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05-10-2005, 11:14 AM #1Web Hosting Master
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More than 90 rounds fired during California chase
MONTEREY PARK, Calif. — During a chase, deputies shot more than 90 rounds at a sport-utility vehicle that they thought had been involved in a shooting Monday, police said.
The driver and a sheriff's deputy were wounded, police said.
The 15-minute chase began after police responded to a report that shots had been fired in a Compton neighborhood known for gang-related shootings. They tried to pull over an SUV that had been reported loitering in the neighborhood, but the car sped away.
I'm very shocked by how officers handled this situation and I have a feeling we may see a LA Riots part 2 because remember Rodney King? He got his *** kicked, but this person was unarmed and shot 4 times...Kerry Jones
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05-10-2005, 11:19 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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I, too, am shocked. I can't believe the opened that many rounds of bullets onto the vechicle.
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05-10-2005, 11:46 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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Ugh, look, you weren't there, part of the way this whole country works is that we entrust certain rights to police officers to protect the entire good of the country.
Does that mean that we should just walk merrily by if we notice police abuse or corruption going on? No, however I am getting very sick of people questioning what the police do on a daily basis(those same people if you remembered got all heated when the video came out of the soldier in Iraq shooting a unarmed man on the ground(who we later found out was making a motion like going for a bomb)).
If the police feel their life is threatened, then hell, they should shoot off as many rounds as they feel is necessary...
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05-10-2005, 11:49 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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I saw parts of the video... the police aren't suppose to fire unless a suspect takes what is considered a "hostile action". I highly doubt this guy pointed or even attempted to make it look like he had a gun.
It was also a total disregard for public safety and life... 11 of those rounds hit several nearby houses. How would they of felt if one of their rounds was to hit a child? Remember, they are here to protect and serve not to protect and harm.Kerry Jones
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05-10-2005, 11:53 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by IH-Ken
If the police feel their life is threatened, then hell, they should shoot off as many rounds as they feel is necessary...
And thats the exact excuse they use to get off easy.
I've seen the video. I don't believe the window was down, nor did the guy point a gun out and start shooting. If anything, they should have taken out the wheels. Not shoot into the car knowing you could kill the guy.
And, we should question what the police do.. We should question what the government do. If we don't we become ignorant to our surroundings and thats when #$&@ hits the fan.Money is the root of all evil. So if you don't want to go crazy, give it all to me
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05-10-2005, 11:56 AM #6ex-Aussie
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Actually they'd already taken out his tires with a spike strip. Last I heard the round count was up to 130, with 11-14 hitting houses and one cop getting nailed by his buddy in the crossfire.
If you see the video it sounds like chinese firecrackers going off. Way over the top.Former Webhost... now, just a guy.
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05-10-2005, 11:57 AM #7Retired Moderator
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So many Monday Morning Quarterbacks here....
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05-10-2005, 12:01 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by akashik
Actually they'd already taken out his tires with a spike strip.
If you see the video it sounds like chinese firecrackers going off. Way over the top.
That should have been enough... But nope... Police had to have a fun day. "LETS SEE CAN YOU HIT THE HANDLE ON THE DOOR OF THE TRUCK"Money is the root of all evil. So if you don't want to go crazy, give it all to me
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05-10-2005, 12:01 PM #9Disabled
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They did a good job. Criminals in general, drug dealers, killers etc get off with too much. Minus the shooting in the homes which i'm sure were not their intensions and that's not a good enough excuse, but who cares about some drug dealer who is only corrupting the society even more.
One less parasite on the streets. However, the cops themselves sell drugs so it all comes down to having a badge. Yes this may offend some, but there have been many cases and there are still cases these days pending on how there are quite a few officers who are involved ins ome illegal activity.
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05-10-2005, 12:07 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by UniServe Hosting
They did a good job. Criminals in general, drug dealers, killers etc get off with too much. Minus the shooting in the homes which i'm sure were not their intensions and that's not a good enough excuse, but who cares about some drug dealer who is only corrupting the society even more.
One less parasite on the streets. However, the cops themselves sell drugs so it all comes down to having a badge. Yes this may offend some, but there have been many cases and there are still cases these days pending on how there are quite a few officers who are involved ins ome illegal activity.
Let's not forget teenagers likes to play music loud too... how long will it be before we see officers do the same to a couple of kids? I know they were running from the police, but there is no excuse to fire that amount of rounds unless they see an hostile action.Kerry Jones
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He also ran for more than 4 hours ...
Probably still over the top. I'm simply amazed they didn't kill him (not that they should have, just amazed they missed that many times). 120-130 rounds and the person who's the most hurt is a cop. Silly.Last edited by jeff_2anet; 05-10-2005 at 12:19 PM.
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I was watching this earlier as it happened on the news. There wasn't anything but 2 bullets in the windsheild. The officers were firing at the tires, trying to get the SUV to stop. The guy was a psycho, he was going 90+ mph in residential areas, going over front lawns, school zones, the guy didn't give a damn. I would be shocked at what the person did and his very disregard for human life, not shocked at the officers who did their duty. You try to get an SUV to slow down that's going 90mph, not much you can do except fire at the tires or at the guy himself.
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05-10-2005, 12:33 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by IH-Ken
Ugh, look, you weren't there, part of the way this whole country works is that we entrust certain rights to police officers to protect the entire good of the country.
Originally posted by IH-Ken
Does that mean that we should just walk merrily by if we notice police abuse or corruption going on? No, however I am getting very sick of people questioning what the police do on a daily basis(those same people if you remembered got all heated when the video came out of the soldier in Iraq shooting a unarmed man on the ground
Originally posted by IH-Ken
(who we later found out was making a motion like going for a bomb)).
Originally posted by IH-Ken
If the police feel their life is threatened, then hell, they should shoot off as many rounds as they feel is necessary...
Originally posted by IH-Ken
Meh, just a rant had to get off my chest
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05-10-2005, 12:36 PM #14Russ
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Only in California.
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05-10-2005, 12:42 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Kerry Jones
I saw parts of the video... the police aren't suppose to fire unless a suspect takes what is considered a "hostile action". I highly doubt this guy pointed or even attempted to make it look like he had a gun.
From LA Times:
The incident began shortly after midnight, when deputies responded to a call of gunfire and were told to look for a white SUV.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...home-headlines
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05-10-2005, 12:53 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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The incident began shortly after midnight, when deputies responded to a call of gunfire and were told to look for a white SUV.Kerry Jones
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Originally posted by Kerry Jones
The SUV from what I saw on the video was black and not white. I wonder if the entire video is downloaded and distributed to the internet?
Basically they think that the officers were shooting at each other. There was an officer behind the SUV and when the SUV started backing up he fired...shortly after an officer "tripped' which to other officers in the dark likely looked like he had been shot..so that's what started the gunfire...and basically from there it became a disaster..
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05-10-2005, 01:09 PM #18Disabled
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Hello Kerry,
Compton is not where your average teenager hangs out.
Compton has got to be the most dangerous city around. Check the following chart, yes it's not exactly up to date but farily new statistics of murders etc.
http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics/Crime/cr03.htm
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05-10-2005, 01:44 PM #19Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...
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Originally posted by UniServe Hosting
Hello Kerry,
Compton is not where your average teenager hangs out.
Compton has got to be the most dangerous city around. Check the following chart, yes it's not exactly up to date but farily new statistics of murders etc.
http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics/Crime/cr03.htm
"In 2004, Santa Clarita continued to rank as one of the safest cities in Los Angeles County and the 10th safest in the nation among cities with a population of 100,000 to 499,999. "
This is where I live...YAY, the city has also been ranked #2 and #3 safest cities in the world next to Simi Valley and Thousand Oaks. Whats even more Ironic is that all these cities are a 35 minute drive from Compton, Artesia, Inglewood and Watts.
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05-10-2005, 03:17 PM #20Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by sirius
So many Monday Morning Quarterbacks here....
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Originally posted by TMX
I'd love for some of these guys spend a weekend in a sh*thole like Compton. I' ll bet you they'd see things differently..
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05-10-2005, 03:51 PM #22Business Consultant Manager
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Wow.. that number just keeps going up and up and up. At first it was 40 rounds.. then 50 rounds.. then 55 rounds.. then 60 rounds.. then 70 rounds....then all of a sudden 75 rounds.. then 85 rounds.. now 90 rounds. By tomorrow it will be 250 rounds....
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05-10-2005, 04:00 PM #23Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by UniServe Hosting
Hello Kerry,
Compton is not where your average teenager hangs out.
Compton has got to be the most dangerous city around. Check the following chart, yes it's not exactly up to date but farily new statistics of murders etc.
http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics/Crime/cr03.htm
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05-10-2005, 04:03 PM #24Business Consultant Manager
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I've been down to Compton quite a few times with several basketball teams, and a friend of mine lives in the area. Yea.. its not really a place you want to live or be around..... Yea.. it is all that..
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Maybe for those who walk with your head down. As it is know, you are treated as you walk.
I never had any issues. If others did it's because they were disrespectful and walked with their head down. I've been in worse places.
Edit: between bush thread and your expertise on Compton you must have lived a full life.