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    Inergen vs. Water in Server Room?

    I work for a large company that has dedicated server rooms for all of our servers + our PBX.

    At our building we have inergen as the fire retardant for our server room, but I was just talking to another Facility Manager who said she was told (by who???) that inergen causes as much damage to servers as water does, so on this advice she was putting sprinkler systems into all her server rooms in new building...

    Does anyone have any experience with this? Either the water or the inergen?

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    I'm no expert but I don't think you'd want to use water in an area where there is the potential for electrical fire.

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    I dont agree with that, just imagine water in a server... men.. a must see situation (but not my servers)

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    Thanks... my thoughts exactly... I can't imagine mixing water & servers!

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    You wonder if its possible to make a server room with no oxygen..then fire cant even start..lol

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    Originally posted by camers
    You wonder if its possible to make a server room with no oxygen..then fire cant even start..lol
    Sure, then nobody could work.. Briillliant idea.
    I'm sorry, but our last oxygen mask was just used, and the guy STILL hasn't come out of the server room yet

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    haha.. Im sure theres a way round it. Im thinking a masisve generator that sucks it all out some how and sorts the whole ion particals out etc etc

    be pretty sweet... we'll see datacenters in 10 years time haha

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    LOL

    Datacenter :"Sorry we have some problem with our MGTSIAOSH (massive generator that sucks it all out some how). It went crazy and sucked the technician that was going to reboot your server"


    And in the "Datacenter" section of thousands of webhosts, you are going to see in the future: Plasma Generator Power, UPS backups, MGTSIAOSH,.



    I cant stop laughing.... hahahahahahahha

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    I'll check to see if the MGTSIAOSH is in the 2005 budget

    (and the special masks that will have to be implemented to keep everyone's eyes from getting sucked out of their heads while working in there) who's gonna tell my telephony guy???


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    heh amusing..thanks guys :p

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    You want some sort of gas suppression system.

    If you do that though, you most likely need oxygen masks placed at regular intervals on the DC floor incase some of your employees get caught when the system goes off.

    Might be something to look at, anyways...

    But water and electricity == bad
    Dan Sheppard ~ Freelance whatever

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    Take a look as something that the company I work for just came out with. It is pretty cool stuff. We submerged a powered up laptop and cell phone in it and it kept working. Here are some links.

    3M Novec 1230 Fire Protection Fluid.

    http://cms.3m.com/cms/US/en/2-68/iclcrFR/view.jhtml

    http://wcco.com/siteSearch/local_story_350105453.html

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    Thanks for the links & info. We literally just found out Wednesday that we had server rooms being designed w/ water sprinklers... and want to make sure we put an end to that - quickly


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    Ben Lenard, MS, MBA
    TechMinds 4 Hire, Inc - (866) 214-1285 x 2001
    http://www.tm4h.com

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    Where some of our servers are colocated in a Time Warner building, it uses FM-200.

    http://www.reliablefire.com/fm200/fm200.html
    http://www.e1.greatlakes.com/fm200/jsp/index.jsp

    It's not deadly to humans, but it certainly isn't good. Then again you probably shouldn't be in the datacenter when it's on fire.
    I wish all my traffic went through AS174.

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