02-23-2005, 10:30 AM
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We all know MAC OSX interface is VERY smooth.. For example when you minimaze/maximum window then it make lovely smooth animation.. Some people say MAC is only good for graphic/video developing..
Why Microsoft Windows can't do the same for smooth/sharp graphical interface? So it is not possible on IMB machine?
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02-23-2005, 11:34 AM
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It is possible, but the software simply isn't there for mac like it is for windows. Many people know windows, very few know mac. It's just like debating linux vs. windows, I love using linux on my desktop, but I must use windows for the software out there.
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02-23-2005, 12:10 PM
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Apple puts a lot of money into product design. Therefor they have very pretty products, software and hardware. I use my Mac for everything, I also have a high end pc that is good for playing games every now and then... mostly gathers dust and is a good place to set my coffee 
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02-23-2005, 12:53 PM
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justa, why do you need a lot of software, when Apple actually puts out stuff that's good? 
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02-23-2005, 04:11 PM
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justa, why do you need a lot of software, when Apple actually puts out stuff that's good?
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Apply may put out plenty of good stuff, but when you start working with 3dstudio max, adobe photoshop, dreamweaver, after effects, unlead dvd workshop, etc... you end up on a PC.
Don't get me started about the gaming issues as well...
If apple had what IBM has then they would have a bigger market share than they do.
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02-23-2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by justadollarhostin
Apply may put out plenty of good stuff, but when you start working with 3dstudio max, adobe photoshop, dreamweaver, after effects, unlead dvd workshop, etc... you end up on a PC.
Don't get me started about the gaming issues as well...
If apple had what IBM has then they would have a bigger market share than they do.
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Woah woah woah woah. Hold up one second. Out of those 5 products,3 are available for mac. Hell, 2 of them were STARTED on mac. The rest aren't, but aren't needed due to better alternatives. And by better, I mean REALLY better.
Photoshop - On mac
After Effects- On mac
Dreamweaver - On mac
3ds max- Lightwave, Maya, and Cinema 4D XL are all available on mac, and either of those could kick 3dsmax's arse.
Ulead DVD Workshop - Are you kidding? 3 Words: Final Cut Pro.
So what other programs do you use, besides games.
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02-23-2005, 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by Darktwist
Why Microsoft Windows can't do the same for smooth/sharp graphical interface? So it is not possible on IMB machine?
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I believe the original question is this... He isn't asking what's better, but simply, why can't windows have as good of an interface as Mac OS X?
Don't turn this into another debate...
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02-23-2005, 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by justadollarhostin
Apply may put out plenty of good stuff, but when you start working with 3dstudio max, adobe photoshop, dreamweaver, after effects, unlead dvd workshop, etc... you end up on a PC.
Don't get me started about the gaming issues as well...
If apple had what IBM has then they would have a bigger market share than they do.
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hahahahaha, thanks for that, i haven't had read a post like that for a while, provided me with a few min's of laughter.
Im afraid as Xshare has already proved all of the software is available for MAC OS X or there is a better piece of software available for OS X.
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02-23-2005, 05:09 PM
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... pretty soon I'll be getting a powerbook (hopefully free) and going away from the PC world (i'll still have the PC laptop around). I used to be the head of I.T. for a 3-state firm and now I'm in hosting (linux) and just want a mac again (used to have one long ago).
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02-23-2005, 05:10 PM
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I would guess that we would need an expert from Microsoft to tell us whether or why they can't. It might be a technical compatibility issue. It might be a patent issue. They might have decided that it's a customer receptivity issue. It fits the interface style Mac users are used to, but it might seem like an annoyance to people who are accustomed to the Windows interface.
As for versatility, I don't see the Mac catching up to the PC.
TaxAct, TopoUSA, Encarta, Family Tree Maker, to name a few programs that I use. The PC can be partitioned to include linux distros. Of course I use linux as a supplement. not a substitute to Windows.
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02-23-2005, 06:14 PM
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i think its because windows is built to be used on a wide variety of machines, low-end and high-end, and countless different brands of hardware. mac only builds software to work with their own hardware. not to mention, most people could give a rat's arse about whether their windows animate when maximizing or minimizing (actually, windows has a setting for that. it can be done by checking a box) also, your video card has a lot to do with it. my geforce fx5200 ultra came with lots of nifty features.
the user interface is completely customizable. sure, the default winxp skin is boring, but there's plenty of really sweet skins available. i don't see much of a visual difference between mac and windows operating systems other than the icons. i think windows is quite a bit more tweakable though.
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02-23-2005, 06:32 PM
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i think its because windows is built to be used on a wide variety of machines, low-end and high-end, and countless different brands of hardware. mac only builds software to work with their own hardware.
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This is pretty much it. MS can't expect every machine running XP to have a higher-end graphics card, so it can't be as graphically intense.
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02-23-2005, 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by justadollarhostin
Apply may put out plenty of good stuff, but when you start working with 3dstudio max, adobe photoshop, dreamweaver, after effects, unlead dvd workshop, etc... you end up on a PC.
Don't get me started about the gaming issues as well...
If apple had what IBM has then they would have a bigger market share than they do.
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I have a Apple Box here and in PhotoShop it will render things faster then my DELL XPS.
So your above statment isnt true.
Also, if you look around most of the movie studios use Apple over IBM.
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02-24-2005, 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by Xshare
3ds max- Lightwave, Maya, and Cinema 4D XL are all available on mac, and either of those could kick 3dsmax's arse.
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Not true - each of those use a separate kind of modeling, and some people can only use certain programs - Maya costs about 2x as much as 3d Studio Max as well, Lightwave can't stack up to some of 3D Studio Max's features, and Cinema 4D isn't even worth mentioning against the two industry giants - 3d Studio Max and Maya.
Not to mention the fact that Maya is mainly known for Nurb modeling, and not everyone is capable of that - Maya probably has the biggest learning curve out of the two; 3d Studio Max also has a free version, GMax, while Maya doesn't
Aside from those points - I agree that Macs are nice, but just aren't mainstream; they're the best out there for 2d art, dvd/video creation, etc. - but not for gaming.
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02-24-2005, 04:26 AM
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In all fairness, each company caters to a different market. Both are good; depends on what you need.
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