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    Gmail storage rising by the second

    http://gmail.google.com/

    It's hard to determine the intervals in which it rises, here's what I figured out:

    .000037481481481481MB... per second.

    Approximately 3.25MB/week. It's a nice lil' "more storage per second" thing, but obviously it's not hurting Google.

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    G-Mail's storage is rising at about 2.747 megabytes a day, I believe. It works out to one gigabyte a year.

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    Is that a special effect or is that number linked to some sort of calculation system?

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    So is that 3.7481481481481E-14 per nanosecond?
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    That's too much math for me... Imagine all that spaaaaaace!

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    The answer is that Google is the root of all evil

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    They are just trying to compete with all the other servers that now offer 1000 Megs also.........

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    Will hotmail follow suit with the 1 gig?

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    Maybe Hotmail should clean up their site and mailbox first

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    I think they oversell...
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    I have not tried gmail yet. Is it still in the testing stages?

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    I think they oversell...
    I highly doubt it... Google has loads of servers and did you know you can buy 1,000 GB hard drives? I have a tower in my room that can hold up to 5 hard drives. ( 5 x 1,000 GB = 5,000 GB)
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    google must be having some kind of in-built clustering solution which will keep increasing disk space by just adding one more hard drive to it.
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    X-Max, not quite. Google doesn't actually have the space they allot. What they do is add more harddrives [using the term very loosely] as more space is used. So they could add 100GB of space to every account, but won't add a single drive until people actually use the space.

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    Originally posted by DanX
    X-Max, not quite. Google doesn't actually have the space they allot. What they do is add more harddrives [using the term very loosely] as more space is used. So they could add 100GB of space to every account, but won't add a single drive until people actually use the space.
    eveb if they do use all the space i think will just search peoples accounts and find porn or warez etc and just disable all those accounts

    put it this way u aint gunna have 3gb worth of text e-mails thats for sure.

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    In this case, I will buy western digital or hitachi shares!

    1000 Gb HD ? I never heard about. The biggest I know has 400 Gb.
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    Google are definitely over "selling". If you imagine how many google accounts there, and multiply them by 2.2GB, you'd be quite shocked and amazed. Let's say there are 1,000,000 Gmail accounts (there are probably more), the total space provided is 2.2 x 10^6 = 2200000GB.

    I doubt they'll allocate that much hard drive space . They, like most people, know very few people will use the full space.
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    Just a thought here, but i don't think their gmail business model can sustain itself.

    It works fine as long as people are actually occasionally checking their archived mail, since they make money when people do that.

    But 5 years from now a lot of people will keep their old emails on the system and never check them. It's eating up hard-drive space that google doesn't make any money on.

    It may work if hard-drive space gets really, really cheap though, but they still have to pay for an ever increasing infrastructure that they won't make much money on down the road.

    What does everyone else think?

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    In few years, they will prompt people to delete emails older than x years... google are short term players and they oversell anything and too much.
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    I don't even get 2.5 MB of e-mail a day. Google has gone O_O extreme...whoa.
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    google doesn't make any money
    Now Gint, this isn't true. Heard of Adsense?
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    I click on a lot of gmail ads, they are better than the search ads

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    Originally posted by whatever
    Now Gint, this isn't true. Heard of Adsense?
    I think you have misquoted me Whatever. I never said "google doesn't make any money". What I did say was:

    "It may work if hard-drive space gets really, really cheap though, but they still have to pay for an ever increasing infrastructure that they won't make much money on down the road."

    Of course I'm specifically talking about gmail. (Google has a great business model for adsense and their search engine)

    btw: Adsense only works if someone views the page the ad is on. In this case we would be talking about content that is very very seldom viewed.

    -Gint

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    Originally posted by Gint

    But 5 years from now a lot of people will keep their old emails on the system and never check them. It's eating up hard-drive space that google doesn't make any money on.

    Unless of course they open up the search feature to include other peoples mailboxes.

    It's not so far fetched when you consider they have already opened up searching a users mail content to advertisers.

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    Google certainly oversells. I don't know anyone who has used the whole space. Come on, we use 30-75mb at max (usually)!
    By the way Gmail certainly makes a lot of money, never noticed the ads (Adsense) at the right?

    Jesus, do you guys think Google does anything that has any possibility of losing money?
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    Originally posted by Kerry Jones
    I highly doubt it... Google has loads of servers and did you know you can buy 1,000 GB hard drives? I have a tower in my room that can hold up to 5 hard drives. ( 5 x 1,000 GB = 5,000 GB)
    Prey, give us a link to this magical device.


    And...the overselling is a non-issue. Every damn business in the world oversells.

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    Originally posted by Kerry Jones
    I highly doubt it... Google has loads of servers and did you know you can buy 1,000 GB hard drives? I have a tower in my room that can hold up to 5 hard drives. ( 5 x 1,000 GB = 5,000 GB)
    thanks for pointing out that 5x1000gb = 5000gb it was taxing my brain a bit..

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    There's no need for being rude phill2003. He was simply pointing out more clearly, that 1 computer can hold up to 2500 Google Accounts, without overselling. Though I thought the max was 400GB.
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    They have too much space and servers. Just imagine what will happen to us if they start hosting services! They can host any number of pages just if they contain AdSense... True unlimited hosting!
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    Originally posted by Webase
    There's no need for being rude phill2003. He was simply pointing out more clearly, that 1 computer can hold up to 2500 Google Accounts, without overselling. Though I thought the max was 400GB.
    400Gb is the biggest drive out there. I don't know where he got 1000Gb from.

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    Originally posted by edelweisshosting
    They have too much space and servers. Just imagine what will happen to us if they start hosting services!
    Funny you should mention that. Ping Zine has an article on just this. Google has just recently become an accredited registrar. Maybe the next step is hosting. Not sure if they would want to get into such a crowded market though...

    The article points out they already have the infrastructure and expertise with hosting. One thing they don't have is a call center or adequate support system in place though. Since none of their other ventures require support to the degree hosting does, it would be no small step for them.

    -Gint

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    Google Domains Selling, could you beat the cheapest prices?
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    Originally posted by Webase
    There's no need for being rude phill2003. He was simply pointing out more clearly, that 1 computer can hold up to 2500 Google Accounts, without overselling. Though I thought the max was 400GB.
    where was i being rude and also where does he say anything at all about 2500 accounts? I found it remarkably condescending that he thought it necessary to actualy add the amounts up for us as if we were imbeciles and incapable of doing so our selves....

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    Originally posted by phill2003
    where was i being rude and also where does he say anything at all about 2500 accounts? I found it remarkably condescending that he thought it necessary to actualy add the amounts up for us as if we were imbeciles and incapable of doing so our selves....
    Your sarcastic remarks certainly had implicit offensiveness. There was no need for such comment.
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    Originally posted by Gint
    Just a thought here, but i don't think their gmail business model can sustain itself.

    It works fine as long as people are actually occasionally checking their archived mail, since they make money when people do that.

    But 5 years from now a lot of people will keep their old emails on the system and never check them. It's eating up hard-drive space that google doesn't make any money on.

    It may work if hard-drive space gets really, really cheap though, but they still have to pay for an ever increasing infrastructure that they won't make much money on down the road.

    What does everyone else think?
    I would disagree.

    What happens is that the user keeps checking their account for new email. This is where the ads are displayed. The archive function is just a gimmick to get people to sign up. And as for accounts that aren't being checked at all, and are taking up space, that's what the delete account after 9 months without signing in policy is for. Hard drive space will continually become cheaper, so I think what they are doing is sustainable.


    As for the 1000GB hard drive issue. They don't exist. I'm thinking Kerry Jones is thinking of the LaCie 1TB external hard drives, which are actually just a bundle of four 250gb drives together. The biggest drive out currently is 400GB, with a 500GB coming out just around the corner.

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    Hitachi has a 500GB in production, but not hitting the shelves yet.

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    Originally posted by JodoHost(Stephen)
    Hitachi has a 500GB in production, but not hitting the shelves yet.
    Indeed, and let's not forget that Google *may* have special deals with hard drive suppliers . They may be using hard drives that aren't available to the public yet, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
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    I don't think Google would be doing any "beta testing" of hard drives on their production servers. If a hard drive maker hasn't released anything to the public yet, that means they're still developing it or making sure that it's stable enough for the public. In competitive market such as the computer industry, I doubt any company would finish developing a product and not release it to the public just for the sake of delaying it.

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