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[streetmedia]

Im thinking about going with a third party dns provider.

At the moment i get all my domain names from enom, and host them on my vps at servint.

I use my own nameservers through my whm panel, ns1.myname.com and ns2.myname.com, so it's my servint box that handles the ns?...


What are the advantages to using this third party service?

As i understand, in case of emergency, because the domains are controlled remotly and not on the servint box, i can redirect the ns pretty much in real time, for redundancy?

This would mean i would be after a second, perhaps reseller account for backup?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you very much!!!

EDIT: would i be able to offer a lot more nameservers this way, liek ns1, ns2, ns3, ns4, ns5 etc for extra redundancy?

cheers

[A|J]

Yes, if you use say www.dnsmadeeasy.com or enom's nameservers, you will be getting top class dns service. Both of them use 5 geographically distrubuted dns servers for redundancy.

The main advantages of using a 3rd party dns provider is that if bind or your existing dns server goes down, your domains will continue to resolve (as long as the 3rd party dns providers servers are still running). Also, the redundancy as mentioned earlier.

[Bashar]

if you get your domains from enom then use enom's nameservers its free with every domain and VERY stable from personal experience.

i used my dns just for more branding otherwise i would used enom all the way.

3rd party dns services ar egood for registrars that doesn't offer DNS hosting for free with every domain registration.

if you are on vps your best option to use enom at the moment and not use your own dns since if 1 goes down (ur own box) sites will go down

[dmaven]

zoneedit is a good backup to have.

[andreb]

apologies for my ignorance - what do you mean by "redundancy" and "resolving"? Thanks!

[Tobarja]

See:
Domain Name System - Wikipedia
DNS GLOSSARY by MEN & MICE

[Rusty500]

Originally posted by 2fangs
Yes, if you use say www.dnsmadeeasy.com or enom's nameservers, you will be getting top class dns service. Both of them use 5 geographically distrubuted dns servers for redundancy.

Actually I believe DNS Made Easy has many more than 5 geographic locations. From what I know of them, they have name servers in over 20 different cities and implement an IP anycasted network for redundancy and to prevent problems with DDoS attacks.

-Russell

[A|J]

Originally posted by Rusty500
Actually I believe DNS Made Easy has many more than 5 geographic locations. From what I know of them, they have name servers in over 20 different cities and implement an IP anycasted network for redundancy and to prevent problems with DDoS attacks.

-Russell

Where did you hear that? I think you might have confused dnsmadeeasy.com with ultradns.com

[tiggee]

Originally posted by 2fangs
Where did you hear that? I think you might have confused dnsmadeeasy.com with ultradns.com

No, there was no confusion in the post.

We have had a distributed anycasted network for a few months now. Something we started in the 4th quarter of 2004.
The previous post was correct. DNS Made Easy does have an anycasted network for redundancy.

[streetmedia]

Originally posted by Bashar
if you get your domains from enom then use enom's nameservers its free with every domain and VERY stable from personal experience.

i used my dns just for more branding otherwise i would used enom all the way.

3rd party dns services ar egood for registrars that doesn't offer DNS hosting for free with every domain registration.

if you are on vps your best option to use enom at the moment and not use your own dns since if 1 goes down (ur own box) sites will go down

im liking the vanity of ns1.myname.com -> ns5.myname.com

can anyone answer a couple more of my questions...

the packages in dns made easy seem to offer different numbers of domain names to be controlled; am i correct in that these are only the domain names i want to use as my main host?

eg, i use myname.com as nameservers at dns made easy, but for all the domains i point to that, will they be considered part of my limit?

[Rasbelin]

Based on the website of DNS Made Easy (especially the maps) and where the IPs of the nameservers resolve, apparently all of their DNS servers are located in USA, which certainly doesn't make it that redundant that they may claim. I went with DNS Park, as gave me the option to have in two diverse locations and not on one continent. If someone really wants redundancy and understands that the Internet isn't just the US, then one is better off looking elsewhere. UltraDNS, SecuritySpace, ZoneEdit and DNS Park have more diverse networks than DNS Made Easy, based on my one-by-one manual checks where the servers are.

[A|J]

Rasbelin, it seems like you are right. Despite their claims of worldwide dns servers, from their maps - http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/s0306/res/ipanycast.html - and their text,

Ashburn, VA
Richmond, VA
Chicago, IL
Austin, TX
San Jose, CA
British Columbia, Canada
Seattle, WA
Santa Clara, CA
Los Angeles, CA
and many many more!!!

it seems that the only dns servers outside of the United States is the one located in BC.

[tiggee]

Originally posted by 2fangs
it seems that the only dns servers outside of the United States is the one located in BC.

Umm.... that's not true at all and I apologize if our pages are not totally updated. But we do have networks available in Amsterdam and Tokyo for use with our anycasted network. If resolution is impossible to other facilities those locations should light up.
This is why IP anycast is such a powerful routing protocol for DNS. Unlike most providers where only one city responds to an IP you can have multiple cities reply to the IP (even dynamically as in our case).

[P2T]

Originally posted by tiggee
But we do have networks available in Amsterdam and Tokyo for use with our anycasted network. If resolution is impossible to other facilities those locations should light up.

tiggee, I'd suggest updating http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/s0306/res/ipanycast.html soon. The picture is quite useful to understand how it works. But I also thought the servers resided only in US.

[tiggee]

Originally posted by P2T
tiggee, I'd suggest updating http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com/s0306/res/ipanycast.html soon. The picture is quite useful to understand how it works. But I also thought the servers resided only in US.

We apologize for the confusion. But that picture is used to explain how IP anycast works. No where does it state that is where our systems are located. It is just a lesson on IP anycast and how useful it is to a well managed DNS network. That is how many of the root name servers always stay up.

I will make sure someone updates the page to indicate that precisely.