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Thread: CentOS 3.1 v.s 3.3
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11-26-2004, 10:05 PM #1Web Hosting Guru
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CentOS 3.1 v.s 3.3
Hello,
I am going to trust installing CentOS in my server, since they say that it is just as RHE.
I am thinking to install 3,1 or 3.3
they have said to me that 3,3 are very new and can have problems and that 3,1 are more stable
that you think?
or better still, than differences exactly exist between the 2 versions?
Thanks!
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11-26-2004, 10:09 PM #2Aspiring Evangelist
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I didn't hear any trouble with 3.3 compare to 3.1
Anyway if you do update 3.1 converted to 3.3 unless you instruct not to.
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11-26-2004, 10:46 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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I just installed 3.3 on a test server today. Havn't done much with it but havn't had any problems yet either. So far have apache, mysql, and DNS close to being configured. Looks and feels just like RH.
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11-27-2004, 12:40 AM #4Retired Moderator
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Have a DirectAdmin machine with all the fixings running 3.3 and haven't had a single problem yet.
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11-27-2004, 12:58 AM #5Web Hosting Evangelist
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3.3 is badly outdated (almost hopeless for upgrading).
3.1 is seriously beyond hope for upgrading.
3.3 is pretty stable. 3.1 is just outdated junk. Really, I'd just go with something like Debian or Fedora Core 3. CentOS is just pure junk.Mark Lu
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11-27-2004, 01:00 AM #6Retired Moderator
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If you want bleading edge, go with Fedora.
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11-27-2004, 02:07 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by excelblue
3.3 is badly outdated (almost hopeless for upgrading).
3.1 is seriously beyond hope for upgrading.
3.3 is pretty stable. 3.1 is just outdated junk. Really, I'd just go with something like Debian or Fedora Core 3. CentOS is just pure junk.
Being an enterprise OS, its a given that redhat would use their old practice of patching older, but known working programs against exploits and vulnerabilities. They also tend to incorperate new features with some of the products they release.
CentOS has been nothing but stable on our production boxes, and we're very happy with our decision to use it.
And to the thread starter:
We've been using 3.3 with no problems at all. The release is the = of RHEL3 update3 ( hence the 3.3 ).
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11-27-2004, 02:12 AM #8Retired Moderator
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CentOS 3.3 is no more out of date than the current version of RHEL =0)
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11-27-2004, 10:32 AM #9Web Hosting Guru
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mmmmmmm
every day you more to me confuse, seems that you are crazy... :-)
to read post of days ago.... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=338814 everything say "CENTOS IS BEST!!!!) now they say that it is old scrap iron and, are crazy?
:-S
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11-27-2004, 12:04 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Doble
mmmmmmm
every day you more to me confuse, seems that you are crazy... :-)
to read post of days ago.... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=338814 everything say "CENTOS IS BEST!!!!) now they say that it is old scrap iron and, are crazy?
:-S
since you don't have any experience on any version of CentOS or RHEL yet, start with the proven 3.1 on the 23 servers to get them up and running, then graduately experimenting with maybe couple of servers with 3.3, then you can make a wiser decision later.
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11-27-2004, 07:55 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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I think there are a lot of false statements being thrown around here, you guys don't care to get the facts before you start spewing streams of untruths and mis-information.
CentOS 3.3 is merely a mass update of packages. You don't need to re-load your OS, its just a few RPM's that need to be upgraded, and its as simple as typing "yum update" from shell prompt.
The OS is NOT old, its as new as it gets. Errata updates are released regularly ( usually a few hours after their source is released from Redhat )
Also, I should mention, that CentOS has recently hit #1 out of the list of "RHEL rebuilds" at DistroWatch.com: http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
There's also a somewhat decent article about the flavour here:
http://distrocenter.linux.com/distro....shtml?tid=127
RHEL3 update4 is in beta testing, which means you should be seeing CentOS 3.4 available early next year.
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11-27-2004, 09:25 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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You don't need to re-load your OS, its just a few RPM's that need to be upgraded, and its as simple as typing "yum update" from shell prompt.
since we know jsut about everything runs stable under 3.1, it seems better to load 3.1 first, then graduately upgrade them to 3.3 overtime by using 'yum'.
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11-27-2004, 09:29 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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All he would have to do would be to install an older kernel from U2 or previous. I don't see how 3.3 would cause any problems really, but hey if paranoid, try a machine with 3.1. He will eventually need to upgrade ( if he wants his system kept up to date ). Of course before deciding on an OS, its always a good idea to make sure your specific hardware is supported.
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11-27-2004, 11:26 PM #14Retired Moderator
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We have been using 3.3 on over quite a number production servers with no issues. It's quite stable. Generally when you go with Centos, you are basically trusting Redhat in their code quality and due diligence done. So I would say you are pretty ok if you go with 3.3.
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11-28-2004, 10:53 AM #15Web Hosting Guru
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ok.. I do not know that to do. ..
If I install CentOS 3,1 and I make a ' yum update ', will be just like a CentOS 3.3?
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11-28-2004, 11:40 AM #16Web Hosting Guru
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Yeah, I've been using centos 3.3 on a few boxes (running CPanel and Plesk) and it's been rock solid. Don't worry about it
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11-28-2004, 09:21 PM #17Web Hosting Guru
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nowhere it indicates exactly the EXACT differences between the 2 versions? nor so at least in site official?
that strange :-S
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11-28-2004, 10:09 PM #18Web Hosting Master
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Doble,
CentOS 3.1 is the equivilent to RHEL 3 Update 1.
Release notes: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/e...U1-x86-en.html
CentOS 3.3 is the equivilent of RHEL 3 Update 3
Release notes:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/e...U3-x86-en.html
CentOS 3.2 ( rhel3 update 2 ) was never released as ISO as there were some issues with anaconda and what not. The packages however were released as regular errata.
If you are jumping into the CentOS bandwagon, its a given that you should at least have a basic understanding of how the mother OS works. Those using CentOS include small and large companies that don't require the extra support and hand holding that RHEL provides ( with a price ). If you are not comfortable with the product ( all the info you need on RHEL is available from the redhat web site and its all the same for CentOS ) then you might want to look into a more viable solution for your business.