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04-21-2005, 05:34 PM #1Web Hosting Master
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Blurring the line between dedicated and colocation...
I've been trying to remember... a couple years ago there was a dedicated-server provider who had some sort of deal where you could send them a bootable hard drive, and they'd install it in a dedicated server in their facility. They took care of PSU/CPU/memory/NIC/mobo replacement, if necessary, and you were responsibe for supplying drives... anyone know who I'm talking about?
I was thinking about them, because we, at the moment, aren't colocating anything, just leasing dedicated boxes. I've been playing with crypto stuff a lot lately - installing EGD, tweaking SSL, stunnel'ing anything that can be stunnel'd - and recently picked up a nifty PCI encryption-accelerator card that, frankly, would be a lot more useful in a server than in one of our office workstations. I thought it'd be neat if I could just ship the card to one of our dedicated providers and have them bung it into one of our servers..
Anyway, that just got me to thinking about blurring the line between dedicated and colocated servers, which could be nice for the end-users but would probably be a PITA for the providers. That said, anyone ever done anything like that? Supply their own drives, or memory, or RAID card, or whatever, for a dedicated server?redpin.com - offering amazingly competent email, dns, and web hosting since 2002... because someone has to!
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04-21-2005, 05:48 PM #2Web Hosting Guru
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As far as I know you can only supply hardware for colos. After all, when you rent a box you are not responsible for its hardware.
Anyway if I find someone offering this kind of deal I let you know.ACcomunica
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04-21-2005, 07:19 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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I would think this would be more hassle than it's worth for a provider. It's one thing to say:
"Okay, we are responsible for all the computers in this rack"
"This rack is full of co-lo servers, we need not worry about those"
It is a completely different thing to say:
"Okay, we are NOT responsible for the hard drive (pci cards, raid, etc.) in server 3, 5, 7, 8, 12 and 19 in this rack"SuperWebHost.com, a Digitally Justified Company
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04-21-2005, 08:23 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by VanHost
I would think this would be more hassle than it's worth for a provider. It's one thing to say:
"Okay, we are responsible for all the computers in this rack"
"This rack is full of co-lo servers, we need not worry about those"
It is a completely different thing to say:
"Okay, we are NOT responsible for the hard drive (pci cards, raid, etc.) in server 3, 5, 7, 8, 12 and 19 in this rack"
You're best off just colo'ing a box, if you absolutely have to have the encryption card in there. It gives you more of a choice when it comes to CPU, RAM, and even mobo. Plus, you get one of those nifty ID badges to go in and maintain your server (if you're willing to travel to the DC.)
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04-22-2005, 01:47 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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why not send the whole box with the card?
are u using the rainbow accelerators? we have them as wellhttp://Ethr.net jay@ethr.net
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04-22-2005, 02:21 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Mfjp
why not send the whole box with the card?
At the moment, we don't really need another server, and probably won't until July/August. I was just idly speculating... I'll probably look into what upgrade options there are with our existing providers; old Celerons can do an awful lot, but heavy crypto isn't one of them.
are u using the rainbow accelerators? we have them as wellredpin.com - offering amazingly competent email, dns, and web hosting since 2002... because someone has to!
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04-22-2005, 10:23 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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We actually benchmark the rainbow accelerator cards before by doing https transaction. Though the accelerators are cheap, we found it quite amazing. They do work and acclerate https by 10 times. We also gave an old Nortel a try doing the same task and they were performing just comparable.
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