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04-23-2005, 05:39 PM #1Web Hosting Evangelist
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Buying a TLD from underneath you....!!
Ok, first of all I want to say, "Please do not give me the, you should have speach". I already know. That having been said, just yesterday, someone registered the .net TLD for my domain. It is clear that I have been using this trade mark for my business and I am not too worried about this. However, I really would like to get this domain. I tried registering it today, this is how I found out. Day late and a domain short now, I am pretty upset.
Are there any steps that can be taken to get this domain from this person?
The registrar of this domain used this site for his info. So, it is apparent that he/she is in the same industry. What could this person possibly want with this domain? What could their intentions be?
http://www.bluearctic.com
Also, I am not sure if it is coincidence, but just yesterday I was messing around with my enom reseller account in test mode registering domains. I test regitered this exact domain. Is there someone who scours these test domain registrations and registers them from underneath people?
It just seems a little awkward that I was doing that yesterday and then it gets registered in the same day.
Any advice, suggestions, experiences, or comments are appreciated. However, I am not interested in hearing that " You should have regitered it to start with!"[color=#666666]Ackoo Solutions, LLC
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04-23-2005, 06:33 PM #2Junior Guru
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Something similar happened to me with a test name registration last year like a few days after i tested it out it got registered which I found extremely werid. I am pretty sure your theory is correct.
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04-23-2005, 08:32 PM #3Junior Guru
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The created date for bluearctic.com is 2002/12/10 and 2003/9/9
for bluearctic.net. It's probably because eNom test site database is not current and lets you test register taken domains.
Registrant:
blue arctic +1.3216248337
blue arctic
4438 Freedom Rd.
Kissimmee,Florida,US 34746
Domain Name:bluearctic.com
Record last updated at 2004-10-13 22:54:52
Record created on 2002/12/10
Record expired on 2005/12/10
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.bluearctic.net ns2.bluearctic.net
Administrator:
nameblue arctic)
Email) tel-- +1.3216248337
blue arctic
4438 Freedom Rd.
t Kissimmee
Florida,
US
zipcode:34746
Registrant:
blue arctic LLC +1.3216248337
blue arctic Inc.
4438 Freedom Rd.
Kissimmee,Florida,US 34746
Domain Name:bluearctic.net
Record last updated at 2005-02-24 22:44:53
Record created on 2003/9/9
Record expired on 2006/9/9
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.bluearctic.net ns2.bluearctic.net
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04-23-2005, 09:22 PM #4Retired Moderator
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if you own the TM you might be able to get it via UDRP or offer the current owner some money and safe costs on lawyers raising a udrp
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04-23-2005, 11:42 PM #5Web Hosting Evangelist
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he didn't take bluearctic from me, it was ackoo.net.
Bashar, i have been looking into that, I have not officially registered the trade mark. However, it is common knowledge that I own that mark as it is publically displayed and is my business name.[color=#666666]Ackoo Solutions, LLC
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04-24-2005, 12:41 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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Re: Buying a TLD from underneath you....!!
Originally posted by Ackoo
Ok, first of all I want to say, "Please do not give me the, you should have speach". I already know. That having been said, just yesterday, someone registered the .net TLD for my domain.
Just be thankful that you didn't brand the .net, and then someone comes along and grabs the .com. You're brand is pretty much stuffed when that happens.• WLVPN.com • NetProtect owned White Label VPN provider •
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04-24-2005, 03:07 AM #7Junior Guru
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Re: Re: Buying a TLD from underneath you....!!
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Well, it's not optimum, not having the .net of your .com, but the .net is inferior, and the .com will get spilliage up from the .net. I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. Whatever they do on their .net, will only create some spilliage up to your .com. Your .com is master and superior to the .net, so chin up!
Just be thankful that you didn't brand the .net, and then someone comes along and grabs the .com. You're brand is pretty much stuffed when that happens.
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04-24-2005, 04:58 PM #8Web Hosting Evangelist
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thanks grind, I know that, as I mentioned twice in my post. I was just holding off for some stupid reason. I also assumed that no one would want the other TLDs.
On the comment about spillage. I don't want that in any way. I do not want a .net tarnishing my mark. I will protect it if necessary by legal means. However, I am just not sure at the moment if there is really anything that I can do to obtain the domain.[color=#666666]Ackoo Solutions, LLC
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04-24-2005, 09:21 PM #9Web Hosting Master
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hmmm...
Don't know if you'd want to try this, but you could lookup the whois info and see who it is registered to and then give them a call and see if they'd be willing to give it to you or sell it for small fee, say something like $100.
Again, don't know if that's something you want to try, but just a thought...Daniel B., CEO - Bezoka.com and Ungigs.com
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04-25-2005, 11:42 AM #10Aspiring Evangelist
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Re: Re: Buying a TLD from underneath you....!!
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Just be thankful that you didn't brand the .net, and then someone comes along and grabs the .com. You're brand is pretty much stuffed when that happens.
Alan.