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[Elberk80]

Guys im as rocky as it could be .. what does bandwidth overselling .. how does it work? .. i dont wanna do it i just want to know how does it work!

[Captian_Spike]

It means you sell more then you have in hopes the people you sell to don't use all of it. Its like having a concert with 3 seats avialable and you sell 4 tickets hoping one person won't show. (maby an extreme example but you get the picture)

[encoderX]

A novel way to explain it u2mike

A more indepth way of explaining bandwidth overselling is available from:
WHReviews > Bandwidth Overselling.

[realvaluehosting]

Very nice u2mike

Overselling (bandwidth/space) means that you can allocated more than badnwdith or space you have been assigned.

[Maxo]

u2mike - Really nice example. Plain and simple.

Elberk80 - It is interesting that you state you are in the hosting industry and you have never heard about that.

[EPAdmin]

Just think of EV1 and there you go. Think of how many servers they have. Now add up the amount of BW on avg. that is allocated to each one.

Now, what would be interesting is if all the servers were to push it all at the same time.

[encoderX]

Originally posted by maxo

Elberk80 - It is interesting that you state you are in the hosting industry and you have never heard about that.

Maybe he's enhancing his knowledge to gain a better understanding on how to increase his profit as a hosting provider with minimal cost.

[Elberk80]

maxo -- no one gets out of his mama's stomech is a rocket scientist and i stated im as rocky as it could be .. and im not shame to ask for information that i dont know


well thanks u2mike .. preciate your time


hehe with this sarcastic way to get answers i guess no one would dare to post a question even if he wanted to start something ..

[Chicken]

Originally posted by u2mike
It means you sell more then you have in hopes the people you sell to don't use all of it. Its like having a concert with 3 seats avialable and you sell 4 tickets hoping one person won't show. (maby an extreme example but you get the picture)

It's not an extreme example, it's just not an entirely accurate one. That scenario fits more with how hotels book rooms and airlines book flights. Hosting is a bit different in that a provider can allocate more bandwidth or transfer if needed, and even add hard drive space. Point is, it's not nearly as fixed as 3 seats at a concert for 4 people, or hotel rooms.

Originally posted by EncoderZ
A more indepth way of explaining bandwidth overselling is available from:
WHReviews > Bandwidth Overselling.

That article is marginally better than u2mike's explanation. Not all of the recommendations are entirely sound ("As long as the servers are powerful (something like dual Xeon) and the customer reviews do not reveal any problems, you should most likely be fine."). Generally there's only a need for one conclusion per page, and if you can get past that much of the poorly written paragraphs, there's a few good tips here and there.

Originally posted by EPAdmin
Now, what would be interesting is if all the servers were to push it all at the same time.

Interesting in the same way as it would be interesting to see a flying monkey throwing flaming bowlingballs. Ain't gonna happen.

[Elberk80]

thanks chicken .. you've put some time into it .. thanks again

[ldcdc]

Not all of the recommendations are entirely sound ("As long as the servers are powerful (something like dual Xeon) and the customer reviews do not reveal any problems, you should most likely be fine.").

Agreed. Off to correct that nonsense and some others. Thank you for the feedback.

[Justin]

Interesting in the same way as it would be interesting to see a flying monkey throwing flaming bowlingballs. Ain't gonna happen.

Gotta agree you are not going to see every single box at ev1 ever push it's full alottment, same goes with the other prominent datacenters. This is simply due to the fact of how many clients have servers but are severely underutilizing these systems. Many get a dedicated simply because they need processing power and their own resources not because they are going to use even remotely close to 1TB of transfer in a month. Just my two cents on it but I should think most people will agree with this statement.

Overselling is what you make of it, if you oversell though simply be cautious of what is extreme and what is reasonable there is a fine line between genius and insanity.

-Justin

[Elberk80]

after al of these comments i think im gonna do it for my clients with low bandwidth usage .. and im gonna over sell 30% only .. you know those companies who wanted a website but no one visit them ..

[concreteman]

This is also a great deal for resellers, they can offer the extra bandwidth to thier customers and won't have to upgrade their accounts until they go over the limit. The end user doesn't know they caused the reseller to upgrade and the reseller can make "extra" money in the meantime. They should however expect to be able to provide anything they oversell and have a plan in case they need to do so. In other words, make sure you have the resources to provide all you claim to offer.