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Also, Google shows your "customer" Paul Riker thinks more than 130 hosts are the best, most honest he's ever encountered, yours included.
I think, by your own TOS, you are obligated to suspend your own site...
It's pretty easy when the member posts a thread offering 5 Tb. of bandwidth for $20/mo. This may or may not be legitimate (I think it's obvious where I'm leaning), but it sends up enough red flags to warrant a little extra digging. Someone else actually noticed this and pointed it out in a discussion on my boards. I'll leave it to that member to decide if he/she wants to take credit publicly for it or not ( (s)he's a member here as well).
hawr.com is hosting at The Planet, same as HostGator. It's remotely possible there's some sort of arrangement whereby HG is providing them with oodles of bandwidth for next to nothing (that's their prerogative, though I find myself doubting it), and it's even possible HostGator has agreed to be the arbiter of their spam disputes, as the TOS implies.
There's no question about the bogus testimonials though. I don't care if they came with a template or not. If you post them in relation to your site, you're lying. It was that page that was the determining factor in posting this thread. Another small point about the copyright being 2003 and the domain name being registered in August 2004 is one that warrants a second look as well, but it's possible that could be explained, though the increasing number of suspicious items makes it look fishier by the minute...
If I'm wrong about the TOS, and and those testimonials actually do belong to hawr.com and everyone else is guilty of ripping them from hawr, I'll eat crow the rest of the day and offer more apologies than you've ever seen a member make. I'm reasonably confident this won't be the case.
I've had a few people steal my webdesign (a template). The reason I know, is because they leave the mainpage text exactly the same. Some of them do horrible jobs, and even leave signup links as mine in some cases.
Wow. I've seen that text in the "about us" section elsewhere. It says that they've been offering hosting since 1999, then says they weren't actually offering hosting but pointing people elsewhere, then says in '98 they started offering hosting (isn't that before '99? lol).
Yes, looks down. Thanks to fasthosts.co.uk (I presume)
For me, the right thing to do is what works for you! I still do table designs as well when I want something done quick. Wasn't a criticism at all - I rather like the look. And when splitting design between a few firms, tables probably works best.
Ok, so his last advertisement was erased from WHT, containing links to his stolen site design. What does he do? He posts the same advertisement again to the same stolen site!
Funny how he cleaned out his testimonials and took out HostGator's name from the otherwise ripped TOS, but didn't have the...guts...to respond to the allegations of his dishonesty, which have hence been proven to be true. Sad. Very sad. At least if someone does a little research on hawr, this thread will be found and the company will be exposed as deserved. Time to contact HG and WHT mods for a little more housecleaning...
Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I just discovered the, umm.. incredible deals that hawr.com claims and found this discussion.
So, despite this whole thread, they still mention hostgator.com directly in their FAQ. I guess they ripped the FAQ as well, lazily left hostgator's name in there, and didn't even fix it after getting yelled at the first time around:
A. To create a sub domain cpanel asks for the name you wish to use. MAKE SURE the subdomain name you give it doesn't have a folder already named that name. If it does the sub will not work. Example... I want to create the subdomain test.hostgator.com so my sub name is going to be test. If I already have a folder in my ftp named test I need to delete it or rename it to something different before I create the subdomain with the test name from cpanel.
And the "about" text that talks about starting their "superior" web hosting in 1998 appears on 98 other web hosts as well, according to Google. Hmm, actually, the few of those I've looked at has the same hostgator FAQ as well, but those actually look like they're hostgator resellers. I guess hostgator just happens to have a lot of lazy resellers who left the template FAQ and About pages the way they came... So I guess hawr.com stole the About Us text from the hostgator template as well?