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05-24-2005, 10:12 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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Peer 1 routing screwing the pooch?
Can you guys post traceroutes to 69.25.118.70
Everyday at night or early morning, the last hop goes crazy (216.xx.xx.xx) Peer 1 switch // router.
Also, Peer 1 and their peering with cogent is creating problems as cogent is routing traffic any way they can to save cash.
OR
Could this be a capacity issue with Savvis. I've seen tons of savvis problems in the last 2 months.
traceroute to www.steadfastnetworks.com (205.218.64.7), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 69.25.118.65 (69.25.118.65) 0.232 ms 0.136 ms 0.127 ms
2 216.187.123.26 (216.187.123.26) 47.207 ms 64.854 ms 54.538 ms
3 aer1-gigabitethernet2-3.NewYork.savvis.net (206.24.195.133) 41.320 ms 25.766 ms 9.717 ms
4 dcr3-ae2.NewYork.savvis.net (208.174.228.9) 10.074 ms 25.719 ms 36.672 ms
5 bcs1-so-1-1-0-500.NewYork.savvis.net (204.70.192.186) 46.874 ms bcs1-so-3-0-0-500.NewYork.savvis.net (204.70.192.194) 51.280 ms bcs2-so-3-0-0-500.NewYork.savvis.net (204.70.192.202) 4.351 ms
6 dcr2-so-3-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net (204.70.192.101) 170.505 ms dcr1-so-1-2-0.Chicago.savvis.net (204.70.192.105) 56.419 ms dcr2-so-3-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net (204.70.192.101) 86.945 ms
7 dcr2-so-5-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net (204.70.192.46) 52.309 ms bpr1-so-0-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.10.238) 74.891 ms *
8 aer1-po10.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.9.133) 28.492 ms bpr2-so-3-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.10.254) 23.715 ms aer1-po10.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.9.133) 24.477 ms
9 aer1-po20.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.9.137) 28.808 ms steadfast-networks.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.174.226.26) 23.970 ms aer1-po10.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.175.9.133) 24.593 ms
10 63.208.72.110 (63.208.72.110) 23.581 ms steadfast-networks.ChicagoEquinix.savvis.net (208.174.226.26) 25.222 ms 26.033 ms
11 * * 63.208.72.110 (63.208.72.110) 91.922 ms
The above is a trace to www.steadfastnetworks.com
Target Name: N/A
IP: 69.25.118.70
Date/Time: 5/24/2005 10:15:17 PM
1 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms e-wheelock.fairchild1-crt.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.246.1]
2 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms ropeferry-fairchild.ropeferry1-crt.dartmouth.edu [129.170.2.17]
3 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms core.border1-rt.dartmouth.edu [129.170.2.195]
4 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 56 ms 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms 4 ms vtelinet-216-66-108-221.vermontel.net [216.66.108.221]
5 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms g11-2.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.112.23.169]
6 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms p5-0.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.110]
7 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms p6-0.core01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.238]
8 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms peer1.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.158]
9 51 ms 51 ms 52 ms 51 ms 52 ms 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms OC48POS6-0.tor-core-1.peer1.net [216.187.114.142]
10 52 ms 51 ms 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms 51 ms 51 ms 52 ms 52 ms 52 ms OC48POS1-0.tor-core-2.peer1.net [216.187.114.134]
11 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms OC48POS3-0.mtl-core-b.peer1.net [216.187.68.93]
12 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms 47 ms OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net [216.187.90.45]
13 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net [216.187.115.130]
14 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net [216.187.115.166]
15 47 ms 48 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms GIG6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net [216.187.123.17]
16 79 ms 104 ms 101 ms 48 ms 57 ms 65 ms 110 ms 66 ms 48 ms 111 ms [216.187.123.44]
17 90 ms 94 ms 109 ms 48 ms 56 ms 61 ms 112 ms 49 ms 49 ms 95 ms [69.25.118.70]
Ignore the fact that cogent routes me to montreal then back, look at the last hop. Jumps from 47 ms to 101
Now finally, if I ping thenynoc.com or any other Peer 1 IP direct, I get
Target Name: thenynoc.com
IP: 64.34.84.190
Date/Time: 5/24/2005 10:16:02 PM
1 0 ms 0 ms e-wheelock.fairchild1-crt.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.246.1]
2 0 ms 0 ms ropeferry-fairchild.ropeferry1-crt.dartmouth.edu [129.170.2.17]
3 0 ms 0 ms core.border1-rt.dartmouth.edu [129.170.2.195]
4 4 ms 4 ms vtelinet-216-66-108-221.vermontel.net [216.66.108.221]
5 18 ms 18 ms g11-2.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.112.23.169]
6 24 ms 23 ms p5-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.118]
7 29 ms 29 ms p4-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.81]
8 30 ms 30 ms p14-0.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.198]
9 26 ms 26 ms peer1.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.110]
10 26 ms 26 ms OC48-POS0-0.wdc-sp2-cor-1.peer1.net [216.187.115.234]
11 26 ms 26 ms OC48-POS2-0.wdc-sp2-cor-2.peer1.net [216.187.115.246]
12 31 ms 31 ms OC48POS3-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.115.221]
13 31 ms 31 ms OC48-POS3-0.nyc-dis-b.peer1.net [216.187.115.134]
14 33 ms 32 ms [216.187.115.162]
15 32 ms 32 ms xeon.thenynoc.com [64.34.84.190]
32 MS - why would Peer 1 direct ping any different than Peer 1 in a BGP mix?
Does anyone have any explanations for these thingsLast edited by The Broadband Man; 05-24-2005 at 10:19 PM.
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05-24-2005, 10:24 PM #2Junior Guru Wannabe
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Re: Peer 1 routing screwing the pooch?
Originally posted by The Broadband Man
Also, Peer 1 and their peering with cogent is creating problems as cogent is routing traffic any way they can to save cash.
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05-24-2005, 10:25 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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how is that not intelligent? Transit providers have been known to reroute traffic through the cheapest way possible (1st to their peers) than through actual transit ... so what's your pointServGrid - www.servgrid.com - Affordable and Reliable SSD Cloud Solutions
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05-24-2005, 10:26 PM #4Junior Guru Wannabe
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traceroute to 69.25.118.65 (69.25.118.65), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 66.28.200.1 (66.28.200.1) 0.383 ms 0.293 ms 0.337 ms
2 g2.ba21.b001027-0.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.4.157) 0.515 ms g1.ba21.b001027-0.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.12.245) 0.831 ms g10-2.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (38.112.20.193) 0.808 ms
3 p13-0.core01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.106) 26.448 ms 26.468 ms *
4 p5-0.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.34) 186.110 ms 115.478 ms 64.947 ms
MPLS Label=16 CoS=6 TTL=1 S=0
5 p15-0.core01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.242) 26.281 ms 26.287 ms 26.045 ms
6 peer1.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.158) 26.253 ms 26.096 ms 26.344 ms
7 oc48pos6-0.tor-core-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.142) 38.599 ms 38.533 ms 37.963 ms
8 oc48pos1-0.tor-core-2.peer1.net (216.187.114.134) 38.195 ms 38.010 ms 38.323 ms
9 oc48pos3-0.mtl-core-b.peer1.net (216.187.68.93) 51.266 ms 51.977 ms 51.785 ms
10 oc48pos5-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (65.39.166.173) 51.609 ms 51.499 ms 51.744 ms
11 oc48-pos2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 51.466 ms 51.650 ms 51.489 ms
12 oc48-pos3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 51.497 ms 51.615 ms 51.669 ms
13 gig6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net (216.187.123.17) 51.459 ms 52.298 ms 51.799 ms
14 69.25.118.65 (69.25.118.65) 91.972 ms 62.785 ms 80.984 ms
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05-24-2005, 10:26 PM #5Web Hosting Guru
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From Sago:
Tracing route to 69.25.118.70 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms unknown.sagonet.net [66.118.175.37]
2 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 65.77.96.149
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms drvlga1wcx2-pos15-2-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.240.29]
4 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms hrndva1wcx3-pos14-0-oc192.wcg.net [64.200.210.23
8]
5 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms washdc5lce1-pos4-0-oc48.wcg.net [64.200.95.118]
6 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms equinixexchange.peer1.net [206.223.115.30]
7 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms OC48-POS0-0.wdc-sp2-cor-1.peer1.net [216.187.115
.234]
8 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms OC48-POS2-0.wdc-sp2-cor-2.peer1.net [216.187.115
.246]
9 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms OC48POS3-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.115
.221]
10 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net [216.187.1
15.166]
11 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms GIG6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net [216.187.123.17]
12 65 ms 68 ms 67 ms 216.187.123.44
13 74 ms 31 ms 31 ms 69.25.118.70
Trace complete.
From Superb:
Tracing route to 69.25.118.70 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms c-vl102-d1.acc.dca2.hopone.net [66.36.240.2]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ge4-0.core1.dca2.hopone.net [66.36.224.226]
3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms ge3-0.core1.iad1.hopone.net [66.36.224.18]
4 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms equinixexchange.peer1.net [206.223.115.30]
5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms OC48-POS0-0.wdc-sp2-cor-1.peer1.net [216.187.115
.234]
6 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms OC48-POS2-0.wdc-sp2-cor-2.peer1.net [216.187.115
.246]
7 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms OC48POS3-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.115
.221]
8 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net [216.187.1
15.166]
9 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms GIG6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net [216.187.123.17]
10 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 216.187.123.44
11 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms 69.25.118.70
Trace complete.
From FDC:
Tracing route to 69.25.118.70 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 66.90.64.1 [66.90.64.1]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms g0-8.na21.b000268-0.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [38
.112.0.181]
3 9 ms 7 ms 8 ms g9-3.core01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.64.1
29]
4 4 ms 5 ms 4 ms p6-0.core01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.2
38]
5 6 ms 6 ms 18 ms peer1.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.158]
6 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms OC48POS6-0.tor-core-1.peer1.net [216.187.114.142
]
7 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms OC48POS1-0.tor-core-2.peer1.net [216.187.114.134
]
8 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms OC48POS3-0.mtl-core-b.peer1.net [216.187.68.93]
9 36 ms 37 ms 38 ms OC48POS4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net [216.187.90.45]
10 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms OC48-POS2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net [216.187.11
5.130]
11 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net [216.187.1
15.166]
12 36 ms 35 ms 35 ms GIG6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net [216.187.123.17]
13 53 ms 29 ms 33 ms 216.187.123.44
14 40 ms 28 ms 26 ms 69.25.118.70
Trace complete.Last edited by tkam; 05-24-2005 at 10:30 PM.
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05-24-2005, 10:28 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Thanks guys -
"12 65 ms 68 ms 67 ms 216.187.123.44
13 74 ms 31 ms 31 ms 69.25.118.70"
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05-24-2005, 10:29 PM #7Problem Solver
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Tracing route to thenynoc.com [64.34.84.190]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 10 ms 13 ms 10 ms 10.237.128.1
3 11 ms 10 ms 14 ms 68-190-192-77.riv-nod.charterpipeline.net [68.19
0.192.77]
4 9 ms 9 ms 16 ms 68-190-192-182.riv-nod.charterpipeline.net [68.1
90.192.182]
5 13 ms 34 ms 15 ms so-6-0-0-0.gar2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [67.72.11
6.5]
6 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms 4.68.127.190
7 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms dcr2-so-5-0-0.LosAngeles.savvis.net [204.70.192.
118]
8 46 ms 47 ms 47 ms bcs1-so-2-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net [204.70.192.85]
9 43 ms 44 ms 45 ms bcs2-so-6-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net [204.70.192.50]
10 66 ms 65 ms 63 ms dcr2-so-6-0-0.Atlanta.savvis.net [204.70.192.69]
11 80 ms 79 ms 77 ms bcs2-so-1-2-0.Washington.savvis.net [204.70.192.
62]
12 79 ms 84 ms 79 ms bcs2-so-2-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net [204.70.192.2]
13 83 ms 99 ms 79 ms dcr4-so-1-1-0-500.NewYork.savvis.net [204.70.192
.213]
14 94 ms 83 ms 83 ms aer1-port-channel-2-0.NewYork.savvis.net [208.17
4.228.22]
15 83 ms 80 ms 82 ms peer-1-networks.NewYork.savvis.net [206.24.195.1
34]
16 83 ms 87 ms 89 ms GIG4-0.nyc-gsr-c.peer1.net [216.187.123.14]
17 80 ms 94 ms 85 ms 216.187.115.158
18 81 ms 85 ms 83 ms 216.187.115.162
19 103 ms 83 ms 82 ms xeon.thenynoc.com [64.34.84.190]
Trace complete.Steven Ciaburri | Industry's Best Server Management - Rack911.com
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05-24-2005, 10:32 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Steve, can you trace the other IP - not thenynoc.com but 69.25.118.70
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05-24-2005, 10:33 PM #9Problem Solver
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okay:
Tracing route to 69.25.118.70 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1
2 9 ms 13 ms 14 ms 10.237.128.1
3 9 ms 10 ms 13 ms 68-190-192-77.riv-nod.charterpipeline.net [68.19
0.192.77]
4 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms 68-190-192-182.riv-nod.charterpipeline.net [68.1
90.192.182]
5 20 ms 12 ms 11 ms so-6-1-0-0.gar2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.78.202
.33]
6 12 ms 15 ms 13 ms so-0-1-0.bbr1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.96.81
]
7 79 ms 79 ms 80 ms as-1-0.bbr2.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.1.85]
8 78 ms 92 ms 92 ms ae-20-52.car2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.53]
9 79 ms 85 ms 79 ms 4.78.132.2
10 80 ms 81 ms 81 ms border11.ge3-0-bbnet2.nyc.pnap.net [209.191.128.
145]
11 98 ms 130 ms * fluidhosting-3.border22.nyc.pnap.net [72.5.142.6
2]
12 81 ms 82 ms 80 ms 69.25.118.70
Trace complete.Steven Ciaburri | Industry's Best Server Management - Rack911.com
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05-24-2005, 10:35 PM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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6 peer1.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.10.158) 26.324 ms 26.403 ms 26.242 ms
7 oc48pos6-0.tor-core-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.142) 38.668 ms 38.076 ms 38.193 ms
8 oc48pos1-0.tor-core-2.peer1.net (216.187.114.134) 38.160 ms * 38.279 ms
9 oc48pos3-0.mtl-core-b.peer1.net (216.187.68.93) 51.895 ms 52.451 ms 53.173 ms
10 oc48pos4-0.mtl-core-a.peer1.net (216.187.90.45) 51.494 ms 52.151 ms 51.672 ms
11 oc48-pos2-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.130) 52.253 ms 52.144 ms 52.279 ms
12 oc48-pos3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 51.613 ms 51.852 ms 51.790 ms
13 gig6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net (216.187.123.17) 52.240 ms 51.909 ms 52.148 ms
14 216.187.123.44 (216.187.123.44) 101.550 ms * 52.497 ms
15 69.25.118.70 (69.25.118.70) 58.287 ms 87.015 ms 102.603 ms
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If the core routers can find a way to get Server A's data to Client B through the most secure route, or avoiding Route C due to congestion, it'll do so. That's the beauty of intelligent routing and self-healing - Fiber cuts and congestion can be bypassed. Now, it sounds like you're doing this at very regular times - Try it during the middle of the day. It's like complaining that the interstate's always crowded, but you only use it during rush hour.
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Thank you very much guys. Much appreciated.
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05-24-2005, 10:39 PM #13Junior Guru
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Something is definitely a little screwed up... A trace from my cabinet in Peer1 NY results in the following:
PHP Code:root@newyork [/]# traceroute 69.25.118.70
traceroute to 69.25.118.70 (69.25.118.70), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 69.28.218.33 (69.28.218.33) 0.478 ms 0.424 ms 0.415 ms
2 216.187.115.146 (216.187.115.146) 0.846 ms 0.755 ms *
3 OC48-POS1-0.nyc-telx-dis-a.peer1.net (216.187.115.133) 1.088 ms 1.039 ms 0.742 ms
4 OC48-POS3-0.nyc-teleh-dis-2.peer1.net (216.187.115.166) 1.413 ms 1.109 ms *
5 GIG6-0.nyc-gsr-a.peer1.net (216.187.123.17) 1.172 ms 0.895 ms 1.390 ms
6 216.187.123.44 (216.187.123.44) 55.098 ms 53.885 ms 48.894 ms
7 69.25.118.70 (69.25.118.70) 31.794 ms 1.925 ms 2.568 ms
root@newyork [/]#
PHP Code:
root@newyork [/]# traceroute www.thenynoc.com
traceroute to thenynoc.com (64.34.84.190), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 69.28.218.33 (69.28.218.33) 0.460 ms 0.418 ms 0.408 ms
2 216.187.115.146 (216.187.115.146) 1.160 ms 1.248 ms *
3 216.187.115.162 (216.187.115.162) 2.201 ms 1.677 ms 1.992 ms
4 xeon.thenynoc.com (64.34.84.190) 1.775 ms 1.263 ms 1.255 ms
root@newyork [/]#
Last edited by Netivex; 05-24-2005 at 10:42 PM.
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05-24-2005, 11:42 PM #14The least among you.
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Re: Peer 1 routing screwing the pooch?
Originally posted by The Broadband Man
Ignore the fact that cogent routes me to montreal then back, look at the last hop. Jumps from 47 ms to 101
It's no wonder that Cogent has such a bad rap on these boards. People make blatantly incorrect assumptions about them that simply are not true. There's a word in my vocabulary that adequately describes this behavior, it's called "parroting." To the original poster: Next time, don't be a parrot.Last edited by tical; 05-24-2005 at 11:47 PM.
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Tical before you go on a crusade to defend Cogent, .ord in Ashburne handed off to Peer 1 in toronto ...
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05-24-2005, 11:56 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Also, with regards to your parroting case, the post wasn't just about cogent, its also about savvis, I am simpy stating my opinions. I didn't know that was frowned upon on this board. Or its maybe just that you have some weird perogative to defend cogent no matter what
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05-25-2005, 12:05 AM #17The least among you.
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Originally posted by The Broadband Man
Tical before you go on a crusade to defend Cogent, .ord in Ashburne handed off to Peer 1 in toronto ...
Moderators: Any way I can get a trout slapping function?
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05-25-2005, 12:13 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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Right and it is because cogent is such a great company that it goes from boston to chicago for a route that should be going to NY ... good job with that logic.
Further more, my comment about VA refers to this
Target Name: thenynoc.com
IP: 64.34.84.190
Date/Time: 5/25/2005 12:12:08 AM
1 0 ms e-wheelock.fairchild1-crt.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.246.1]
2 0 ms ropeferry-fairchild.ropeferry1-crt.dartmouth.edu [129.170.2.17]
3 0 ms core.border1-rt.dartmouth.edu [129.170.2.195]
4 5 ms vtelinet-216-66-108-221.vermontel.net [216.66.108.221]
5 18 ms g11-2.core01.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.112.23.169]
6 24 ms p5-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.118]
7 29 ms p4-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.81]
8 30 ms p14-0.core01.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.198]
9 26 ms peer1.iad01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.10.110]
10 26 ms OC48-POS0-0.wdc-sp2-cor-1.peer1.net [216.187.115.234]
11 27 ms OC48-POS2-0.wdc-sp2-cor-2.peer1.net [216.187.115.246]
12 37 ms OC48POS3-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.115.221]
13 31 ms OC48-POS3-0.nyc-dis-b.peer1.net [216.187.115.134]
14 32 ms [216.187.115.162]
15 32 ms xeon.thenynoc.com [64.34.84.190]
Cogent peers with Peer 1 in VA - IAD and therefore creates extra latency
Finally, i was talking about savvis and simply taking ganders at different possibilities. So before you ask for a trout slapping function - slap yourselfServGrid - www.servgrid.com - Affordable and Reliable SSD Cloud Solutions
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05-25-2005, 12:25 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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From ThePlanet 40 odd packets
Code:Hostname %Loss Rcv Snt Last Best Avg Worst 1. 99.69-56-159.reverse.theplanet.com 0% 41 41 0 0 2 37 2. dsr1-1-v2.dllstx2.theplanet.com 0% 41 41 0 0 9 192 3. dist-vlan21.dsr3-1.dllstx3.theplane 0% 41 41 0 0 5 87 4. ae0-0.ibr2.dllstx3.theplanet.com 0% 40 40 0 0 2 12 5. gw-cr2.dfw2.us.above.net 0% 40 40 0 0 6 107 6. so-3-2-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net 0% 40 40 29 0 21 29 7. so-3-2-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net 0% 40 40 29 28 31 59 8. so-3-0-0.mpr1.iad2.us.above.net 0% 40 40 29 29 29 50 9. so-3-0-0.mpr1.iad2.us.above.net 0% 40 40 31 29 31 95 10. so-3-0-0.mpr1.iad10.us.above.net 0% 40 40 29 29 29 33 11. OC48-POS0-0.wdc-sp2-cor-1.peer1.net 0% 40 40 29 29 29 30 12. OC48-POS2-0.wdc-sp2-cor-2.peer1.net 0% 40 40 29 29 30 30 13. OC48POS3-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.peer1.net 0% 40 40 30 29 33 35 14. OC48-POS3-0.nyc-dis-b.peer1.net 0% 40 40 35 34 34 35 15. 216.187.115.162 0% 40 40 35 34 35 36 16. 216.187.115.162 0% 40 40 35 35 35 36 17. xeon.thenynoc.com 0% 40 40 35 35 35 36 From Savvis 40 odd packets Packets Pings Hostname %Loss Rcv Snt Last Best Avg Worst 1. 209.67.208.177 0% 42 42 0 0 1 14 2. 10.1.3.5 0% 42 42 0 0 0 9 3. 216.39.69.225 0% 42 42 306 0 7 306 4. chr1-g5-0.FortWorthda1.savvis.net 0% 42 42 0 0 0 1 5. bcr1-so-5-0-0.Dallas.savvis.net 0% 42 42 1 1 2 10 6. bcs2-so-1-0-0-500.Dallas.savvis.net 0% 42 42 1 1 11 109 7. dcr2-so-6-0-0.Atlanta.savvis.net 0% 42 42 21 1 15 65 8. dcr2-so-6-0-0.Atlanta.savvis.net 0% 42 42 21 21 30 72 9. bcs2-so-2-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net 0% 42 42 35 35 38 62 10. bcs2-so-2-0-0.NewYork.savvis.net 0% 42 42 40 39 39 42 11. dcr4-so-1-1-0-500.NewYork.savvis.ne 0% 42 42 40 40 43 157 12. peer-1-networks.NewYork.savvis.net 0% 41 41 40 39 41 88 13. peer-1-networks.NewYork.savvis.net 0% 41 41 40 39 40 49 14. 216.187.115.158 0% 41 41 40 40 41 51 15. 216.187.115.162 0% 41 41 40 40 41 49 16. 216.187.115.162 0% 41 41 41 40 41 49 17. xeon.thenynoc.com 0% 41 41 41 39 41 49
Thanks,
Jeremy
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05-25-2005, 12:26 AM #20The least among you.
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Originally posted by The Broadband Man
Right and it is because cogent is such a great company that it goes from boston to chicago for a route that should be going to NY ... good job with that logic.
*INSERT TROUT SLAP HERE*
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05-25-2005, 12:31 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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WOW - Why am I even bothering ...
cogent takes the cheap route out and peers with Peer 1 in VA ....
moreover, I love how you ignore why cogent goes from BOS to Chicago which was my initial problem ...
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05-25-2005, 12:35 AM #22The least among you.
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Originally posted by The Broadband Man
WOW - Why am I even bothering ...
cogent takes the cheap route out and peers with Peer 1 in VA ....
You need to re-read my post again and again until you understand what peering means. Don't talk, just read.
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05-25-2005, 01:01 AM #23Web Hosting Master
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I KNOW WHAT PEERING MEANS - IT SAVES THEM THE MONEY OF BUYING TRANSIT and instead uses it free.
you seem to want to focus on the VA part. How about you answer my complaint about boston to chicago?
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05-25-2005, 01:03 AM #24Junior Guru
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Interesting to note, about 10 minutes ago i was seeing everywhere from 2 to 80% packet loss on that IP 216.187.123.44 when using MTR... (and I am inside Peer1 NY) and pings from 40 to 120ms ... Now however I am seeing 0 packet loss and 0ms pings...
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05-25-2005, 01:04 AM #25Web Hosting Master
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Netivex, its only a few times of the day *shrug* - and its a few of their distribution level routers
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