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05-20-2005, 01:23 AM #1Retired Moderator
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Take Care when doing Whois
I have a client who check on a whois for one of his domains, ordered the domain from us, we check it is available, and when we tried to register, we found out that the domain was just taken.
It seem that the whois from which my client is checking is actually monitoring who checks what and register them immediately. Finally my client bought the domain from this domain squatter as he has already printed his name cards with the domain name.
For those who needs to use whois, use them from the reputable sources for eg Networksolutions, Opensrs etc. Cant imagine the extent to which people would scoop down to for business nowadays : (
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05-20-2005, 01:30 AM #2WHT Addict
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oddly enough, I was on GoDaddy and going to register hotboxhosting.com and mysteriously someone registered it but is not using it the day after I looked it up
Needless to say, I bought another name and when I found it I didn't think about it this time!
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05-20-2005, 02:39 AM #3Junior Guru
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I had the same problem before. Whois a name, available. Come back a few days later to register, it's gone.
The person who registered it is a famous squatter that I am sure many of you have problem with, his email is lion******@aol.com
The whois service I used is www.domainwhitepages.com. I am not saying that they did this (nor I am saying they didn't). That's just what happened.
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05-20-2005, 02:45 AM #4Newbie
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Interesting. I wondered if this kinda thing happens. I got paranoid anyway and for my first domain names I decided to pick a registrar and then look through their interface to see what was free and bought it right away. I figured since they're selling they won't buy it out from under me. Lots of domains are being squatted, but it's amazing what you can still get using a Thesaurus, "my...", and imagination.
EDIT: What did he pay for the sniped domain name?
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05-20-2005, 02:51 AM #5Web Hosting Guru
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I use whois.sc, and have never had any issues.
What was the name of the domain registration company he checked from?Ovica.com : Web Hosting Is What We Do!
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05-20-2005, 04:25 AM #6Retired Moderator
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He paid 3 times the prices of what was the site's normal domain pricing. I considered it lucky for him.
Originally posted by BigMoneyJim
Interesting. I wondered if this kinda thing happens. I got paranoid anyway and for my first domain names I decided to pick a registrar and then look through their interface to see what was free and bought it right away. I figured since they're selling they won't buy it out from under me. Lots of domains are being squatted, but it's amazing what you can still get using a Thesaurus, "my...", and imagination.
EDIT: What did he pay for the sniped domain name?
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05-20-2005, 06:54 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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I was in the same situation.
That is why I used my own tool to query the registrar directly.
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05-20-2005, 02:30 PM #8ThirtySx Bits Forever!
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I was contemplating a venture under a particular name and queried it a couple of times over a 2 or 3 month period. Suddenly it's registered - and 10 months later remains "under construction".
I had never thought about it till I read this string but when I was keeping an eye on it, it was always through the same "whois".
The venture is still in the "what if stage" so I can afford to wait the extra couple of months to see if it's renewed and use somethign else if it is."Obsolesence is just a lack of imagination."
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05-20-2005, 03:49 PM #9Junior Guru
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Ok wouldn't it be a good idea if we taught the domain squatters a lesson?
I suggest performing whois on many domains each day and then let the squatters register and pay. They're instantly going to start loosing money because they're not going to be able to sell the domains which were not wanted.
Start listing those sqautters whois services!
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05-20-2005, 04:24 PM #10Junior Guru
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If a domain you want does get "squatted", then make sure not to visit the site. If you visit too much, or if other people do, the squatter might want to renew the domain instead of letting it expire. And like said before, only whois it in a way that is secure. Hopefully this problem should go away. Don't encourage it by buying the domains from them, there are always plenty of other tld's to choose from. I understand if you already got stuff printed... but thats not a good decision in the first place :/.
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05-20-2005, 04:51 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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I used to use whois.sc in the past, however I think somehow people are tracking what is searched for on it. Most of the good domain names I came up with on it became registered after a few days.
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05-20-2005, 05:11 PM #12Junior Guru
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Thanks for the information. I never believed it would be true until now What a horrible way to make $$.
Perhaps somebody should set up a squatbaiter team, anonymously use the Whois facilities in his site and do not buy the domain from him
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05-20-2005, 06:09 PM #13Disabled
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domain jacking are famous now days
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05-21-2005, 01:08 AM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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Do you guys know what companies are big on squatting? What about Enom or GoDaddy? Anyone have any problems with them?
I'm asking because I'm using an enom reseller account and don't want my clients to go through this drama!
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05-21-2005, 03:19 AM #15Junior Guru
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FeatureHosting,
I beleive we're talking about the small guys who will stoop to any level to make a few $'s. I don't think we're talking about big companies (I could be wrong though). I doubt you got too much to worry about.
The_Overl, Gotta say I'm with ya there. Getting stuff printed before having the domain registered is pointless and a costly mistake - especially in this situation. I know a good printerwho works cheap. It's cheaper to have stuff reprinted than bid to buy back the domain you wanted.
foress, I'm in for that idea. Lets bankrupt the squatters between us all. I'm sure enough people here have had enough of them so why not hit back?
If the music industry can hiot back at file sharers, then domain registrants can hit back at cyber squatters.
-Turboz
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05-21-2005, 07:35 AM #16Retired Moderator
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They are normally the smaller resellers of the big names. Big names themselves would not stoop so low, their reputation is far more important than the tiny money they can make out of such despicable acts.
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05-21-2005, 11:05 AM #17Junior Guru Wannabe
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Just making sure!
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05-21-2005, 11:31 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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But then most of the time for myself, I would ahve already gone through the process of defining the name of the domain that I want and then with the list of possible domain names I go search for its availability, and if available I buy straight away and start the progject once DNS resolves.
Don't really wait on a domain purchase because prices are not like 10 years ago where I paid 10 times more than what i did now
( I really felt like a "sucker" when I spent $70 bucks on a domain whenever I think back.... Same goes for my 486 PC which costed me thousands..... )-=- GQ Hong -=-
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05-21-2005, 12:25 PM #19Temporarily Suspended
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Never had a problem with DomainRightNow who are part of the WildWest imperium...
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05-21-2005, 06:11 PM #20Retired Moderator
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always use the registrar whois check for availability, usually more trusted than newbie whois sites.
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05-21-2005, 11:09 PM #21Web Hosting Master
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Or just use the 'whois' command on your unix promt
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05-22-2005, 06:51 AM #22Retired Moderator
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regular whois sometimes doesn't show the newly reg'ed domains which require 24/48hrs to get updated in the com/net registry thats why better checking the availability at registrars
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05-22-2005, 07:41 AM #23Temporarily Suspended
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Originally posted by Bashar
regular whois sometimes doesn't show the newly reg'ed domains which require 24/48hrs to get updated in the com/net registry thats why better checking the availability at registrars
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05-22-2005, 07:52 AM #24Retired Moderator
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the registry update instantly (nameserver wise) but the whois wont show at the registry till 24/48hrs
ur talking about rapid dns updates from verisignBashar Al-Abdulhadi - KuwaitNET Internet Services Serving customers since 1997
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05-23-2005, 05:33 AM #25Newbie
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I've always been using Registerfly ( registerfly (dot) com ).
I've registered more then 100 domains with them, and always been using them to perform whois lookups..
Never experienced anything like that.
So, I therefore give a thumbs up on Registerfly