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04-23-2005, 12:26 AM #1Web Hosting Guru
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CPanel on CentOS 4 - stable?
I plan to get a new server and run CPanel on CentOS 4, but I have heard there's an issue with SELinux and it needs to be disabled before installing CPanel. Is that true?
Provided that we disable SELinux and can get CPanel installed properly, how does it perform on CentOS 4? Is it rock solid, as in CentOS 3.x and can we trust it for a live production server?
Will CPanel support CentOS 4 with SELinux in the near future?
Thanks in advance for all the inputs and have a great weekend!
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04-23-2005, 12:34 AM #2Problem Solver
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as far as i know there are no plans to support selinux, selinux in my opinion is far from stable and should be avoided.
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04-23-2005, 12:51 AM #3Web Hosting Guru
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Thanks for the quick reply Steve!
So with SELinux disabled, does CPanel run stable and rock solid on CentOS 4? Any other glitches that we should be aware of?
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04-23-2005, 01:12 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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We have experience issues with Centos 4. Lot of small issues as well. I prefer not to use it until Cpanel releases stable version
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04-23-2005, 01:26 AM #5Web Hosting Guru
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server4sale, thanks for the input, may I know what kind of small issues did you experience?
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04-23-2005, 01:34 AM #6Problem Solver
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according to the cpanel guys it should work on edge
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04-23-2005, 01:35 AM #7Problem Solver
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Ive been using it since it was released (centos 4 that is) the only thing i had problems with was initally getting exim setup one a couple boxes.
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04-23-2005, 01:47 AM #8Disabled
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yeah if you edit /scripts/exim4 and add --nomd5 it generally will install fine.
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04-23-2005, 02:08 AM #9THE Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by server4sale
We have experience issues with Centos 4. Lot of small issues as well. I prefer not to use it until Cpanel releases stable versionKarl Zimmerman - Founder & CEO of Steadfast
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04-23-2005, 10:43 AM #10Retired Moderator
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There are quite a few issues with CentOS 4 itself and the new versions of packages that Redhat roll out in RHE4.
With Cpanel itself, Seliux is simply a different security model and even if Cpanel has plans, I doubt it will be anytime soon as Cpanel security is largely based on the conventional user and file permissions. (and Selinux is a total different story).
Cpanel will install fine but from experience Exim won't install till you use the nomd5 switch (on new boxes).
The main issue is the new versions used. Examples are Clamav if you install from source, logwatch (with certain settings) etc
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04-23-2005, 01:20 PM #11Web Hosting Guru
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Okay, I think I got the point
How long do you think RHEL 4 / CentOS 4 will eventually be fully compatible with the major control panels? I heard Plesk also doesn't fully support RHEL 4 due to this SELinux thing.
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04-23-2005, 01:56 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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There is a CentOS 4.0 x86_64 / CPanel gltich tho because if you run easy apache, libphp4.so and libxml will be misplaced. Once the CPanel installation is done you will not be able to see php pages and you will see why.
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04-23-2005, 04:50 PM #13Problem Solver
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cpanel + x86_64 == problems anyways
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04-23-2005, 06:09 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by KarlZimmer
From what I've seen, there are lots of small issues with cPanel no matter what OS you put it on :-)
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04-23-2005, 06:19 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by nickn
From what I've seen, those who have that many problems with cPanel have a general lack of experience and/or clue.
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04-23-2005, 07:36 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by shockuk
Not always. At times CPanel can be very buggy software, and give the best of administrators headaches. Other times (the large majority), CPanel works like a charm and is a total workhorse.
Basically you're saying the vast majority of the time cPanel works like a charm and is a total workhorse, but there can be times where it has problems? Yes, sounds like any other software.
cPanel isn't perfect, I never claimed this, but we have now have over 150 cPanel servers, and I can't remember the last cPanel bug that affected us to any large degree. Each and every server is a workhorse..sure there might be a hurdle to get over occasionally, but overall, the problem with cPanel is people think they can run it out of the box with no prior experience.
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04-24-2005, 03:01 AM #17Newbie
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When cpanel run on windows? Please fast!
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04-24-2005, 04:04 AM #18Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by shockuk
At times CPanel can be very buggy software, and give the best of administrators headaches. Other times (the large majority), CPanel works like a charm and is a total workhorse.
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04-24-2005, 04:05 AM #19Retired Moderator
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Clamav and SpamAssassin is 2 different software.
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Provided that we disable SELinux and can get CPanel installed properly, how does it perform on CentOS 4? Is it rock solid, as in CentOS 3.x and can we trust it for a live production server?
I was so wrong thinking it'd be a simple matter of an OS install, and then a quick cPanel install on top of that, once the cPanel install completed, virtually everything was broken, I didn't even manage to get into WHM.
Reloaded to 3.4 and all my problems were solved
cPanel isn't perfect, I never claimed this, but we have now have over 150 cPanel servers, and I can't remember the last cPanel bug that affected us to any large degree. Each and every server is a workhorse..sure there might be a hurdle to get over occasionally, but overall, the problem with cPanel is people think they can run it out of the box with no prior experience.
-The bug with a certain cPanel release that caused Apache to crash and continue crashing constantly.
-The bug that magically made peoples bandwidth usage go through the sky, resulting in people being charged for overage they hadn't used.
-The issue with the broken chrooted named, which meant an awful lot of file editing was required to actually get it to work.
The list goes on and on ....
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04-24-2005, 06:33 AM #21Retired Moderator
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Originally posted by RazorBlue - Dan
I was so wrong thinking it'd be a simple matter of an OS install, and then a quick cPanel install on top of that, once the cPanel install completed, virtually everything was broken, I didn't even manage to get into WHM
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04-24-2005, 03:07 PM #22Web Hosting Guru
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Thanks again for all the thoughtful inputs. I guess it's still too early to expect CPanel + CentOS 4 to be stable.
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04-24-2005, 06:27 PM #23Web Hosting Master
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There's a thread about this right now in the Cpanel fourms.
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04-25-2005, 01:07 AM #24Retired Moderator
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Originally posted by blueface
Thanks again for all the thoughtful inputs. I guess it's still too early to expect CPanel + CentOS 4 to be stable. Like us on Facebook to qualify for discounts!
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Originally posted by hiepgia
When cpanel run on windows? Please fast!
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