever either downtime or one decides to shut me down - it could automatically switch to the other company? The only way I could think of would be DDNS, but I dont think that can work for a general website for the public..

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    I would disagree with net-trend, I think that $20.00 a month would be enough for exactly what Dmonkeyness needs, just gotta look around the forums.
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    Is it for Porno sites, or just normal legal adult content?
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    With the flexablity of a larger budget I am sure you can find quality (If I read this right)...Browse the forum and search is your friend..[;->

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    Dmonkeyness it seems you have plans for a website that may end up in adult territory and you are looking for a host that does not charge to much, but has enough room for you when/if your website pick up.

    Then I would suggest you start your search amongst the adult webhosts since by signing up with a host that allow adult material you dont have to worry about that problem.

    Then for your needs for bandwidth I would suggest you specify that you are looking for a host that can handle a possible rapid growth with no problem, but charge you for your current usage until then.

    So, compile a letter explaining your predicament and send it out to some companies and start a dialog and I am sure you will find some one to help you out. I would myself, but unfortunately I have no server available for adult material.

    Good luck with the project and be sure to post links to it when you get it off to ground, it sounds interesting

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    Originally posted by Nadabrahma
    No they don't, is against their TOS.
    However, DreamHost has nothing against "adult" content in their TOS. (Neither does Lunarpages, BDW.)
    Greetings,

    Where exactly did you get that from? Nothing is mentioned in within the AUP/TOU about adult contents. By searching through our knowledge-base/fourms, you'll find out that we host all kind of legal adult websites, but they're kept totally spearate from non-adult websites. Which means there are servers only hosting adult websites.
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    Originally posted by Amir
    Greetings,

    Where exactly did you get that from? Nothing is mentioned in within the AUP/TOU about adult contents. By searching through our knowledge-base/fourms, you'll find out that we host all kind of legal adult websites, but they're kept totally spearate from non-adult websites. Which means there are servers only hosting adult websites.
    Thanks for the comment!
    I distinctly recall reading your TOS some months ago and came to the conclusion I stated. However, perhaps you changed that document since then.... OR I could have misinterpred something?
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    PS: OK, I looked again in the TOS at Micfo. And I based my original remark on the following:

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    05. User hereby agrees that any material submitted for publication on Micfo.com through user's account(s) does not violate or infringe any copyright, trademark, patent, statutory, common law or proprietary rights of others, or contain anything obscene or libelous. Software intended to facilitate any such violations or infringements may not be stored on Micfo.com.
    ..............................................................................

    Now, "obscene" to me indicates anything commonly referred to as "adult", which inevitably to me means that "adult" content is not permitted at Micfo.
    If you really are, I suggest you update your TOS.
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    Originally posted by Dmonkeyness
    This may be slightly off topic - but does anyone know of a way that I could purchasing hosting from two different companies and then if there is ever either downtime or one decides to shut me down - it could automatically switch to the other company? The only way I could think of would be DDNS, but I dont think that can work for a general website for the public..
    Yup, you can do this quite easily.
    However, you will need access to the DNS records.
    So maybe, what you could do is get dns from a third party (dnsmadeeasy.com or something). Then you just have 2 A records pointing to different IPs.
    OR, just point one nameservers to one ISP, and one to the other ISP.

    Then you've got to consider, how do you keep your content up to date on both servers? Emails, MySQL?
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    Originally posted by cerealuk
    rorax how much do you pay matey ?

    You'll pay 20$ for monthly contract, or 15$ if you sign up for a year.

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    Originally posted by Nadabrahma
    Now, "obscene" to me indicates anything commonly referred to as "adult", which inevitably to me means that "adult" content is not permitted at Micfo.
    In the US, "obscene" has a specific legal meaning imparted to it by certain Supreme Court decisions. The word you're looking for is "indecent", which is protected speech under the First Amendment, while "obscene" generally is not.

    But I am not a lawyer.

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    Many hosts out there that can offer what you need.

    Best thing to do is check on various directories and then shortlist them.

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    This and your conern about being shut down because the host does not like your content are real concerns D. There are many hosts who subject their customers to moral standards. Even though the same are operating lawfully.

    Searching the forum for the term "adult" and reading thru the threads will present you with several hosts participating in this forum that will be able to reliably meet your needs. Most will be reachable thru their signatures. Regarding Host-Merit:

    The lack of reviews/feedback on hosts participating (high post count) in this or other popular forums should not be considered negative. In fact given the propensity of people to give negative feedback before positive feedback this should be considered a plus/positive. People like yourself often happen along these forums in search of a good host. Once found many do not return. This is expected since their mission has been successfully accomplished.

    Originally posted by Dmonkeyness
    I'm am sorry, let me adjust my requirments....

    I was *hopeing to pay around $20 a month -- but I do not mind paying more for good service -- my main requirment is very little downtime. More background here - I am in college now and don't have to much money to start off, but I will be more than happy to pay more than $100 a month when (hopefully) my sites gets big and requires much more.

    I am, like many here - very tired of hosting companies selling packages similar to my initial requirments, but then not actually letting you use it. Example -- companies not allowing you to have picture galeries or web cams -- although you pay for a set bandwith -- you are in reality not allowed to use it. I have found countless web host offering crazy amount of space and bandwith for say $8 a month - but then after you spend 2 hours reading through their contract -- you find that you are only to actually use that amount if you pages are all basicly text -- which they know that is not going to happen.

    So any suggestions? I just want a reliable company that doesnt have outrageous cost, and will allow adult content. -- and any thoughts on HostMerit?

    Thanks!

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    This is doable. There are several 3rd party DNS services that will allow this type of failover. Another option would be mirrored sites. We have several customers running mirrors for various reasons. However one controversial site we host has been subjected to the same oppression you fear. They even went as far as to publish their reason for mirroring on their homepage.

    Originally posted by Dmonkeyness
    This may be slightly off topic - but does anyone know of a way that I could purchasing hosting from two different companies and then if there is ever either downtime or one decides to shut me down - it could automatically switch to the other company? The only way I could think of would be DDNS, but I dont think that can work for a general website for the public..

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    lol if I were a prospective customer I would HOPE I could get service and support faster then this:

    Please notice that due to the high request of our adult web hosting plans, your account may take up to three days before setup.

    Originally posted by dcoulombe
    with http://www.hopehost.com/adult.php you get 250GB for 34.99$
    You might want to watch out for the hidden fees they say don't exist too:

    2e. SERVICE CHANGES. You are allowed to change your Web Site Hosting package once for free. An example of changing your service means moving from an FTP account to a FrontPage account or from Monthly billing to Yearly billing. After moving once you will be charged $14.99 per alteration.
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    Originally posted by PTNHosting
    Is it for Porno sites, or just normal legal adult content?
    The site I am trying to start is by no means a porno site, it is simply a comedy/humor site -- but I am anticipating some nudity. Users will be able to post funny pictures from college -- there are many of these sites around -- and most pictures are college kids doing stupid drunk things, and some are topless college girls doing stupid drunk things - so thats what I mean by adult content...

    I have searched on this forum and others for adult host but I just can't find one yet that I get a "good feeling about" -- I don't want to go with some host called horneyhosting or anything -- I want to find a legitiamate company that people in the field trust. I have been around and around with crappy crappy webhosts - for my small sites, but now that I want to start a site with potential, I demand a decent host...

    Many of the hosts I am searching through that I get a "good feeling" about - example lunarpages, have in there TOS no obscene stuff, or similar -- and what I am afrid this means is when my site gets big and I actually use all my bandwith allowed -- they will use this as a way to shut me down...

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    Well -- I've researching Micfo for just the last 30 minutes or so and they seem like maybe they are the answer!

    What do you all think?

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    Originally posted by Dmonkeyness
    Well -- I've researching Micfo for just the last 30 minutes or so and they seem like maybe they are the answer!

    What do you all think?

    I think you won't be disappointed. I'm their client, and i'm very happy.

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    Whenever I see such threads, I have a few questions:
    1. If you are really desparate, are you desparate enough to pay a decent price for it? Afterall you wanted a decent host.
    2. If you are not willing to pay a decent price, why are you expecting hosts to be decent for you?
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    Everyone's right - if you want a decent service (like the one you want), you'll need to be willing to pay a decent price.

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    Originally posted by sprintserve
    Whenever I see such threads, I have a few questions:
    1. If you are really desparate, are you desparate enough to pay a decent price for it? Afterall you wanted a decent host.
    2. If you are not willing to pay a decent price, why are you expecting hosts to be decent for you?
    BTW...This is not in reference to the thread starter unless he really expects to get what he has asked for ...at $20 per mo...Then if the shoe fits..
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    Answer to #1...

    No, If I was willing to pay a fair (not market price since that is an illusion created by so many fly by night or poor business planned hosts) price I would have SO many good choices and would not really need to even start this thread.

    Answer to #2

    Well Yes, if the host was willing to take my money and promise me the world...he should deliver even if it is impossible.

    Your forgot #3.

    I'll be back with the same basic thread in 3-9 months from now unless by some miracle I find and up and coming company that is selling at very low prices only to build a good reputation...Odds are lottery odds...but hey SOMEONE wins the lottery every week .

    And that thread will begin..."they used to be good (back when the server was basically empty and I didn't know it) but they have really gone downhill over the past few months (as they have continued to OVERsell and dense pack the server to a crawl...and still are barely breakin even) and they have stopped answering support tickets (cause what can they really say...we screwed you ???).

    Of course I could be wrong.......

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    Originally posted by Beachcomber
    Of course I could be wrong.......
    Hahaha. How could you be wrong? You just described the WHT philosophy.
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    Originally posted by sigma
    In the US, "obscene" has a specific legal meaning imparted to it by certain Supreme Court decisions. The word you're looking for is "indecent", which is protected speech under the First Amendment, while "obscene" generally is not.

    But I am not a lawyer.

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    Thanx for this illuminating comment on "obscene"! Hmmm, I guess I'll ask some lawyer about EXACTLY what is really meant by that word in a legal document.... *blushing already*
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    Originally posted by sprintserve
    Whenever I see such threads, I have a few questions:
    1. If you are really desparate, are you desparate enough to pay a decent price for it? Afterall you wanted a decent host.
    2. If you are not willing to pay a decent price, why are you expecting hosts to be decent for you?
    I don't know what a decent price is! Web hosts offer the same packages of prices at all ranges. Just because hosting cost more does not mean it is better! I mean I could start my own hosting business off of my cable modem in my appt and charge high rates -- that doesn't mean I am a good host -- do you get what I mean?

    Example: This company has more than what I intially wanted for less than $20 a month: http://www.site5.com/superhosting/index.php -- I haven't researched them at all -- but I can only guess there is some kind of BS to go along with that where you are not actually allowed to use your bandwith.

    I have chosen now to go with Micfo, and thus far a have been extremnly impressed by their fast and good service and support.

    If there is a "price" for a descent host of what I have asked for --- what is it -- and who offers it?? I had based what I intially said I wanted to pay (20/month) by looking at many differnt hosts offering similar packages for less -- and I thought $20 was much higher than most... The marketing BS by most of the hosting compaines out there have made price comparisions very very difficult... Thus far -- I am very happy with micfo b/c I have found no limitations (the BS I have been refering to) thus far to keep me from using what I purchase.

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