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Old 03-09-2005, 02:26 AM
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My First Dedicated... Need Help Choosing.


Well, I'll make this short and sweet, a friend and I are finally investing in a dedicated server and I guess I need help choosing one. Here are the things it had to have:

> At least a P4 or compatible processor.
> Ensim as its control panel.
> Preferably under $200, better if it's under $150.

So here are the choices I found based on searches from WHT.

FastServers.net (Started at $158, Configured to ~$200)
P4 3.0 (w/HT and 800Mhz Bus), 512MB RAM, 120GB IDE
(What discouraged me about this was the high setup charge, and the fact that it makes no difference whether you pay monthly or yearly.)

Ev1 ($189)
P4 2.4Ghz, 2x80GB HD, 1GB RAM
($1 set-up charge, and not a bad monthly either, but I've seen VERY mixed reviews about them as of late.

ServerPath ($199)
P4 2.6 GHz, 512 MB RAM, 80GB HD
(I dunno, guess I was kind of indifferent to this one since if I configured it, I know it would go over that rate.)

RocketColo ($164)
P4 2.40 GHz, 512 MB RAM, 2x80GB HD
(Like the price, haven't seen much about their track record.)

iWeb ($159)
P4 2.4GHz processor, 2x80GB IDE HD, 1GB RAM
(Heard a lot of good things about them. But looking for more input.)


So... if I could get any help on this, or if you guys have any other suggestions, I'd REALLY appreciate the help. :]


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Old 03-09-2005, 04:34 AM
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If you don't mind me asking, what do you plan on using the dedicated server for?

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Old 03-09-2005, 04:45 AM
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one thing, i have a friend with two servers at fastservers and the avrage uptime on them is only about 60% - their network is frankly crap

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Old 03-09-2005, 07:03 AM
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One thing to keep in mind, a dedicated server is nothing like a shared server. There is a ton of management involved when you take a step like this, make sure you get some kind of management for your server if you are unexperienced.

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Old 03-09-2005, 07:52 AM
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Ev1 has a great network... and there price / service level is good.

There support is good, got a nice community as well.
They have a lot of extra's... frankly i dont know much about the others to be honest only heard there names.

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Old 03-09-2005, 08:04 AM
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I would have added 15minuteservers to the list:

http://www.15minuteservers.com/Welcome.asp

Make sure to read feedback regarding them as well.

From the companies you have listed, I had a server with ev1 and they have been pretty stable for me.

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Old 03-09-2005, 08:07 AM
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Go with Ev1 if you know how to manage your own server. Their connection is very good.

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Old 03-09-2005, 11:51 AM
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I'm surprised by the comments on EV1. I had two boxes with them in the past few years and the network was always horriblly laggy with quite a few outages. Perhaps they've fixed it, but...I'd check to be sure before dropping any quid on a box.

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:07 PM
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The ev1 forums seems to have multiple irrate customers daily on it...whether this is just the fix it over the forums culture ev1 have created I don't know, but i've seen a number of recurring issues there such as harddrives not being wiped before being given to other customers.

In my personal opinion, and this is from someone who used to work for a company with 6 or so servers there, their core staff are absolutely awesome, Patrick, Mario, Randy, Val and Robert do a great job...but from there on everything pretty much goes downhill. If you want something done right, you have to go up the levels since quite often it will be screwed up by level 1.

I think their re-positioning as a higher-cost provider has actually caused this company more pain than gain since they have been overtaken by TP/SM and they no longer have any justification for poor workmanship....obviously I have no idea of their internal figures though so that's just assumption on my part...

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Old 03-09-2005, 12:12 PM
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Ha! A fellow Laws on these forums! Nice to meet ya Nick, my name is Joe.

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Old 03-09-2005, 01:07 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, what do you plan on using the dedicated server for?
Well, the primary reason is to host a forum that has grown way too fast. Secondary reasons would include some hosting plans in the future.

Quote:
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One thing to keep in mind, a dedicated server is nothing like a shared server. There is a ton of management involved when you take a step like this, make sure you get some kind of management for your server if you are unexperienced.
I'm aware of the change, but also this is something that I'd like to put under my experience belt. I'm willing to learn the ropes, and who knows, I could probably use the experience someday. :]

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Old 03-09-2005, 01:32 PM
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Best ded. host I know is in Europe:
http://www.1stserv.com/
I can vouch for Mark and his company... top notch! My ns1.dns.hm is there and it had 100% uptime for over a year.

Good US based locations are:
http://www.jaguarpc.com/
I know Greg since long and he + team are great.

and also

http://www.cyberwurx.com/
Had a server with them once and it was reliable as hell!

I read a lot of EV1 recommendations. Well... I dealt with them all the time. First with own servers and then maintaining client servers. One word: HORRIBLE! If you want to regret the day, then go with THEM

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Old 03-09-2005, 01:41 PM
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I appreciate the extra suggestions. ^_^
Looks like the choice is going to be harder than I thought.

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Old 03-09-2005, 04:41 PM
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If you can handle the management, I'd strongly suggest Tailor Made Servers; I consider them semi-managed. They are not the cheapest, but have outstanding support and network. You won't be disappointed!

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Old 03-09-2005, 09:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Steve
one thing, i have a friend with two servers at fastservers and the avrage uptime on them is only about 60% - their network is frankly crap


60%, right. If any of our critical network segments were even a hair beyond the thresholds that our SLA guarantees, we (FastServers) would no longer exist. But that more than likely goes without saying at this point. Check out discussion elsewhere on this forum, and be sure to browse through other communities as well to gather up a more balanced opinion on FS, and our plethora of competitors.

Keep in mind our particular forum community as well:
http://forums.fastservers.net/ .... discussions of uptime/stability are especially frequent within, if any major or even minor hiccups in service are experienced.

Best of luck on your quest to pinpoint a host!

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