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    Liverpool wins the Champions League :: An awesome game

    A ROUND UP OF THE GAME

    Jerzy Dudek saved two penalties in the shoot-out as Liverpool were crowned European champions in dramatic fashion.
    Paolo Maldini volleyed Milan ahead after just 50 seconds while Hernan Crespo scored twice to put the Italians 3-0 up at the break.

    Steven Gerrard headed a reply, Vladimir Smicer fired the second and Xabi Alonso equalised after his penalty was saved.

    Serginho fired his penalty over the bar and Dudek denied Andrea Pirlo and Andriy Shevchenko to secure the trophy.



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    Goalflashes and major incidents as they happened:
    2245: A jubilant Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard lifts the trophy, which will be kept for ever by the club to mark their fifth success in the competition.

    PENALTY SHOOT-OUT DETAILS

    3-2 to Liverpool Liverpool are champions as Andriy Shevchenko's weakly-driven shot towards the middle of the net is blocked by Jerzy Dudek.

    3-2 to Liverpool Vladimir Smicer, with his last kick in a Liverpool shirt, restores their lead with a cool penalty.

    Andriy Shevchenko must score to keep his side in the match.

    2-2 Kaka makes the most of Dida's efforts by levelling the shoot-out - although Liverpool still have an extra kick to take.

    2-1 to Liverpool Suddenly Milan have a bit of hope as John Arne Riise is denied by a great save from Dida.

    2-1 to Liverpool AC Milan finally get into the shoot-out as Jon Dahl Tomasson easily beats Jerzy Dudek with his effort.

    2-0 to Liverpool Substitute Djibril Cisse sends Dida the wrong way to double Liverpool's advantage and put them in the driving seat.

    1-0 to Liverpool Jerzy Dudek dives to his right to save Andrea Pirlo's spot-kick.

    1-0 to Liverpool Dietmar Hamann fired his penalty into the corner of the net to give Liverpool the advantage.

    0-0 Serginho, possibly put off by Jerzy Dudek dancing around on his goalline, fired the first spot-kick high over the bar.

    AC Milan take the first penalty.

    EXTRA-TIME FULL-TIME AC Milan 3-3 Liverpool AET
    A remarkable night will be decided by penalties after Liverpool's amazing second half comeback.

    Goals from Steven Gerrard, Vladimir Smicer and Xabi Alonso pulled them back into the game after Paolo Maldini and Hernan Crespo with two had put AC Milan 3-0 up at the break.

    120 mins: Time is up but Liverpool have one final chance with a free-kick at the edge of the Milan area.

    The kick is pushed across to John Arne Riise but his shot is blocked and seconds later the whistle is blown to signal full-time and the dreaded penalty shoot-out to settle the match.

    117 mins: Jerzy Dudek makes an absoultely remarkable double save from a shot and header by Andriy Shevchenko, both inside the six-yard box, to deny Milan a probable match-winning fourth goal.

    116 mins: Djibril Cisse is flagged offside again.

    112 mins: Once again Jamie Carragher, who appears to be suffering from cramp, clears for a corner and Rui Costa's flag-kick flies just over the far post.

    111 mins: As Milan bring on their final substitute Rui Costa for Gennaro Gattuso, it is learned that if the match goes to penalties they will be taken at the Milan end of the ground.

    110 mins: Djibril Cisse tries his luck with a low shot from 35 yards but it causes no problems for Dida.

    At the other end Jamie Carragher makes yet another crucial clearance to deny Milan a goalscoring opportunity.

    108 mins: Dietmar Hamann has a shot from the edge of the area deflected for a corner which comes to nothing.

    2200: Milan get the final period of the match under way.

    EXTRA-TIME HALF-TIME AC Milan 3-3 Liverpool
    Neither side can score in the first period of additional time - leaving the match just 15 minutes away from penalties.

    105 mins: Just 15 seconds into additional time at the end of the first period of extra-time Andriy Shevchenko has an angled shot saved by Jerzy Dudek. 104 mins: Milan sportingly put the ball out of play after Vladimir Smicer collapses to the floor. A stretcher is brought on for the Liverpool substitute who is taken off the field and given treatment for cramp.

    103 mins: Steven Gerrard, now helping out at right-back, makes a great block on the right wing and immediately tries to set up an attack but the ball is cleared by Milan.

    101 mins: Jon Dahl Tomasson cannot connect cleanly with a ball from fellow substitute Serginho just eight yards from goal with Djimi Traore's attempt to clear the ball possibly crucially putting him off.

    100 mins: AC Milan substitute Jon Dahl Tomasson is flagged offside as he runs into the Liverpool box.

    95 mins: A late offside flag is raised against Djibril Cisse as he chases a long ball into the Milan area.

    95 mins: Andrea Pirlo puts a long-range free-kick comfortably over the Liverpool bar.

    93 mins: Vladimir Smicer's ball into the Milan area is headed clear by Alessandro Nesta.

    2142: Liverpool kick off the first period of extra-time - the 13th time in 50 European Cup finals the extra 30 minutes has been required.

    FULL-TIME AC Milan 3-3 Liverpool
    Liverpool's remarkable second half comeback is rewarded as they earn extra-time - a scenario which looked extremely unlikely at half-time.

    Goals from Steven Gerrard, Vladimir Smicer and Xabi Alonso pulled them back into the game after Paolo Maldini and Hernan Crespo with two had put AC Milan 3-0 up at the break.

    92 mins: Xabi Alonso makes a cool clearance after Milan threaten once again.

    90 mins: The fourth official signals a minimum of two minutes of additional time.

    88 mins: Jamie Carragher makes a superb saving tackle to nick the ball off the toes of Andriy Shevchenko inside the Liverpool area.

    From the corner, Kaka just fails to divert Jaap Stam's header into the net.

    85 mins: A raft of substitutions take place.

    Liverpool bring on Djibril Cisse for Milan Baros, who could be making his final appearance in a Reds shirt.

    AC Milan replace double-goalscorer Hernan Crespo with former Newcastle striker Jon Dahl Tomasson and Clarence Seedorf with Serginho.

    83 mins: Liverpool's fans start a chorus of "Ole" as their team knock the ball around.

    81 mins: Milan Baros picks up the second booking of the night for a foul on Alessandro Nesta.

    80 mins: Luis Garcia almost gets through but cannot quite control Steven Gerrard's pass.

    The ball then goes straight up the other end and Andriy Shevchenko and Hernan Crespo set the ball up for Kaka but Jamie Carragher saves the situation with a brave tackle.

    76 mins: Jamie Carragher is shown the game's first yellow card for a foul.

    73 mins: Luis Garcia shrugs off the challenge of Clarence Seedorf inside the penalty area but is penalised for a foul.

    71 mins: At the other end Steven Gerrard runs on to a loose ball and hammers a fierce shot which flies not too far over the bar.

    70 mins: Djimi Traore saves Liverpool by clearing off the line from Andriy Shevchenko after a fumble by Jerzy Dudek sets up the chance. It is the second time the Ukrainian has been denied by a goalline clearance during the match.

    63 mins: Vladimir Smicer is determined to make his farewell appearance a memorable one as he hits a shot from 20 yards which Dida manages to save.

    62 mins: Milan suddenly wake up and Clarence Seedorf volleys wide of the near post from just outside the area.

    59 mins: GOAL AC Milan 3-3 Liverpool
    Dramatic scenes as Liverpool are awarded a penalty after Gennaro Gattuso floors Steven Gerrard.

    After a short delay Xabi Alonso has his kick saved by Dida but is on hand to slam the rebound into the roof of the net to complete a remarkable recovery.

    55 mins: GOAL AC Milan 3-2 Liverpool
    Is an amazing comeback really on the cards? Two goals in three minutes suddenly revive Liverpool as substitute Vladimir Smicer, in his farewell appearance, drills home a low shot from half-time substitute Dietmar Hamann's pass.

    53 mins: GOAL AC Milan 3-1 Liverpool
    Hope for Liverpool as captain Steven Gerrard finds space to direct a header into the far corner from John Arne Riise's left-wing cross.

    52 mins: Jerzy Dudek makes a superb low save from a fiercely-hit shot from Andriy Shevchenko at a free-kick.

    50 mins: Xabi Alonso has Liverpool's best effort of the match so far as he tries his luck from distance and sees his shot whistle just past the post.

    48 mins: More problems for Liverpool as a low right-wing centre bounces out of Jerzy Dudek's hands but Hernan Crespo cannot make the most of the opportunity.

    2049: Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez tries to rescue the situation by bringing on Dietmar Hamann for right-back Steve Finnan, who has a slight thigh injury.

    Liverpool appear to be playing three at the back for the second half as AC Milan get play under way again.

    HALF-TIME AC Milan 3-0 Liverpool
    A disastrous first 45 minutes for Liverpool as one goal from Paolo Maldini and a Hernan Crespo double look to have wrapped up the game already.

    To add to Liverpool's problems, surprise selection Harry Kewell was forced off with an injury after just 23 minutes.

    44 mins: GOAL AC Milan 3-0 Liverpool
    It appears all over for Liverpool already as Kaka picks out Hernan Crespo with a superb pass and the on-loan Chelsea striker coolly flicks the ball over Jerzy Dudek.

    39 mins: GOAL AC Milan 2-0 Liverpool
    Controversy as Hernan Crespo tucks the ball home from six yards after a flowing move involving Kaka and Andriy Shevchenko just 30 seconds after Liverpool have a strong penalty claim for handball turned down.

    As Luis Garcia tried to round grounded defender Alessandro Nesta, the ball hit him on the elbow but the referee waved play on and Milan broke away and scored.

    36 mins: Luis Garcia comes close again after a neat move but this time he miskicks after Milan Baros heads the ball back to him 18 yards out and his shot drifts harmlessly wide.

    33 mins: Luis Garcia tries to rally Liverpool but he fires the ball over after it falls to him just outside the Milan penalty area.

    32 mins: The ball is in the Liverpool area once again but Djimi Traore does enough to allow Jerzy Dudek to gather the ball ahead of Andriy Shevchenko.

    29 mins: Andriy Shevchenko's celebrations are cut short as his slick finish from 12 yards, following Kaka's pinpoint pass, is disallowed for offside, although the decision appears close.

    23 mins: Vladimir Smicer, in his last Liverpool appearance, replaces Harry Kewell, who is booed by some fans as he leaves the pitch.

    21 mins: Vladimir Smicer is warming up and preparing to replace Harry Kewell, who was a surprise selection for the match. Kewell, who has been plagued by injury this season, apparently told the Liverpool bench that something had snapped.

    19 mins: Harry Kewell looks in trouble and is limping around the pitch after pulling up a few minutes ago.

    17 mins: Milan come forward again and Cafu's right-wing centre is headed well past the post by Brazilian compatriot Kaka.

    14 mins: Luis Garcia saves Liverpool by clearing off the line at the near post from Hernan Crespo's header at Clarence Seedorf's right-wing corner.

    13 mins: Andriy Shevchenko is penalised as he tries to get through ahead of Jamie Carragher inside the Liverpool area although it is not clear if he is penalised for handball or offside.

    8 mins: A Steven Gerrard free-kick just outside the area comes to nothing.

    6 mins: Sami Hyypia is in action at the other end with a superbly-timed tackle to take the ball off Andriy Shevchenko's foot inside the Liverpool area.

    From the corner the ball bounces around the six-yard box before John Arne Riise's sliced attempted clearance is gratefully caught by Jerzy Dudek.

    4 mins: Liverpool respond straight away and John Arne Riise has a fierce shot from the edge of the area blocked before Sami Hyypia is denied by Dida.

    1 min: GOAL AC Milan 1-0 Liverpool
    A disastrous start for Liverpool as Paolo Maldini dramatically volleys Milan ahead from 12 yards 50 seconds into the match, from a right-wing free-kick by Andrea Pirlo.

    1947: Liverpool kick-off after gathering for their pre-match huddle.

    1943: The teams walk out on to the pitch to a rapturous reception.

    1942: The opening ceremony overruns - delaying the players' entrance on to the pitch.

    1940: The players line up in the tunnel - Liverpool in their traditional red kit and AC Milan in all-white. Managers Rafael Benitez and Carlo Ancelotti exchange a friendly word and pat on the back.

    1936: As the players prepare to come on to the pitch, Milan fans behind one goal wave red, white and black flags as spectacular pre-match entertainment, featuring dancers performing a series of well-choreographed moves, takes place on the pitch.

    1914: Lots of fans are still queuing to get into the ground with the minutes beginning to tick quickly by before kick-off. There is no indication that the start of the match will be delayed as a result.

    1900: The excitement is building up inside the Ataturk Stadium. Liverpool fans are there in numbers, creating a party atmosphere, and the expectation is mounting with kick-off less than an hour away.

    Liverpool supporters fill one end of the ground and are also dotted around other parts of the ground.

    A rousing rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone" filled the air as kick-off neared.



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    Team line-ups:
    Liverpool: Dudek, Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Traore, Luis Garcia, Gerrard, Xabi Alonso, Riise, Kewell, Baros. Subs: Carson, Cisse, Smicer, Hamann, Josemi, Nunez, Biscan.

    AC Milan: Dida, Cafu, Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, Gattuso, Crespo, Shevchenko. Subs: Abbiati, Kaladze, Costacurta, Rui Costa, Tomasson, Dhorasoo, Serginho.

    Referee: Manuel Enrique Mejuto Gonzalez (Spain)
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    European Champions for the 5th time and back where we belong.

    A game of all games, a final of all finals, a comeback of all combacks - and nobody can say we are living in the shadows of our great past now!

    Liverpool - most successful English team ever, and kings of Europe once again!

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    By half time, quarter of the crowd at my place had left to sleep.

    What an amazing comeback!

    Dudek tactic distraction is something new ?

    Anyway it is 6am here, I am off to sleep.

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    Originally posted by Xcellweb Matty
    European Champions for the 5th time and back where we belong.

    A game of all games, a final of all finals, a comeback of all combacks - and nobody can say we are living in the shadows of our great past now!

    Liverpool - most successful English team ever, and kings of Europe once again!

    Here Here! That was a game, a final not to be forgotten.
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    Originally posted by hellind2
    Dudek tactic distraction is something new ?
    Shades of Grobby from the 1984 European Cup final against Roma - which we won as well
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    Can't say Liverpool are my favourite team, but well done to the lads; excellent game.
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    Decent final but in terms of dramatic win or comeback, still donesn't beat 99 in the Nou Camp in injury time.

    Kings of Europe? HA, you're not even Kings of England mate, even the Evertonians are better than you in league terms. Hey, in a knockout competition you can pull it off but over a season, you're still years off.

    Ability wise, gotta be one of the worst teams to win the CL since it's inception in the 80s. Shame rally, the CL needs to be reformed.

    The wheels will be off all the cars in Liverpool tonight.

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    Nothing will ever beat the Manchester United Treble ahhhh...I remember it well, the atmosphere the two goals in extra time.
    Those were the days...

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    Originally posted by Critic
    Decent final but in terms of dramatic win or comeback, still donesn't beat 99 in the Nou Camp in injury time.

    Kings of Europe? HA, you're not even Kings of England mate, even the Evertonians are better than you in league terms. Hey, in a knockout competition you can pull it off but over a season, you're still years off.

    Ability wise, gotta be one of the worst teams to win the CL since it's inception in the 80s. Shame rally, the CL needs to be reformed.

    The wheels will be off all the cars in Liverpool tonight.

    Critic,
    Very bitter Manure fan eh?

    What have you won this season?

    We have been terribly inconsistent in the league this year, but I have to say, you cannot argue with the fact that since the Levekusen game, we have thoroughly deserved to win the European Cup. We have given 100% effort and determination in every single game. We have played with a passion that money cannot buy.

    Were having the last laugh over Manure, Arsenal have won the FA Cup, Chelski have won the League and League Cup and Liverpool have won the European Cup.

    Add to that the fact Everton finished 4th (and with their performances this season, nobody below them deserved it more) and the footballing scene on Liverpool is alight once again.

    Don't forget, we have won the European Cup this season, in which we have had our worst season in recent memory with injuries, Cisse, Gerrard, Luis Garcia etc...

    The injuries have been that bad, there have been times when we have actually not had an available top 5 choice striker and we have even struggled keeper wise at times, hence we had to bring in Carson.

    Also add to that the fact we have had a new manager take over a depleted team, the loss of Michael Owen to Real, and whole rebuilding of the team, lots of new faces, a new style of play I don't think even you can take this victory away from us.

    Remember last season, we were a team that was falling apart and going nowhere. This season we are the European Champions (albeit we have not achieved what we wanted in the league).

    Who would have though that Biscan would play any part in our season, nevermind in the Champions League. But partially due to injuries and partially due to Benitez's skills, he has actually been a fairly regular face this season!

    Hey, if Man Utd are not good enough to win anything at all, dont get under the weather about it, theres always next season
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    One of the best football games I have ever seen, great comeback, great victory, well done Liverpool

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    Originally posted by Xcellweb Matty
    Very bitter Manure fan eh?

    What have you won this season?

    We have been terribly inconsistent in the league this year, but I have to say, you cannot argue with the fact that since the Levekusen game, we have thoroughly deserved to win the European Cup. We have given 100% effort and determination in every single game. We have played with a passion that money cannot buy.

    Were having the last laugh over Manure, Arsenal have won the FA Cup, Chelski have won the League and League Cup and Liverpool have won the European Cup.

    Add to that the fact Everton finished 4th (and with their performances this season, nobody below them deserved it more) and the footballing scene on Liverpool is alight once again.

    Don't forget, we have won the European Cup this season, in which we have had our worst season in recent memory with injuries, Cisse, Gerrard, Luis Garcia etc...

    The injuries have been that bad, there have been times when we have actually not had an available top 5 choice striker and we have even struggled keeper wise at times, hence we had to bring in Carson.

    Also add to that the fact we have had a new manager take over a depleted team, the loss of Michael Owen to Real, and whole rebuilding of the team, lots of new faces, a new style of play I don't think even you can take this victory away from us.

    Remember last season, we were a team that was falling apart and going nowhere. This season we are the European Champions (albeit we have not achieved what we wanted in the league).

    Who would have though that Biscan would play any part in our season, nevermind in the Champions League. But partially due to injuries and partially due to Benitez's skills, he has actually been a fairly regular face this season!

    Hey, if Man Utd are not good enough to win anything at all, dont get under the weather about it, theres always next season
    You're European Champions yes, but i have my doubts about whether you're even one of Europe's best 7-10 clubs. For me that is a problem UEFA msut look at.

    They must look again at the league section of the CL.

    You do now know that Liverpool have to take part in Sebt Blatter's stupid FIFA World Club Championship don't you? Now ihope you'll forgive me for wishing all the illfortune uon you for that and next season and then on that is possible. You certainly didn't have too much of that in the CL up to now.

    Oh i dunno, how about we start with UEFA denying yo the opportunity to defend it. And then [hopefully] us taking the CL off of you next season. You wouldn't like that.

    You're still not the best team in the North West, ha, even our weakened team did the double over you this season. Don't you remember, Wayne Rooney's strike and then the cop throwing their mobile's out of their pram's?

    One things for sure, next season's United v L'pool match will be the most intense and hyped for some time.

    And too right, we're experiencing dark and uncertain times here at OT right now, mroe so with the Glazer angle. He's the true and most dangerous enemy now. If Sir Alex gets a goalie and a central midfielder, the team isn't wiped out by injuries and international call ups like this year, well let me put it this way, the future could be red white and black once again.

    He's gonna die,
    He's gonna die,
    Malcom Glazer's gonna die,
    How we kill him I don't know,
    Cut him up from head to toe,
    All I know is Glazer's going to die
    He's gonna die,
    He's gonna die,
    Malcom Glazer's gonna die


    Some of you thought last night's game had a grat comeback and drama and that unbelievebaility about it, well yes it did but nothing compared to this >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/295000...4_manu_pkg.ram

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    Forget about the domestic league.

    To comeback from 3-0 down, and then hold on to it for the penalty shootout is an achievement in itself.

    A very exciting game indeed! Somehow, every angled cross-over by Milan into the box was so dangerous.

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    Originally posted by Critic
    You're European Champions yes, but i have my doubts about whether you're even one of Europe's best 7-10 clubs.
    Well yes I understand where you are coming from, I am not sure whether we are in the top 5 clubs in Europe, but to be honest we have beaten some of the best teams in Europe, who in turn have beaten these "best" (likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd, Bayern Munich), including Juventus, Chelski and AC Milan (bear in mind we did not lose a single one of our 6 knockout games).

    I think in a European league situation, we would have been very different, especially with our injuries, as we proved in the Premiership.

    But in a straight knockout competition, we have proved that this season at least, we have been consistently the best team in Europe this season.

    You have strong views over whether the European Champions League is what it used to be. Well, in my opinion, yes 3 of the last 4 finalists have been "outsiders" at the beginning of the season (although the teams they have fielded have all been world class in the way they have played), but should you not be questioning the quality of the "big" teams?

    I mean if the "big" teams are as good and so much better as you are suggesting, then surely they should be able to beat the likes of Liverpool and Monaco and Porto?

    I don't think anyone can take our European triumph away from us, we have always been one of Europes biggest teams anyway, we have just underperformed for the last 10 - 15 years (although we won the UEFA Cup, Europes second top continetial competition) just 4 years ago.

    IMO, we are the best team in Europe this season, because no other team has managed to beat us. It is up to these "top" teams to win, if they are not good enough to, then you cannot really argue.

    Remeber, whilst the likes of Chelski, and Real Madrid may have spent the money on players in the last 3 years and should therefore expect instant success, it does not mean they have the best team. Unless the team has the utter determination to fight to the death, the hunger for success and the spirit to play for the club and the fans, then they will never get anywhere in major cup competitions. These are factors that no amount of money can buy, they are natural.

    3-0 down at half time against AC Milan, with arguably the best team in the world for sheer quality, most teams would have crippled. But we came back out fighting and won!

    The current Man Utd team failed this year imho, because they are a shadow compared to the team that won 6 years ago. And to tell the truth, when I see those two goals against Bayern, it actually sends shivers down my spine, they were awsome and great for English football.

    I suppose we would all have something to moan about if it had been ultra defensive game with the 0-0 draw scoreline everyone was expecting lol!

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    It was AC's game all the way through....

    When it was 3-1, I was 100 up, then they went and lost and I end up 80 down. Damn scousers.
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    Throw your whole season behind the CL and ride your luck ....of course you can win it. Problem is though...you ain't good enough to defend it

    Never mind. So sad. So sad. Next time you might put a bit more in to the premiership so you don't have to beg and plead to turn up next year.

    That's it you see. You saved so much for the one cup you had nothing left for home. So you don't deserve to be there next year.

    The paper champions

    Great game by the way.

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    bitter, bitter manure fan..


    Originally posted by Critic
    Decent final but in terms of dramatic win or comeback, still donesn't beat 99 in the Nou Camp in injury time.
    you're the only one to say so, so far

    Originally posted by Critic
    Kings of Europe? HA, you're not even Kings of England mate, even the Evertonians are better than you in league terms. Hey, in a knockout competition you can pull it off but over a season, you're still years off.
    its all about performing on the day. if you'd won the fa cup last week would you've said 'we dont deserve it because we didnt win the league'? dont give me that crap, you were DESPERATE to win that game, to have something to show for your miserable season

    Originally posted by Critic
    Ability wise, gotta be one of the worst teams to win the CL since it's inception in the 80s. Shame rally, the CL needs to be reformed.
    funny how you want it reformed when you cant win it. iirc, it was reformed last time to make the likes of united, juve, ac milan + real madrid more money

    Nothing will ever beat the Manchester United Treble ahhhh...I remember it well, the atmosphere the two goals in extra time.
    Those were the days...
    your memories obviously a bit hazy. a 'poor' team 3-0 down to ac milan, or a team at the top of their game 1-0 down? ignore the time factor, you only had to score 1 goal to get a continuance of a game

    You're European Champions yes, but i have my doubts about whether you're even one of Europe's best 7-10 clubs. For me that is a problem UEFA msut look at.

    They must look again at the league section of the CL.
    see above comments. you might not include liverpool in your list of best 7-10 clubs, but would you include rafa benitez in your top 7-10 managers? where would you list him? liverpool have beaten a whole host of 'top 7-10 clubs' and come out on top...

    You do now know that Liverpool have to take part in Sebt Blatter's stupid FIFA World Club Championship don't you? Now ihope you'll forgive me for wishing all the illfortune uon you for that and next season and then on that is possible. You certainly didn't have too much of that in the CL up to now.
    unless you want to talk injuries..

    Oh i dunno, how about we start with UEFA denying yo the opportunity to defend it. And then [hopefully] us taking the CL off of you next season. You wouldn't like that.
    the word 'hopefully' comes in useful here. you're welcome to try and win it again next year, as are everton, chelsea and arsenal. of that list i think only chelsea will get close. rest assured regardless who gets through to the later stages ill be there supporting them, like i was united in 99

    You're still not the best team in the North West, ha, even our weakened team did the double over you this season. Don't you remember, Wayne Rooney's strike and then the cop throwing their mobile's out of their pram's?
    whose team was weakened more for most of the season? so rio took some drugs and then missed a test. whose fault is that? certainly not anyone elses

    One things for sure, next season's United v L'pool match will be the most intense and hyped for some time.
    maybe we'll parade the european cup we get to win around hte stadium beforehand to let you know what its like to win it 5 times and keep it

    And too right, we're experiencing dark and uncertain times here at OT right now, mroe so with the Glazer angle. He's the true and most dangerous enemy now. If Sir Alex gets a goalie and a central midfielder, the team isn't wiped out by injuries and international call ups like this year, well let me put it this way, the future could be red white and black once again.
    dont remember any of you complaining when you went public 15ish years ago. and its a bit of a coincidence you've done so well since then eh?

    arise sir rafa!

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    Originally posted by SimonMc
    Throw your whole season behind the CL and ride your luck ....of course you can win it. Problem is though...you ain't good enough to defend it
    we werent good enough to win it this year iirc

    Originally posted by SimonMc
    Never mind. So sad. So sad. Next time you might put a bit more in to the premiership so you don't have to beg and plead to turn up next year.

    That's it you see. You saved so much for the one cup you had nothing left for home. So you don't deserve to be there next year.
    first season for the new boss, team he inherited etc etc etc. no real excuses as we shot ourselves in teh foot most of the opportunities we had to catch up. we were the worse of 2 really bad teams. however that doesnt tell the whole story - if you look at our away vs home record, and if we'd only won a few mroe away games (its gotta be said - 11 away losses is a bit of a freak) then we'd have been pushing everton a bit closer. fair play they got there, i was amongst those who thought they'd go down this season and they've come along and proven everyone wrong


    The paper champions
    better than not winning anything in a season


    Great game by the way.
    fantastic!

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