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  1. #1
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    Stay away from EV1 (No ethics)

    Hey Everyone,

    Ev1servers.net does not care about ethics and allows their customers to rip off copyrighted content from customers of thier datacenters.
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    I beg to differ, I have had a few instances that were taken care of rather quickly.

    Could you maybe elaberate a little more?
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    I have sent 3 emails to their Abuse department regarding the following site:

    SynergyBox.net

    that ripped our site. I have waited patiently and they have yet to reply.
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    How long has it been?

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    A week and counting
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    Have you done it in the standard internet DMCA filing way? They are more likely to deal with it than if you just e-mailed "They stole my images! FIX IT NOW!!!"

    This is taken from ThePlanet's Legal Documents, but it's pretty much what all decent datacenters expect to receive in regards to legal copywrite infrigements...

    It must be a written communication;
    It must be sent to the designated agent identified above;
    It must include the following:

    A physical or electronic signature of a person (“Complaining Party”) authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is claimed to be infringed;

    Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site;

    Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material;

    Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the Complaining Party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted;

    A statement that the Complaining Party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
    and
    A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the Complaining Party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
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    Mario will handle this personally, and you should be grateful you are doing business with a great company such as EV1.
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    I gotta be honest, just about every single data center I ever contacted about someone stealing content, were completely unhelpful. This goes for EV1, TP, and a bunch others.

    Unless you basically bring them a Cease and Desist, or threaten to sue them... it seems it won't get resolved. I once had an ISP host some site that 100% completely copied ours.. even down to the logo with our name on it! We contacted them a few times.. very professional and all. They finally responded by threating to sue us if we didn't stop stop "harrassing" them.. LOL
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    I emailed Mario. we have been complying with other DC's request about copyright, and it usually gets resolved in 24 hours. It's not fair
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    If I am the DC, how would I know it's not the cat calling the kettle black?
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    That is just cold Sprintserve. Are you trying to say that we in return copied theirs?
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    Originally posted by VapoRub
    That is just cold Sprintserve. Are you trying to say that we in return copied theirs?
    Come on dude... wake up. He's playing devil's advocate and is asking a complete legit question. How does EV1 know that you are in fact the original owner of that work?

    He's not trying to be a jerk... it's somethat that a respectable DC would inquire.

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    Originally posted by VapoRub
    That is just cold Sprintserve. Are you trying to say that we in return copied theirs?
    No. But I am saying that if I am the DC, that's the question I would ask. Now this is usually quite difficult to prove. Therefore unless you do a full DCMA procedure (with written letter, usually snail mail), they are unlikely to respond. Because end of the day, if I am the DC, how do I know you are not trying to do a "preemptive strike" at someone you just copy?
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    Alright, I would be happy to hear them ask instead of being silent.
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    Originally posted by VapoRub
    I emailed Mario. we have been complying with other DC's request about copyright, and it usually gets resolved in 24 hours. It's not fair
    Your email has been received and I have forwarded it to our Abuse Team Leader on this and will follow up with him first thing in the morning.
    Last edited by MarioR; 05-24-2005 at 05:53 PM.
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    Thank you Mario.
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    EV1 is doing the right thing - protecting their customers from frivolous and nonsensical complaints. If you had structured your complaint in a more clear and official manner, and offered conclusive proof that the site was yours, then you wouldn't be in this predicament.

    I would hate to rent from a DC that ducked and covered every time a legal threat came in by pulling my box until I could counter that claim.
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    I don't think it's the idea of ducking. We have handled complaints for a number of complaints against our clients. Most of them are resolved as it takes time for each party to present evidence that they hold legal copyright of the content.

    I honestly don't think any DC will duck and unplug servers, they would lose money and clientele.
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    As I suspected:

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Everyones Internet DMCA Agent [mailto:dmca@ev1.net]
    Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:38 AM
    To: andy@*******
    Subject: [DMCA #05192005-*****]: Copyright nfringement, ****>

    Sir or Madam,

    Thank you for bringing this complaint of copyright material to our
    attention, however, we need more information. Below you will find exactly what we need for a complete DMCA complaint, as set forth by the DMCA act of 1998, which may be found at
    http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf

    *Other content here*

    Once we are provided with the required information we will be able to take further action against the offending party. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us at dmca@ev1.net

    If you wish you may send your notice one of three ways listed below



    Did you get the above email? Where we requested additional information?
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    Hello Mario,

    I have submitted the info last thursday.
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    Originally posted by VapoRub
    Hello Mario,

    I have submitted the info last thursday.
    Check your email.

    *Mods I see no need for this to continue here* VapoRub will be informed of alternate contact methods for EV1Servers.net other than WHT.

    Thanks,
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    I will let everyone know. I think we are on a good track here.
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    VapoRub - I have contacted ev1 before about ripped sites They don't do anything. It took a letter from our attorney to get their attention
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    Originally posted by VapoRub
    Hello Mario,

    I have submitted the info last thursday.
    Hmmmm, but you said....

    Originally posted by VapoRub
    I have sent 3 emails to their Abuse department regarding the following site:

    SynergyBox.net

    that ripped our site. I have waited patiently and they have yet to reply.
    Guess you forgot about the fact that they did reply....?

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    Sorry,

    I took that reply as an automated DCMA message. I'm in contact with Mario, I just hope everything gets resolved soon.
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