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[ub3r]

I've heard that jesus died on good friday, and came back to life on easter.

What happend to jesus after he came back to life on easter? Did he die another time?

Help me out, people.

[akashik]

Actually the death and supposed rebirth of Jesus never happened around what's now considered Easter. To boost the numbers Christians used this date to 'negate' the Festival of Spring - one of those nasty heathen/pagan things.

The same way they did it to the Winter Solstice (late December - Jesus' birth).

Given the dates are all made up, who knows what happened to the guy (I'm in favor of simple grave robbing by religious zeolots, then laying the 'blame' on devine intervention myself).

[GoTek-JP]

http://www.christianadvice.net/Jesus...surrection.htm

Edit: One aspect they haven't brought up after reading this, what if Jesus had a twin brother ?

[Aussie Bob]

Originally posted by mikeylove
. . . What happend to jesus after he came back to life on easter?

He didn't come back to life on Easter. These are just dates that someone decided long back that folks would celebrate such, and folks could have a sweet long weekend holiday.

Did he die another time?

No, according to Christian theology, he ascended to heaven shortly after his reserection, and promised to come back to establish his Kingdom >> 2nd coming of Christ (Millenial reign etc).

[ub3r]

Actually the death and supposed rebirth of Jesus never happened around what's now considered Easter. To boost the numbers Christians used this date to 'negate' the Festival of Spring - one of those nasty heathen/pagan things.

The same way they did it to the Winter Solstice (late December - Jesus' birth).

Given the dates are all made up, who knows what happened to the guy (I'm in favor of simple grave robbing by religious zeolots, then laying the 'blame' on devine intervention myself).

If they were made up days, then why didn't they space them further apart, or even have them happen on friday and saturday?

I don't know what to believe. If the story says that jesus' body rose up from out of the sand, then why do they say that only the rest of our souls go to heaven? Why didn't they just write the story so that jesus' soul went there? I imagine the sand there was pretty thick, how could his arms move in such a compact space to dig himself out? The only logical story would be that one of his deciples dug him out.

[(Stephen)]

It was 3 days, but the days we celebrate where picked long ago for to reasons that I know of.
1. The catholic church had a lot of governmental power.
2. Sometimes the pagan holiday was recognized and christian not, so christians during certain times celebrated on the same day as pagans because they were "off work", so to speak.

Also, the grave was of the cave in a set of rocks variety, not the 6 feet under style.

[Aussie Bob]

The tomb was not covered in dirt etc. It's not like a grave as we know it. Just think of it as a cave, with a large rock that seals it. According to theology, upon Jesus's death, he went into hell (part called Paradise) and "led captivity captive" before his resurrection and subsequent ascention into heaven . . .

[akashik]

Originally posted by mikeylove
If they were made up days, then why didn't they space them further apart, or even have them happen on friday and saturday?

I don't know what to believe. If the story says that jesus' body rose up from out of the sand, then why do they say that only the rest of our souls go to heaven? Why didn't they just write the story so that jesus' soul went there? I imagine the sand there was pretty thick, how could his arms move in such a compact space to dig himself out? The only logical story would be that one of his deciples dug him out.

Well he was supposedly in a cave (the stone rolled back etc).

I wonder myself why he had to be resurrected to go to heaven when the deal today is you just make peace, die and go to heaven - no need to walk about after three days of rotting.

In all it's a nice morality tale (the whole book). I question the 'gilded kingdom' the Cathlolic Church is nowdays, and I'm pretty sure those guys 'way back when' would be pretty horrified with what their idea became. It seems even today that God is supposed to be 'inside all of us' and no 'graven images' should be made - and yet you see churches and crucifixes left and right.

Like any idea, given enough time, it gets boiled down to silly phrases, dogmatic principle, and catchprases.

Christianity now is little more than a grab-bag of this and that (dates and ideology), that's mass produced and easily swallowed.

Appealing to the lowest common denominator generally guarantees you a lot of 'bums on seats'.

[ub3r]

Why did jesus go to hell the first time around?

[GoTek-JP]

Aussie Bob or Pastor Bob ?

[akashik]

Originally posted by mikeylove
Why did jesus go to hell the first time around?

Hell, or more correctly Sheol is considered, and connected with, the grave. It's furthermore considered where both the rightous and the wicked reside temporalily. I presume you get your boarding pass there to then go 'up or down'.

It's all dogma of course. I'm sure Bob can fill in the details better.

[AdmiralSpock]

There is nothing in the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John that say anything (according to New King James Version) about Him going to hell. There is nothing in The Message (thought-for-thought translation) that says he went to hell first. And I am certain there is nothing in the New International Version, King James version, Living Bible, or any other translation of the Bible, up to the original Greek that said he went to hell first.

Something I did not understand as I read Mark 16:9 where it says,

[9] Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

I looked up John Wesley's commentary on this, and there was a reference to John 20:11. But that didn't say much.

I'm not a Bible scholar or anything, but if Jesus went to hell first then the Gospels, especially in The Message, would have said so.

He died. He came back to life. If you have seen The Passion of the Christ, at the end, it shows him alive again and normal-looking, except for his hands (from the nails).

Then, he went to heaven to be at the Father's side.

As far as I know, and as far as the Bible states, He died. He came back to life. He went to heaven.

Edit: I must add that I quoted Mark 16:9 - and bear in mind that the earliest manuscripts of Mark do not include 16:9-20, so do not, as my Pastor says, build a theology off it. Instead, consider what the entire Bible says. Jesus died for our sins. Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but through Christ Jesus you can have life (I paraphrased that).

[akashik]

Originally posted by AdmiralSpock
I looked up John Wesley's commentary on this, and there was a reference to John 20:11. But that didn't say much.

Of the Methodist Church?

" Believing that their usefulness and efficiency were promoted by being changed from one circuit to another every year or two, he established the "itinerancy", and insisted that his preachers submit to its rules. When, in 1788, some objected to the frequent changes, he wrote, "For fifty years God has been pleased to bless the itinerant plan, the last year most of all. It must not be altered till I am removed, and I hope it will remain till our Lord comes to reign on earth.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wesley

Again I tend to question any man who uses God to further his own agenda.

[The Dude]

I wish we knew his exact birthdate......

I have heard others say that he was not born on Dec 25th.....Well,when was he born???? Does ne 1 no?????

[Disgruntled]

Putting aside the issue of how much is fact or fiction:
The Bible is not at all clear about what time of year Jesus was born. The Bible does tie the crucifiction to the time of the Passover. That puts it at about late March to late April.
The Gospels say that Jesus visited with his disciples. Mark and Luke said that he then rose up into heaven. Luke said that happened at Bethany. According to John Jesus revealed himself three times after being resurrected. The second visit to doubting Thomas was eight days after the first appearance.