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    Running a vps and using plesk

    HI

    What do you need to know/do to run a vps?

    Can managing it and everything be done in a control panel like plesk?

    Where is the most reliable reputiable vps supplyer(within reason just a very good reputiable company)?

    How easy can you move all of your customers from avps to a dedicated server would you have to do it manually?

    Are they good for reseller hosting?

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    Plesk is ok, but you will be better off with cPanel since it's far easier to use than plesk. I recommend you to check out www.solidhost.com they have great support and uptime and they transfer files from your old host for free and you get a ssl for free lol, so many great things. As I have said, I highly recommend them.

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    I can only speak of Virtuozzo VPS with Plesk because that is what I'm familiar with.

    The answer to your first question is absolutely yes. Virtuozzo give you a control panel for the VPS itself and then Plesk is used to manage the hosting accounts on the VPS. You can also install a different control panel, like CPanel, but my understanding is that Plesk and Virtuozzo are designed to work together using less resources than would be the case with another control panel.

    As far as using VPS for reseller hosting goes, I see that as being one of the best applications of VPS. My own opinion is that traditional reseller hosting is going to move in the direction of VPS as VPS matures as a product and becomes more commonly available.

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    Originally posted by uneedawebsit
    my understanding is that Plesk and Virtuozzo are designed to work together using less resources than would be the case with another control panel.
    That's not true, there is no difference in performance. Even though Virtuozzo Power Panel (for instance) has some special integration for Plesk, the performance is pretty much the same, since Plesk and cPanel basically run pretty much the same applications (Apache, MySQL, etc..). Those applications work the same regardless of whether you use Plesk or cPanel.

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    Thank you for that information.

    SWSoft makes it sound like there is some special voodoo between Virtuozzo and Plesk. If what you say it true, we may reconsider offering CPanel with the VPS's.

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    Basically how hard is it to run a vps?

    what is involved?

    Is dedicated better than vps?

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    Originally posted by uneedawebsit
    SWSoft makes it sound like there is some special voodoo between Virtuozzo and Plesk. If what you say it true, we may reconsider offering CPanel with the VPS's.
    I think SW-soft just wants to sell their own products. There may be a little special integration but there is simply no way the difference can be large. You can basically see the VPS as a small dedicated server. Plesk is just the interface, on the backend it just runs Apache - and cPanel does exactly the same.

    The only special thing about it is the integration in the Power Panel (and possibly a few other minor things that I'm not aware of), but definitely not anything major.


    Originally posted by tom.webdev
    Basically how hard is it to run a vps?

    what is involved?

    Is dedicated better than vps?

    Running a VPS comes down to exactly the same as running a dedicated server.

    You can't really say that dedicated is better than VPS or the other way around. It totally depends on the specs of the dedicated and the specs of the VPS. In general a VPS can be a good deal faster than a low-end dedicated server, since a VPS can (usually) burst resources. Nevertheless it speaks for itself that (in nearly every case) a VPS won't be as fast as a Dual Xeon 3.0ghz.

    VPS has the advantage that it's cheap, and you really get a lot for a relatively low price. If you would compare a VPS of $50/month with a low-end dedicated server of $50/month - the VPS will perform better (in most cases).

    Another advantage is the licencing costs for the customer. For instance a cPanel license on a dedicated server costs (typically) $30 per month, while it costs less than $10/month on VPS's (with most hosts).

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    But most webhost offering 30 domain license for Plesk and you have to pay extra bucks if you want more than 30 domains. 100 domain license is not that cheap, same goes for the plesk unlimited license.

    Better go with cpanel.

    And one more thing. My current host says that they are having problems with running cpanel on plesk since it eats up much resources for running cpanel on virtuozzo.

    Peace out!

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    Hi!
    Also remember that you can register and download the free
    1 domain and 1 email limited version of Plesk just to try it out and see if it's what you want. If not...you could always remove it..remake the VPS...and put whatever you wanted on it.

    I am surprised..honestly...that most of the discussions on this board are limited to only Cpanel and Plesk like those two are the only two options. Such is not true at all.

    For the geekier types:
    webmin http://www.webmin.com
    Direct Admin http://directadmin.com
    VHCS http://vhcs.net
    Interworx http://interworx.info
    CP+ http://cpplus.info
    HSP complete http://psoft.net
    Confixx http://psoft.net

    Some are free..some are not. Some you can download and try...some have very nice online demos. Bon Appetite!

    This list is far from complete...I think these are most of the main ones. though.

    Bryon
    Last edited by bryonhost1; 07-26-2005 at 09:38 AM.

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    Hi!
    Ops.

    HSPcomplete and Confixx are sw-soft! http://www.sw-soft.com

    Bryon

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    DirectAdmin is a very nice alternative to cPanel. It uses less resources which makes an ideal CP for a VPS and almost matches the functionality of cPanel. Also in some cases it is cheaper if you buy a resold licence.

    Good luck!
    Regards,
    datruesurfer

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    webmin is also gonna be a good friend for you too especially if you dont like shell

    http://webmin.com
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