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Old 01-25-2005, 04:20 PM
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Budget hosting - Getting started guide


This is a quick summary of how to find a budget host, followed by more detailed discussion for those who are interested.

This guide is meant for those who:
- Need a modest hosting plan for a site for a nonprofit / small business / personal / etc.
- Have a budget for hosting of about $8 a month or under - perhaps well under.
- Want a free standing hosting plan (not a reseller plan to aggregate several such sites).
- Find a free plan or ISP web space doesn't meet their needs.
- Don't expect lots of extras or handholding.


THE SHORT VERSION:

Well run, reliable hosts can find it worthwhile to offer plans for those with limited needs and budget. Some can make money doing it. Others find that it's a way to bring in new clients whose needs will grow over time.

It's good advice to avoid offers that are too good to be true - you often won't get what you were promised, and neither will the rest of the horde of bargain hunters that overwhelm the host's servers with their sites. But that's not what we're talking about here. You can get a good host on a budget.

First, try to get some sense of the features, space, and bandwidth you'll need. If you can come up with even a rough idea, it will help.

Second, identify some good candidates for hosting. With luck, there will be enough listed in the posts in this thread to save you time in coming up with some candidates.

Third, look for reviews of potential hosts from actual users. As with a restaurant, the quality of a host has a lot to do with the way it's managed. New hosts might or might not be good; and established hosts can go downhill if the management doesn't consistently stay on top of things. Service isn't always perfect, but what separates the good hosts from the bad is how often there are problems, and how the host handles things when something goes wrong.

- Search WHT. Do a Search of the Web Hosting Forum here at WHT, by searching on the host name. Don't search on "All Open Forums" - you'll get too many results that aren't relevant. You might try a couple variations to allow for different ways people spell - with or without spaces between the words in the name, for example.

- Use findmyhosting.com to find hosts and reviews of hosts. Their Advanced Search page lets you specify a lot of options, but often it's best not to narrow it unnecessarily. Just enter your budget and location, and use the "List By Highest Customer Rating" option in the lower right corner. Also, see below for more discussion of findmyhosting.com

- Google the host's name, and variations of it, to see what turns up.

Neither of these approaches will find good information on every host, or has all the info on the host - unfortunately, that site doesn't seem to exist. Many of the hosts mentioned below aren't listed on findmyhosting.com. But these resources should help you narrow the list to current good prospects for hosting.


Some U.S. budget hosts that seem promising so far, based on a January 2005 search, <<< Let's let members follow your guide and decide on their own. >>>


Links

As you might have discovered, most of the web hosting directories on the web are advertising driven - there are no real reviews there. Here are a few places to look for info. And if there are other resource sites that have real info (not ads), let us all know by posting in this thread:

- findmyhosting.com's Advanced Search page

- Web Hosting Reviews - not particularly focused on inexpensive hosting, but a number of useful articles and a list of hosts. The Related Sites page has a number of other useful links and sites as well.

- You can sometimes find a good price on a good host or domain registrar at fatwallet or the Anandtech Hot Deals forums - search for host, hosting, domain, and so on.

If you do find a particular site valuable when choosing a host, you might try to sign up via their links so they get the referral credit.



DISCUSSION

Narrowing the search:

1. User Forum. A forum discussing the host's features and any issues that arise can be very useful. You can often find answers to questions that aren't in the host's help pages, without needing to contact support. It also gives you a sense for the kind of people you're dealing with.

2. A whois search on the domain name of the host might give you a sense for whether they look reliable and established.

3. Money back guarantees. Many people recommend choosing a host with a money back guarantee. Maybe. I'd recommend choosing a host where you won't need the guarantee, if you can! Often it isn't worth chasing, if you turn out to need it.

4. Features. It's a little hard to say precisely which features you'll need for your site, but:

- You can do a nice little site with: Linux hosting, php, mySQL databases (multiple tables or databases), htaccess control, several email boxes, email forwarding, and webmail.
- With that, you can run quite a few things; but if you're new to hosting you may want some preinstalled or auto installed scripts, too.
- Control panel. A poorly designed control panel (such as the one at 1and1) can make it slow and unwieldy to administer a site.
- Subdomains (help.mydomain.net, store.mydomain.net) can be nice to have.
- Multiple domains. If you need to host more than one domain name (mydomain.net, myotherdomain.org), be sure to check if the plan allows that.

You probably don't need (and can't get, on the really inexpensive plans) SSH, root access, or detailed DNS server setup - though if you know what it is you can decide for yourself!

5. Service and support. Look for a reasonable turnaround time (depending on the problem) and basic courtesy (always). And personally, I'd rather have them warn me in adaance about changes and downtime, than worry about how quickly they respond when my site goes down or some new "feature" they installed makes something stop working. Think about what's fair to expect at the price of the plan you're looking at. In any case, don't ask for a lot of handholding - use the forums for that.

6. Does it feel right? This might not work for everyone, but many people get a sense of whether it's a company they want to do business with. Sometimes it's a good feeling, sometimes it's a bad feeling. Don't sign on with anyone who doesn't seem capable and straightforward. Contrary to what's often posted here, hosting is not a commodity business. There is intense competition, but the quality of management makes some firms a better choice than others.


Domain names

Like others, I always register my domain names at somewhere other than my host, even if it costs more. That allows me to very quickly change hosts if there's a problem with the site for an unacceptably long time. Changing hosts can often be done in a matter of hours, if need be - see the Changing hosts with Almost NO Downtime thread.

Look in the Domain Name Discussions forum for comments on domain registrars. As of January 2005, people seem to recommend <<< Let's let members follow your guide and decide on their own. >>>


The basics

For those new to hosting:
- You will get a shared hosting plan, at this budget. Your site will be one of many on the physical server it is hosted on.
- You will have varying degrees of control and features (depending on the plan you choose), but something less than full control.
- Your site may be affected by the usage of other sites on your server.

None of this is likely to be an acute or long term problem, if you choose a good host.

You may be able to host a couple small sites on one hosting plan, if you don't mind administering them through one control panel, and your plan allows multiple domains.

If you have several sites you plan to oversee, you may be better off getting a reseller plan to host them all.


findmyhosting.com

Note that findmyhosting.com does not list every host. In fact, it only lists those hosts who are currently paying it a referral fee for new clients who find a host using findmyhosting.com

Some people will have the knee-jerk reaction that's inherently bad. And, it does have some drawbacks:
- Some good hosts don't like to pay referral fees, or would just rather get clients by word of mouth. They won't be in the findmyhosting.com listings.
- Hosts who get terrible feedback may end their arrangement. All that useful feedback disappears.

But getting a fee if a client finds a host using the site does not completely undermine the fundamental idea of having honest host reviews, as long as they aren't favoring one host over another, and aren't trying to make them all look good. There are clearly some candid reviews at findmyhosting.com. And findmyhosting.com has bills to pay, too - depending on how much the fee is, it's not unreasonable for them to get paid.

As always, you need to read the reviews with a critical eye. But findmyhosting.com is a good supplement to the inevitably anecdotal evidence you often find by turning up a few forum posts here and there about a host.


Why start this thread?

Some of this may seem obvious to the older members, but there's a big gap in what's here at WHT now. Sure, lots of people throw out a recommendation to search the forums - but search on what? And for how long? Similarly, just mentioning findmyhosting.com doesn't really help much. This thread would have saved me several hours when I first started looking.

And for those who can't help but post "Price isn't everything" - there are decent hosts for these needs and budget. Paying more will not necessarily get you a host that does a better job for these needs.


Additions and updates

I don't think the forum will allow me to edit this post, so look for updates below. And of course, look for other constructive comments from WHT members!

Please don't post requests for hosts here, or anecdotal comments - especially comments based on little or no experience with a host. To be reliable, we want to discuss hosts where there are a number of informed reviews.


Last edited by SoftWareRevue; 11-10-2005 at 02:22 PM.
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:31 PM
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I'm sure the article will be useful for those, who are looking for a budget hosting provider. Good work

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Old 01-26-2005, 02:56 AM
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Great article, very informative.

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Old 01-28-2005, 07:33 AM
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Oops - meant to add this... but I guess we can't edit posts at all anymore...

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Just a note on hosts reviews.

Please understand that both good and bad reviews can be very emotionally driven (especially bad ones, I believe). Clients tend to review hosts after an experience with that host and that experience then weighs heavily on the review overall.

It's not always best to read a review and take it at face value. When reading reviews - take a second to understand what the client is saying and imagine how they were feeling when writing that review...

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Old 01-28-2005, 02:22 PM
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Time well spent on a good article

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Old 02-03-2005, 02:39 PM
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i totally agree with devil inside......all reviews tend to be biased and thinking about it for example if its only a small business then time is going to have to be allowed to make their service good for everyone...not just you/ your party

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Old 02-04-2005, 03:06 PM
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All comments and reviews of hosts - positive and negative - need to be looked at with a critical eye. And while they might not be exactly reflective of the truth - that doesn't mean they aren't valuable. In addition, if interpreted right, they seem to be a useful way to judge the frequency of problems and the way a host handles them.

To the extent you can, it's good to assess whether somebody understands hosting; had reasonable expectations; and took a reasonable approach to solving the problem. If so, I can empathize with them getting "emotional" if the host can't fix the problem in a reasonable amount of time.

That is, maybe people get motivated to post reviews when they've had a problem - but most people aren't going to post the first time they have a little problem, either. It's usually a big problem that they've had real trouble getting solved.

Also, there are no doubt some unreliable positive comments, too - people that haven't been with a host long enough to tell, and people that are not completely independent of the hosts. So don't believe all the good reviews, either!


On a separate note, I don't know which of the sites or hosts Devil Inside - "Thanks for mentioning us!" - might be connected to.

For the record, I have no connection to any of them, other than having been a customer of one (who I might use again) and recently become a customer of two others - but it's too soon to evaluate them.

Thanks for the nice comments!

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Old 02-05-2005, 10:05 PM
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very well written guidelines. Thanks for sharing with us. Yes, customers nowadays are looking for quality, speedy tech support at affordable price.

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Old 02-21-2005, 09:32 PM
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that gives me alot of ideas to improve services on my own hosting business, thank you

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Old 02-22-2005, 01:44 AM
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cool article way to go bro

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Old 02-22-2005, 04:20 PM
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Thanks for this thread. I'm deciding between Total Choice and Site5.

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Old 02-23-2005, 01:00 AM
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AGAIN its a great article .. i wonder if i can use it in my community service section .. andaaaaa i know a very good host provider in kuwait for ME region .. they are KUWAITNET.NET .. they are realy relible yet lill bit expensive

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Old 05-11-2005, 10:11 PM
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Great article, very informative

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Old 05-15-2005, 03:08 PM
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wow thats quite a detailed guide for anyone who needs that information. i'd like to thank you for taking the time to write it all out. i'll surely refer anyone to this thread if they are looking for similar information

-Ian

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Excellent is the word.

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